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Very interesting -
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IN THE EARLY 1980s it was decided by whom, and for what ultimate purpose, we cant say for sure that Donald John Trump would build a casino complex in Atlantic City, New Jersey, probably the most mobbed-up municipality in the state. Dealing with the mafia might have dissuaded some developers from pursuing a Boardwalk Empire, but not Trump. He was uniquely suited to forge ahead.
Donalds father, the Queens real estate developer Fred Trump, had worked closely with Genovese-associated and -owned construction entities since building the Shore Haven development in 1947, when Donald was still in diapers (the first time around). Fred was an early mob adopter, the underworld equivalent of an investor who bought shares of Coca-Cola stock in 1919. The timelines is important to remember here.
Organized crime did not exist in any meaningful way in the United States until Prohibition. Born in 1905, Fred Trump was just two years younger than Meyer Lansky, the gangster who more or less invented money laundering. Thus, Donald Trump is second generation mobbed-up.
When Donald first ventured from Queens to the pizzazzier borough of Manhattan in the seventies, he entered into a joint business deal with Big Paul Castellano, head of the Gambino syndicate, and Anthony Fat Tony Salerno, of the Genovese family he knew well through his father and their mutual lawyer Roy Cohn.
This piece was written under the expert guidance of Lincolns Bible. If you dont already do so, please follow her on Twitter, and check out her own mafiya reporting at Citjourno.
I encourage everyone to read the State of New Jersey Department of Gaming Enforcement investigation report on the allegations against Donald John Trump in the Wayne Barrett book Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
The late Bob Levinson was the FBIs best Russian mob fighter. His Ivankov testimony is also essential reading.
Greg Olear, Substack
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,588 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)This looks rather important to me, so bookmarking.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)This should get around, for sure.
Appreciate it. Good find. I knew about Trump as a mobster, but the details in these are remarkable.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)UTUSN
(70,683 posts)Faux pas
(14,667 posts)unblock
(52,196 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)The Facebook link is still there.
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)BY JEFF STEIN ON 01/10/19 AT 7:10 AM EST
... by the time he was 30, the future president was on the FBI's radar as someone the Mafia might turn to in a pinch. And by the time he was 70, with a business trajectory studded with mobsters, it should've come as no surprise that he was paying hush money to women, allegedly offering a secret hotel deal to Vladimir Putin, calling his longtime former lawyer Michael Cohen a "rat" or denouncing prosecutors for pressuring his associates to "flip" ...
Trump's descent into the gangland may have begun with Roy Cohn, the ruthless lawyer whom Trump hired to help navigate the bare-knuckle New York real estate business. Long notorious for helping Senator Joseph McCarthy unleash the 1950s "red scare" that ruined the careers of scores of Hollywood figures, federal workers and journalists, Cohn in the 1970s represented leaders of the Vito Genovese crime family during a federal racketeering investigation ...
Some of Cohn's Mafia clients controlled New York's construction unions, whose blessings Trump needed to complete his projects. So he "hired mobbed-up firms to erect Trump Tower and his Trump Plaza apartment building in Manhattan, including buying ostensibly overpriced concrete from a company controlled by Mafia chieftains Anthony 'Fat Tony' Salerno and Paul Castellano," Pulitzer Prize winner David Cay Johnston wrote in Politico in 2016. Village Voice investigative reporter Wayne Barrett, who chronicled Trump's deals in books and articles through the years, wrote that Trump probably met Fat Tony through Cohn. "This came at a time when other developers in New York were pleading with the FBI to free them of mob control of the concrete business," Johnston wrote ...
