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GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:09 PM Apr 2020

Found a piece on Trump and his mob links with the premise that he might be a CI.

Very interesting -

Tracy Keenan Wynn
3 hrs ·
IN THE EARLY 1980s it was decided — by whom, and for what ultimate purpose, we can’t say for sure — that Donald John Trump would build a casino complex in Atlantic City, New Jersey, probably the most mobbed-up municipality in the state. Dealing with the mafia might have dissuaded some developers from pursuing a Boardwalk Empire, but not Trump. He was uniquely suited to forge ahead.

Donald’s father, the Queens real estate developer Fred Trump, had worked closely with Genovese-associated and -owned construction entities since building the Shore Haven development in 1947, when Donald was still in diapers (the first time around). Fred was an early mob adopter, the underworld equivalent of an investor who bought shares of Coca-Cola stock in 1919. The timelines is important to remember here.

Organized crime did not exist in any meaningful way in the United States until Prohibition. Born in 1905, Fred Trump was just two years younger than Meyer Lansky, the gangster who more or less invented money laundering. Thus, Donald Trump is second generation mobbed-up.

When Donald first ventured from Queens to the pizzazzier borough of Manhattan in the seventies, he entered into a joint business deal with “Big” Paul Castellano, head of the Gambino syndicate, and Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno, of the Genovese family he knew well through his father and their mutual lawyer Roy Cohn.



Notes:

This piece was written under the expert guidance of Lincoln’s Bible. If you don’t already do so, please follow her on Twitter, and check out her own mafiya reporting at Citjourno.

I encourage everyone to read the State of New Jersey Department of Gaming Enforcement investigation report on the allegations against Donald John Trump in the Wayne Barrett book Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
The late Bob Levinson was the FBI’s best Russian mob fighter. His Ivankov testimony is also essential reading.

— Greg Olear, Substack


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Found a piece on Trump and his mob links with the premise that he might be a CI. (Original Post) GoneOffShore Apr 2020 OP
Bookmarking for reading at leisure. What I did see is dynamite. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2020 #1
Do you have a link to it? Newest Reality Apr 2020 #2
Here are a couple of links - The FB one led to the others. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #4
Thank you. Newest Reality Apr 2020 #8
Thanks! Your OP has me intrigued! :) BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2020 #20
K&R for the topic and the links. Now is not the time for this thread to sink. UTUSN Apr 2020 #35
Kickin' Faux pas Apr 2020 #3
i'm guessing this is copyrighted and we should only show 4 paragraphs unblock Apr 2020 #5
Just edited it. It was posted on Facebook in the form that I originally posted. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #9
Is he still linked to the Mob? struggle4progress Apr 2020 #6
I need to read this more closely but, I'm guessing if Donnie Two Scoops turned CI dflprincess Apr 2020 #7
According to the Treasury, the Taj Mahal was a money laundering operation. roamer65 Apr 2020 #10
Resume rife with mob connections struggle4progress Apr 2020 #11
Thank you for this link and the article. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #16
Suspect in Gambino family mob boss hit flashes pro-Trump slogans in court struggle4progress Apr 2020 #12
CI meaning "complete idiot"? LastDemocratInSC Apr 2020 #13
Well, there is that. But in the context - Confidential Informant. But you knew that. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #17
"Up next! The Don Makes His Bones, Episode 45: Coronavirus" struggle4progress Apr 2020 #14
Ouchy. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #18
jeeze...that's interesting.. stillcool Apr 2020 #15
Only a money launderer could make 4 casinos fail in a casino boom. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #19
Great piece of work! Hard to believe, and yet, totally believable. BComplex Apr 2020 #21
Bookmarking to read later. yardwork Apr 2020 #22
Doesn't any liberal minded person have connections BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #23
We could start a gofundme account.. niyad Apr 2020 #28
Brilliant! BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #33
This is interesting, murielm99 Apr 2020 #24
I saw a video some time back about donnie bodybags possibly being a Russian asset. He was niyad Apr 2020 #30
From David Cay Johnston, May 2016: klook Apr 2020 #25
KNR and bookmarking for later (when I have a LARGE drink handy) niyad Apr 2020 #26
Which crime family does Joey "no socks" belong to? The mob guy photographed at some party niyad Apr 2020 #27
Joey "No Socks" Cinque - New Years Eve bash, maralago, 2016 Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #31
Thank you. niyad Apr 2020 #32
Here's Lincoln's Bible twitter account: Leghorn21 Apr 2020 #29
From the O.P.'s links in Post #4: UTUSN Apr 2020 #34

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
8. Thank you.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

This should get around, for sure.

