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Need information about Epoch Times (Original Post) tiredtoo Apr 2020 OP
Fallon Gong Cary Apr 2020 #1
Rachel did a segment on them a while ago, Sogo Apr 2020 #17
Its a RW nutso conspiracies type of website -- I looked into it a few months ago as a result of progree Apr 2020 #2
All I know is they were started by members of Fulan Gong. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #3
I saw their ads a week or so ago morillon Apr 2020 #4
I've been seeing stuff from them on FB from a couple RW friends for some time. brewens Apr 2020 #5
Facebook banned their ads last year, so they moved to YouTube instead. subterranean Apr 2020 #10
That would explain it. These guys put up about every crackpot site thing you can name. brewens Apr 2020 #12
Thank you all for the replies. EOM tiredtoo Apr 2020 #6
Here's the Media Bias Fact Check. pnwmom Apr 2020 #7
They are the new Moonies. Using media to propagandize blm Apr 2020 #8
They are Falun Gong which is banned in China People in the US get sucked in because Americans lunasun Apr 2020 #9
They put their ads with YouTube in front of every anti-Trump ad... kentuck Apr 2020 #11
They are the biggest spender of pro trump ads (excepting the actual trump campaign ) lunasun Apr 2020 #13
They're hard to ignore on youtube right now Rstrstx Apr 2020 #14
They had a 2 1/2 minute ad in front of the great ad with Obama... kentuck Apr 2020 #19
Here is what google says. SamBob Apr 2020 #15
I received a free copy of their newspaper a few days ago. Tracer Apr 2020 #20
A total RW shit show run by Falun Gong SiliconValley_Dem Apr 2020 #16
Their China related content is worth skimming, everything else is crap Amishman Apr 2020 #18
RW conspiracy nuts Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #21
I see them every time I go on YouTube. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #22
"Facebook took down more than 600 accounts connected to the Epoch Times" Armando Joe Apr 2020 #23

Cary

(11,746 posts)
1. Fallon Gong
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:12 PM
Apr 2020

They are pro Orange Hitler because they think he has challenged the communist regime in China.

Looks like a cult to me.

Sogo

(4,986 posts)
17. Rachel did a segment on them a while ago,
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:42 AM
Apr 2020

I don’t remember how long, but what you say is pretty much it in a nutshell. Several of the posts that follow elaborate on many of the points Rachel covered. They’re trying to become, or at least make themselves look like, a recognized mainstream news source, according to Rachel....

progree

(10,904 posts)
2. Its a RW nutso conspiracies type of website -- I looked into it a few months ago as a result of
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:13 PM
Apr 2020

watching Youtube and and seeing some of their ads.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
3. All I know is they were started by members of Fulan Gong.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:13 PM
Apr 2020

Not sure how legit they are. I see them advertising on YouTube so I did some research.

Here is their wiki page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

morillon

(1,185 posts)
4. I saw their ads a week or so ago
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:14 PM
Apr 2020

I think it was in the middle of a news video on YouTube.

They're far right Trump supporters. Wikipedia says they're the second-largest pro-Trump ad purchaser in the world.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
5. I've been seeing stuff from them on FB from a couple RW friends for some time.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:15 PM
Apr 2020

They must not be all that great though. I'd see more from them if they were I'd think.

brewens

(13,582 posts)
12. That would explain it. These guys put up about every crackpot site thing you can name.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

I keep hearing about them and even see some ad on Youtube about their being attacked by Communist Chinese. So I was wondering if they just weren't yanking their chains or my RW buddies were slacking.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
7. Here's the Media Bias Fact Check.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:18 PM
Apr 2020
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times borderline Questionable and Right Biased based on editorial positions that consistently favor the right. We also rate them factually Mixed due to the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of pro-Trump propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as failed fact checks.

And here's a piece from the NYTimes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/technology/epoch-times-youtube.html

The Epoch Times is one of the most mysterious fixtures of the pro-Trump media universe. It was started 20 years ago as a print newspaper by practitioners of Falun Gong, the persecuted Chinese spiritual practice. In recent years, the paper has made inroads into top Republican circles. Mr. Trump and his advisers have shared Epoch Times articles on their social media accounts, and last year, Lara Trump, the president’s daughter-in-law, sat for an interview with an Epoch Times editor. Representative Paul Gosar, a Republican from Arizona, called it “our favorite paper.”