"New York was so totally corrupt and so controlled by the mob in the '80s that in order to be a successful businessman, you had to have some way to work that world," former FBI agent Walt Stowe, who grew close to Trump through the years and says he never saw the developer do anything illegal, told The Washington Post's Robert O'Harrow Jr. in 2016. But by 1988, Trump was feeling so comfortable associating with Mafiosi that he did his first name-licensing deal with a luxury limo rental company owned by John Staluppi, a made member of the Colombo crime family, according to William Bastone, founding editor of The Smoking Gun website. And by that time, Trump was deep into his quest for an Atlantic City fortune ...
https://www.newsweek.com/2019/01/18/donald-trump-mafia-connections-decades-later-linked-mob-1285771.html
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)it was to save himself from prosecution (which does explain why he wasn't prosecuted long before he ran for president).
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Thats about as mobbed up as one can get.
struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)David Von Drehle
August 10, 2018 at 6:32 p.m. EDT
... Trumps trail was blazed through one business after another notorious for corruption by organized crime.
New York construction, for starters. In 1988, Vincent the Fish Cafaro of the Genovese crime family testified before a U.S. Senate committee concerning the Mafias control of building projects in New York. Construction unions and concrete contractors were deeply dirty, Cafaro confirmed, and four of the citys five crime families worked cooperatively to keep it that way ...
This would not have been news to Trump, whose early political mentor and personal lawyer was Roy Cohn, consigliere to such dons as Fat Tony Salerno and Carmine Galante. After Cohn guided the brash young developer through the gutters of city politics to win permits for Trump Plaza and Trump Tower, it happened that Trump elected to build primarily with concrete rather than steel. He bought the mud at inflated prices from S&A Concrete, co-owned by Cohns client Salerno and Paul Castellano, boss of the Gambino family ...
Trump moved next into the New Jersey casino business, which was every bit as clean as it sounds. State officials merely shrugged when Trump bought a piece of land from associates of Philadelphia mob boss Little Nicky Scarfo for roughly $500,000 more than it was worth. However, this and other ties persuaded police in Australia to block Trumps bid to build a casino in Sydney in 1987, citing Trumps Mafia connections ...
... In 2013, federal prosecutors indicted Russian mob boss Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov and 33 others on charges related to a gambling ring operating from two Trump Tower condos that allegedly laundered more than $100 million. A few months later, the same Mr. Tokhtakhounov, a fugitive from U.S. justice, was seen on the red carpet at Trumps Miss Universe pageant in Moscow ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/are-trumps-mob-connections-a-coincidence-fuhgeddaboudit/2018/08/10/24b62e2c-9cad-11e8-843b-36e177f3081c_story.html
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)By ASSOCIATED PRESS
MARCH 18, 20199:15 PM
The man charged with killing the reputed boss of the Gambino crime family wrote pro-Donald Trump slogans on his hand and flashed them to journalists before a court hearing Monday.
Anthony Comello, 24, was arrested Saturday in New Jersey in the death of Francesco Franky Boy Cali last week in front of his Staten Island, N.Y., home.
While waiting for a court hearing to begin in Toms River, N.J., in which he agreed to be extradited to New York, Comello held up his left hand.
On it were scrawled pro-Trump slogans including MAGA Forever, an abbreviation of Trumps campaign slogan Make America Great Again. It also read United We Stand MAGA and Patriots In Charge. In the center of his palm he had drawn a large circle. It was not immediately clear why he had done so ...
https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-gambino-crime-boss-20190318-story.html
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)Well, duh.
GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,339 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)almost produces a "duh" reaction, it makes so much sense.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)BComplex
(8,036 posts)Trump stinks like a skunk, whether he ever gets caught at it and has to do time, or not. He's definitely a crook.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)or contacts with this type of organization? Somebody must know somebody else who has a Goodfella they can call up and ask for a favor and get rid of the fucking moron to save the country. Aren't there any civic minded, patriotic Goodfellas who would like to do the US a big favor? If it is a money issue, I will contribute a few bucks and know several others willing to do the same (I have mentioned this in the past and it is met with an enthusiastic response from the Dems I know and love).
niyad
(113,259 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)murielm99
(30,733 posts)and seems credible.