Appreciate it. Good find. I knew about Trump as a mobster, but the details in these are remarkable.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
9. Just edited it. It was posted on Facebook in the form that I originally posted.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

The Facebook link is still there.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
6. Is he still linked to the Mob?
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

BY JEFF STEIN ON 01/10/19 AT 7:10 AM EST

... by the time he was 30, the future president was on the FBI's radar as someone the Mafia might turn to in a pinch. And by the time he was 70, with a business trajectory studded with mobsters, it should've come as no surprise that he was paying hush money to women, allegedly offering a secret hotel deal to Vladimir Putin, calling his longtime former lawyer Michael Cohen a "rat" or denouncing prosecutors for pressuring his associates to "flip" ...

Trump's descent into the gangland may have begun with Roy Cohn, the ruthless lawyer whom Trump hired to help navigate the bare-knuckle New York real estate business. Long notorious for helping Senator Joseph McCarthy unleash the 1950s "red scare" that ruined the careers of scores of Hollywood figures, federal workers and journalists, Cohn in the 1970s represented leaders of the Vito Genovese crime family during a federal racketeering investigation ...

Some of Cohn's Mafia clients controlled New York's construction unions, whose blessings Trump needed to complete his projects. So he "hired mobbed-up firms to erect Trump Tower and his Trump Plaza apartment building in Manhattan, including buying ostensibly overpriced concrete from a company controlled by Mafia chieftains Anthony 'Fat Tony' Salerno and Paul Castellano," Pulitzer Prize winner David Cay Johnston wrote in Politico in 2016. Village Voice investigative reporter Wayne Barrett, who chronicled Trump's deals in books and articles through the years, wrote that Trump probably met Fat Tony through Cohn. "This came at a time when other developers in New York were pleading with the FBI to free them of mob control of the concrete business," Johnston wrote ...

"New York was so totally corrupt and so controlled by the mob in the '80s that in order to be a successful businessman, you had to have some way to work that world," former FBI agent Walt Stowe, who grew close to Trump through the years and says he never saw the developer do anything illegal, told The Washington Post's Robert O'Harrow Jr. in 2016. But by 1988, Trump was feeling so comfortable associating with Mafiosi that he did his first name-licensing deal with a luxury limo rental company owned by John Staluppi, a made member of the Colombo crime family, according to William Bastone, founding editor of The Smoking Gun website. And by that time, Trump was deep into his quest for an Atlantic City fortune ...

https://www.newsweek.com/2019/01/18/donald-trump-mafia-connections-decades-later-linked-mob-1285771.html

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
7. I need to read this more closely but, I'm guessing if Donnie Two Scoops turned CI
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

it was to save himself from prosecution (which does explain why he wasn't prosecuted long before he ran for president).

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
10. According to the Treasury, the Taj Mahal was a money laundering operation.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:29 PM
Apr 2020

That’s about as mobbed up as one can get.

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
11. Resume rife with mob connections
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:33 PM
Apr 2020

David Von Drehle
August 10, 2018 at 6:32 p.m. EDT

... Trump’s trail was blazed through one business after another notorious for corruption by organized crime.

New York construction, for starters. In 1988, Vincent “the Fish” Cafaro of the Genovese crime family testified before a U.S. Senate committee concerning the Mafia’s control of building projects in New York. Construction unions and concrete contractors were deeply dirty, Cafaro confirmed, and four of the city’s five crime families worked cooperatively to keep it that way ...