The outlet’s profile was initially raised by a spending spree on Facebook — where it paid more than $1 million to promote its content. But in August, Facebook caught The Epoch Times trying to evade its advertising transparency rules and barred it from taking out more ads.

Rather than retreating, the publication simply shifted to a different platform — YouTube — and continued its advertising blitz there.

The shifting tactics of partisan publishers pose a challenge to tech platforms in the lead-up to the 2020 election. Despite their efforts to limit the spread of misinformation, the platforms remain a powerful megaphone for publishers like The Epoch Times, which has used conspiracy theories and dubious growth tactics to expand its audience.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. They are Falun Gong which is banned in China People in the US get sucked in because Americans
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 10:47 PM
Apr 2020

support religious freedom rights and view Falun Gong as a victim of communist China but they are a big cult that was banned there and Epoch Times spends the most money than any other group on pro trump ads for years now
But they also have their conservative propaganda ads that are full of ct and just creepy
Facebook has banned them after a long time of taking their $d$ . fB ignored them and allowed their falsehoods for a longtime for the big cash
so now youtube is profiting off their big bombardment of trump and conservative creep ads . More cash for propaganda
Report to youtube if you can -false info

I think this is the link
Also you really see by FB and now youtube google how $$$ is looked at more than truth with the medias hard control and in someways we have propaganda issues of own in the US for cash

Also people complaining about China banning them should notice that fb finally had to banthem
its not about the kind of religious freedom that Americans want to support but you will see more ads now because of election
Link
https://support.google.com/youtube/thread/16100168?hl=en

Good reply at link

user1255666585744564651351832
11/14/19

I get these before almost ever video I watch, and I'm thankful to some extent, because now I realize how bullshit Google and Youtube are. This is blatant propaganda--black and white. This ad would not be allowed on television. Even Facebook banned these ads... The fact that Google doesn't see themselves as having any responsibility for the information they get paid to spread is absolutely disgusting. You are disrupting Democracy for cash, and you are gross.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
14. They're hard to ignore on youtube right now
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 11:52 PM
Apr 2020

There are certain channels that they like to advertise on. I like to watch Peak Prosperity's daily Covid videos and the Epoch Times must have a commercial on there every day. Worse, if you make the mistake of even start watching one of the Epoch Time's videos youtube's algorithm will start recommending a bunch videos very hostile to the Chinese government.

I'd avoid the temptation to click on them, I believe one of their commercials deals with Barr and the people behind the Russia investigation. Didn't make it through the entire commercial but it was pretty evident where they were headed (right wing crap).



kentuck

(111,089 posts)
19. They had a 2 1/2 minute ad in front of the great ad with Obama...
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 06:10 AM
Apr 2020

Many people may have watched their ad instead of Obama.

SamBob

(61 posts)
15. Here is what google says.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:32 AM
Apr 2020

The Epoch Times is a multi-language newspaper. It was founded in 2000 by John Tang and a group of Chinese Americans associated with the Falun Gong spiritual movement. Wikipedia
Circulation: 1,314,375 (2012, unaudited)
First issue date: 2000
Publisher: Epoch Media Group
Owner(s): Epoch Media Group
Founder(s): John Tang
Political alignment: Conservatism, anti-communism, anti-Socialism, Anti-Chinese sentiment, Right-wing populism
People also search for: Junge Freiheit, Die Welt, Bild, MORE

Sounds horrible.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
20. I received a free copy of their newspaper a few days ago.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:45 AM
Apr 2020

I glanced through it, immediately saw it saw propaganda, and tossed it into the trash.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
18. Their China related content is worth skimming, everything else is crap
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 06:07 AM
Apr 2020

They hate China and do put out some interesting stories on topics the Chinese government would rather suppress.

Everything else is RW crap

 

Armando Joe

(11 posts)
23. "Facebook took down more than 600 accounts connected to the Epoch Times"
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:21 AM
Apr 2020

A right-wing outfit:


On December 20, 2019 it was reported that Facebook took down more than 600 accounts connected to the Epoch Times. According to an NBC News report “The network was called ‘The BL’ and was run by Vietnamese users posing as Americans, using fake photos generated by algorithms to simulate real identities. The Epoch Media group, which pushes a variety of pro-Trump conspiracy theories, spent $9.5 million on ads to spread content through the now-suspended pages and groups.”

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/
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