I would recommend also looking at the works of Malcom Nance, who thinks Trump is a Russian agent. Look into: The Plot to Betray America, The Plot to Hack America and The Plot to Destroy America.
Trump is stupid and dull, but thinks he has the smarts to run with the big, bad boys. He gets used every time.
niyad
(113,259 posts)Described as exactly what is looked for-rich, gullible, easily manipulated. Cannot remember the title, but it was a specific term in spycraft about this kind of person.
klook
(12,154 posts)More: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910
Johnston doesn't say anything about Trump supposedly being an informant, just that he's up to his eyeballs in mob ties.
niyad
(113,259 posts)niyad
(113,259 posts)ole donnie bodybags threw some time around the election??
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)He really appears to be a big nobody in mobville, but hey, who knows
But who could ever forget his appearance at that swanky affair??!?
niyad
(113,259 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)and the Citjourno link: http://www.citjourno.org/
LB is an immaculate researcher...if you just start scrolling back in her timeline (plus Citjourno) youll get quite an education on this pathetic scumbuckets mobbed up, trashy, grotesque past
UTUSN
(70,683 posts)Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)
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https://gregolear.substack.com/p/bloody-mob-sht-an-interview-with
We talk Trump, Mogilevich, Epstein, Giuliani, Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and more.
Greg Olear
.... LB (Lincoln's Bible) : ... Fred, ... all (his construction projects) were done with known mafia partners, in Genovese-controlled territory, and eventually with a fully Genovese-owned construction company (HRH Construction). ....
... Remember donalds quote, Even my father, he said, you dont want to go to Manhattan. Thats not our territory? Thats because Manhattan, for construction, was Gambino territory. They controlled the concrete and unions. And Fred was a very loyal, shrewd front for the Genovese. To get his idiot, greedy kid into Manhattan, Fred and Roy Cohn had to get those two mob bosses to agree on a joint venture. ....
GO (Greg OLEAR) : Rudy Giuliani, whose father was a lesser mobster, built his reputation prosecuting Italian mobsters. In the process, he made it easier for the Russians to move in. ... ....
LB: Heres the thing and its NYC mob gossip, but I trust the source. Rudy and donald hate each other. Capital H hate. They both have dirt on one another. And, for both, its as bad as it gets. Cocaine, corruption, and bloody mob shit. So theyre stuck together. Dont look for one to turn on the other. Unless drugs/alcohol/dementia takes over, and they burn each other down as they internally crumble. ....
GO: ... We know he (Jeffrey EPSTEIN) was associated with the Russian mafiya, through his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert, was business partners with Semion Mogilevich, head of the Vor. ...
LB: Epstein laundered money for global arms dealers. ... ....
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http://www.citjourno.org/mission
POKE THE BEAR
.... ... There is a man who controls our President. And his name is not Vladimir Putin. ....
... the most brilliant, dangerous, powerful, criminal mastermind the world has ever seen. This is not hyperbole. This is SEMION MOGILEVICH. ....
... Mogilevich, the "Boss of Bosses," is also known in Russia and to international intelligence agencies as Don Semyon, The Brainy Don. ....
... The Soviet Union collapsed. In the vacuum of leadership of policy of governmental order, a few hungry souls made a mad grab for state resources. They were the original seven oligarchs, called The Magnificient Seven. And they were all bankers. One of these first seven bankers, Mikhail Fridman the founder of ALFABANK, is Semion Mogilevichs partner. ... ....
... Putin was used to help execute Semions strategy for turning Russia into a Mafiya State. ... ....
... SEMION TRADES IN NUCLEAR MATERIAL AND ARMS WITH IRAN ... ....
... This aspect of Semions criminal enterprise is one thing (of many) the Iran Deal sought to eliminate. ... ....
... the Russian Mafiyas infiltration of America. ... the Russian take-over of Americas mafia crime families, the Five Families, ... ....