This would not have been news to Trump, whose early political mentor and personal lawyer was Roy Cohn, consigliere to such dons as Fat Tony Salerno and Carmine Galante. After Cohn guided the brash young developer through the gutters of city politics to win permits for Trump Plaza and Trump Tower, it happened that Trump elected to build primarily with concrete rather than steel. He bought the mud at inflated prices from S&A Concrete, co-owned by Cohn’s client Salerno and Paul Castellano, boss of the Gambino family ...

Trump moved next into the New Jersey casino business, which was every bit as clean as it sounds. State officials merely shrugged when Trump bought a piece of land from associates of Philadelphia mob boss “Little Nicky” Scarfo for roughly $500,000 more than it was worth. However, this and other ties persuaded police in Australia to block Trump’s bid to build a casino in Sydney in 1987, citing Trump’s “Mafia connections” ...

... In 2013, federal prosecutors indicted Russian mob boss Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov and 33 others on charges related to a gambling ring operating from two Trump Tower condos that allegedly laundered more than $100 million. A few months later, the same Mr. Tokhtakhounov, a fugitive from U.S. justice, was seen on the red carpet at Trump’s Miss Universe pageant in Moscow ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/are-trumps-mob-connections-a-coincidence-fuhgeddaboudit/2018/08/10/24b62e2c-9cad-11e8-843b-36e177f3081c_story.html

struggle4progress

(118,278 posts)
12. Suspect in Gambino family mob boss hit flashes pro-Trump slogans in court
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:35 PM
Apr 2020

By ASSOCIATED PRESS
MARCH 18, 20199:15 PM

The man charged with killing the reputed boss of the Gambino crime family wrote pro-Donald Trump slogans on his hand and flashed them to journalists before a court hearing Monday.

Anthony Comello, 24, was arrested Saturday in New Jersey in the death of Francesco “Franky Boy” Cali last week in front of his Staten Island, N.Y., home.

While waiting for a court hearing to begin in Toms River, N.J., in which he agreed to be extradited to New York, Comello held up his left hand.

On it were scrawled pro-Trump slogans including “MAGA Forever,” an abbreviation of Trump’s campaign slogan “Make America Great Again.” It also read “United We Stand MAGA” and “Patriots In Charge.” In the center of his palm he had drawn a large circle. It was not immediately clear why he had done so ...

https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-gambino-crime-boss-20190318-story.html

BComplex

(8,036 posts)
21. Great piece of work! Hard to believe, and yet, totally believable.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:14 PM
Apr 2020

Trump stinks like a skunk, whether he ever gets caught at it and has to do time, or not. He's definitely a crook.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
23. Doesn't any liberal minded person have connections
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

or contacts with this type of organization? Somebody must know somebody else who has a Goodfella they can call up and ask for a favor and get rid of the fucking moron to save the country. Aren't there any civic minded, patriotic Goodfellas who would like to do the US a big favor? If it is a money issue, I will contribute a few bucks and know several others willing to do the same (I have mentioned this in the past and it is met with an enthusiastic response from the Dems I know and love).

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
24. This is interesting,
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:00 PM
Apr 2020

and seems credible.

I would recommend also looking at the works of Malcom Nance, who thinks Trump is a Russian agent. Look into: The Plot to Betray America, The Plot to Hack America and The Plot to Destroy America.

Trump is stupid and dull, but thinks he has the smarts to run with the big, bad boys. He gets used every time.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
30. I saw a video some time back about donnie bodybags possibly being a Russian asset. He was
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:31 PM
Apr 2020

Described as exactly what is looked for-rich, gullible, easily manipulated. Cannot remember the title, but it was a specific term in spycraft about this kind of person.

klook

(12,154 posts)
25. From David Cay Johnston, May 2016:
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:01 PM
Apr 2020
Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob?

(Trump) "hired mobbed-up firms to erect Trump Tower and his Trump Plaza apartment building in Manhattan, including buying ostensibly overpriced concrete from a company controlled by mafia chieftains Anthony “Fat Tony” Salerno and Paul Castellano. That story eventually came out in a federal investigation, which also concluded that in a construction industry saturated with mob influence, the Trump Plaza apartment building most likely benefited from connections to racketeering. Trump also failed to disclose that he was under investigation by a grand jury directed by the U.S. attorney in Brooklyn, who wanted to learn how Trump obtained an option to buy the Penn Central railroad yards on the West Side of Manhattan."

More: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/donald-trump-2016-mob-organized-crime-213910

Johnston doesn't say anything about Trump supposedly being an informant, just that he's up to his eyeballs in mob ties.

niyad

(113,259 posts)
27. Which crime family does Joey "no socks" belong to? The mob guy photographed at some party
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:21 PM
Apr 2020

ole donnie bodybags threw some time around the election??

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
31. Joey "No Socks" Cinque - New Years Eve bash, maralago, 2016
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:34 PM
Apr 2020


He really appears to be a big nobody in mobville, but hey, who knows

But who could ever forget his appearance at that swanky affair??!?

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
29. Here's Lincoln's Bible twitter account:
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:29 PM
Apr 2020
https://mobile.twitter.com/LincolnsBible

and the Citjourno link: http://www.citjourno.org/

LB is an immaculate researcher...if you just start scrolling back in her timeline (plus Citjourno) you’ll get quite an education on this pathetic scumbucket’s mobbed up, trashy, grotesque past

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
34. From the O.P.'s links in Post #4:
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 08:59 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:10 PM - Edit history (1)

**********QUOTE********


https://gregolear.substack.com/p/bloody-mob-sht-an-interview-with

Bloody Mob Sh*t: An Interview with Lincoln's Bible
We talk Trump, Mogilevich, Epstein, Giuliani, Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and more.

Greg Olear
.... LB (Lincoln's Bible) : ... Fred, ... all (his construction projects) were done with known mafia partners, in Genovese-controlled territory, and eventually with a fully Genovese-owned construction company (HRH Construction). ....

... Remember donald’s quote, “Even my father, he said, you don’t want to go to Manhattan. That’s not our territory?” That’s because Manhattan, for construction, was Gambino territory. They controlled the concrete and unions. And Fred was a very loyal, shrewd front for the Genovese. To get his idiot, greedy kid into Manhattan, Fred and Roy Cohn had to get those two mob bosses to agree on a joint venture. ....

GO (Greg OLEAR) : Rudy Giuliani, whose father was a lesser mobster, built his reputation prosecuting Italian mobsters. In the process, he made it easier for the Russians to move in. ... ....

LB: Here’s the thing…and it’s NYC mob gossip, but I trust the source. Rudy and donald hate each other. Capital “H” hate. They both have dirt on one another. And, for both, it’s as bad as it gets. Cocaine, corruption, and bloody mob shit. So they’re stuck together. Don’t look for one to turn on the other. Unless drugs/alcohol/dementia takes over, and they burn each other down as they internally crumble. ....

GO: ... We know he (Jeffrey EPSTEIN) was associated with the Russian mafiya, through his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father, Robert, was business partners with Semion Mogilevich, head of the Vor. ...

LB: Epstein laundered money for global arms dealers. ... ....

*****************

http://www.citjourno.org/mission
Citizen Journalists Consortium
POKE THE BEAR

.... ... There is a man who controls our President. And his name is not Vladimir Putin. ....

... the most brilliant, dangerous, powerful, criminal mastermind the world has ever seen. This is not hyperbole. This is SEMION MOGILEVICH. ....

... Mogilevich, the "Boss of Bosses," is also known in Russia and to international intelligence agencies as Don Semyon, “The Brainy Don.” ....

... The Soviet Union collapsed. In the vacuum of leadership – of policy – of governmental order, a few hungry souls made a mad grab for state resources. They were the original seven oligarchs, called “The Magnificient Seven.” And they were all bankers. One of these first seven bankers, Mikhail Fridman – the founder of ALFABANK, is Semion Mogilevich’s partner. ... ....

... Putin was used to help execute Semion’s strategy for turning Russia into a Mafiya State. ... ....

... SEMION TRADES IN NUCLEAR MATERIAL AND ARMS WITH IRAN ... ....

... This aspect of Semion’s criminal enterprise is one thing (of many) the Iran Deal sought to eliminate. ... ....

... the Russian Mafiya’s infiltration of America. ... the Russian take-over of America’s mafia crime families, the “Five Families,” ... ....