... the mobster Vyacheslov Ivankov set him off on Semions trail. Ivankov was Semions lieutenant, sent to America to set up operations. If you recognize his name, its because Ivankov is the mobster who landed in a condo in Trump Tower, hid out regularly at Trump Taj Mahal, and was eventually caught by the FBIs organized crime unit. ... ....
... Mogilevichs crime syndicate is also THE case that puts the history of Donald Trumps business partnerships into context. It explains why the #TrumpRussia investigation ... shifted from counter-intelligence to CRIMINAL. ...
It also answers what lurks beneath Trumps flailing tweets, firing of Comey, and strategic undermining of the integrity of our independent press. ... ....
... The equation for finding the perfect mark is simple: 1) identify a businessman who has what you need like a vehicle to wash your blood money, + 2) find their weak spot, and + 3) squeeze. ....
n the United States, there was one businessman at the top of Don Semyons list. One who was the easiest mark and could reap the greatest return. One who was sheltering Mogilevich's Men. One who was already in business with the American mafia, when "the" RUSSIAN MOB rolled over them all. ....
And thanks to Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and the Five Families of American mafia, the United States already had a perfect front for Mogilevich to take. A man a brand, that could wash the devils blood money clean. ....
... Semion Mogilevich took over American mafias territory, he took Donald Trump with it. ....
... Semion Mogilevich took over his second brand: TRUMP ENTERPRISES. ....
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https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1150239448649866&id=100009914652603
.... A confidential informant, or CI, is a mole run by law enforcement within a criminal enterprise. Not a rat, whose treachery is well known to his comrades, but a craftier, more duplicitous breed of rodent. Crimes committed by the CI are overlooked, or allowed to continue unabated, in exchange for good intelligencetreasure, as Control calls it in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. ....
The only way to know for sure if Donald John Trump is a Confidential Informant is if he admits it himself (unlikely), or if law enforcement comes forward (illegal). But the circumstantial evidence is compelling. The pattern is: 1) Trump deals with mobsters as usual; 2) Law enforcement begins investigating Trump; 3) Mobsters suddenly get busted, while 4) investigation into Trump is scuttled. This happened three times that we know about. Im not counting the first known instance of Trump providing information to prosecutors, concerning Cody and concrete, in the late 70s: ... ....
... 1995? Failing tremendously. That was the year when he declared a loss of an unfathomable $916 million on his tax returns. It was also at this time that Trump Tower became a sort of Moscow on Fifth Avenue, with any number of Russian mobsters scooping up apartmentsan arrangement that began in 1984, when the Russian mobster David Bogatin purchased five condos for $6 million. Trump Tower was one of just two buildings in all of New York City that allowed units to be purchased by shell companies. Why did Trump, virtually alone among New Yorkers, allow these fishy deals?
As the indefatigable Craig Unger writes in the Washington Post, the shady Bogatin deal began a 35-year relationship between Trump and Russian organized crime. Mind you, this was a period during which the disintegration of the Soviet Union had opened a fire-hose-like torrent of hundreds of billions of dollars in flight capital from oligarchs, wealthy apparatchiks and mobsters in Russia and its satellites. And who better to launder so much money for the Russians than Trump selling them multimillion-dollar condos at top dollar, with little or no apparent scrutiny of who was buying them. ....
... what made Trumps attacks on Mueller so ironic. He impugned the former FBI director as corrupt, while depending on his incorruptibility to not reveal his (alleged) CI status. ....
Notes
This piece was written under the expert guidance of Lincolns Bible. If you dont already do so, please follow her on Twitter, and check out her own mafiya reporting at Citjourno.
I encourage everyone to read the State of New Jersey Department of Gaming Enforcement investigation report on the allegations against Donald John Trump in the Wayne Barrett book Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
The late Bob Levinson was the FBIs best Russian mob fighter. His Ivankov testimony is also essential reading.
Greg Olear, Substack
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