... the mobster Vyacheslov Ivankov set him off on Semion’s trail. Ivankov was Semion’s lieutenant, sent to America to set up operations. If you recognize his name, it’s because Ivankov is the mobster who landed in a condo in Trump Tower, hid out regularly at Trump Taj Mahal, and was eventually caught by the FBI’s organized crime unit. ... ....

... Mogilevich’s crime syndicate is also THE case that puts the history of Donald Trump’s business “partnerships” into context. It explains why the #TrumpRussia investigation ... shifted from counter-intelligence to CRIMINAL. ...

It also answers what lurks beneath Trump’s flailing tweets, firing of Comey, and strategic undermining of the integrity of our independent press. ... ....

... The equation for finding the perfect mark is simple: 1) identify a businessman who has what you need – like a vehicle to wash your blood money, + 2) find their weak spot, and + 3) squeeze. ....

n the United States, there was one businessman at the top of Don Semyon’s list. One who was the easiest mark and could reap the greatest return. One who was sheltering Mogilevich's Men. One who was already in business with the American mafia, when "the" RUSSIAN MOB rolled over them all. ....

And thanks to Fred Trump, Roy Cohn, and the “Five Families” of American mafia, the United States already had a perfect front for Mogilevich to take. A man – a brand, that could wash the devil’s blood money clean. ....

... Semion Mogilevich took over American mafia’s territory, he took Donald Trump with it. ....

... Semion Mogilevich took over his second brand: TRUMP ENTERPRISES. ....

*************


https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1150239448649866&id=100009914652603
Greg OLEAR Facebook page

.... A confidential informant, or “CI,” is a mole run by law enforcement within a criminal enterprise. Not a “rat,” whose treachery is well known to his comrades, but a craftier, more duplicitous breed of rodent. Crimes committed by the CI are overlooked, or allowed to continue unabated, in exchange for good intelligence—“treasure,” as Control calls it in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. ....

The only way to know for sure if Donald John Trump is a Confidential Informant is if he admits it himself (unlikely), or if law enforcement comes forward (illegal). But the circumstantial evidence is compelling. The pattern is: 1) Trump deals with mobsters as usual; 2) Law enforcement begins investigating Trump; 3) Mobsters suddenly get busted, while 4) investigation into Trump is scuttled. This happened three times that we know about. I’m not counting the first known instance of Trump providing information to prosecutors, concerning Cody and concrete, in the late 70s: ... ....

... 1995? Failing tremendously. That was the year when he declared a loss of an unfathomable $916 million on his tax returns. It was also at this time that Trump Tower became a sort of Moscow on Fifth Avenue, with any number of Russian mobsters scooping up apartments—an arrangement that began in 1984, when the Russian mobster David Bogatin purchased five condos for $6 million. Trump Tower was one of just two buildings in all of New York City that allowed units to be purchased by shell companies. Why did Trump, virtually alone among New Yorkers, allow these fishy deals?

As the indefatigable Craig Unger writes in the Washington Post, the shady Bogatin deal began a 35-year relationship between Trump and Russian organized crime. Mind you, this was a period during which the disintegration of the Soviet Union had opened a fire-hose-like torrent of hundreds of billions of dollars in flight capital from oligarchs, wealthy apparatchiks and mobsters in Russia and its satellites. And who better to launder so much money for the Russians than Trump — selling them multimillion-dollar condos at top dollar, with little or no apparent scrutiny of who was buying them. ....

... what made Trump’s attacks on Mueller so ironic. He impugned the former FBI director as corrupt, while depending on his incorruptibility to not reveal his (alleged) CI status. ....

Notes
This piece was written under the expert guidance of Lincoln’s Bible. If you don’t already do so, please follow her on Twitter, and check out her own mafiya reporting at Citjourno.

I encourage everyone to read the State of New Jersey Department of Gaming Enforcement investigation report on the allegations against Donald John Trump in the Wayne Barrett book Trump: The Deals and the Downfall.
The late Bob Levinson was the FBI’s best Russian mob fighter. His Ivankov testimony is also essential reading.

— Greg Olear, Substack

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