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global1

(25,285 posts)
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:40 PM Apr 2020

Fauci & Brix Failed Us....

They are unable to talk Trump out of restarting the economy. His plan is going to kill more Americans and will result in a second wave of the virus thereby making it necessary to extend the time we will have to self isolate. It will cause another run on stores with people stocking up on supplies. This time worse than the original run on the stores.

We are doomed.

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Fauci & Brix Failed Us.... (Original Post) global1 Apr 2020 OP
Didn't he basically leave it up the the governors? Takket Apr 2020 #1
While orchestrating demonstrations against any governor iemitsu Apr 2020 #2
He did. ooky Apr 2020 #8
He's Going To StrongArm The Repug Governors To Ease Up &.... global1 Apr 2020 #11
He refuses to take charge, and do what needs to be done not_the_one Apr 2020 #9
People are getting desperate. This can't go on. AJT Apr 2020 #3
Agree padfun Apr 2020 #7
Except the hot spots are rapidly spreading to rural locations and HIS people. not_the_one Apr 2020 #10
Let the lemmings run to their death. roamer65 Apr 2020 #15
Has anybody ever Ben able to talk sense to the toddler tyrant? niyad Apr 2020 #4
Birx sold out a long time ago. MontanaMama Apr 2020 #5
It's their job to give the best possible advice. meadowlander Apr 2020 #6
+1 HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #12
It's One Thing For Them To Give Him The Best Possible Advice They Can..... global1 Apr 2020 #13
If they quit they will be replaced with incompetent sycophants meadowlander Apr 2020 #16
But Can't You See - He Is Getting Sucked Into Trump's Clown Show..... global1 Apr 2020 #19
100 % agree. i posted the same thing a few days ago drray23 Apr 2020 #28
Fauci needs to stay on this platform, if he departs and appalachiablue Apr 2020 #30
Agree. sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #33
I plan to continue my quarantine until a vaccine needle is stuck into my arm. roamer65 Apr 2020 #14
But Just Like When You Are Driving.... global1 Apr 2020 #17
True. roamer65 Apr 2020 #18
I Agree With You.... global1 Apr 2020 #21
I hear ya. roamer65 Apr 2020 #26
You're on the money here -- "All it takes is that one trip to the grocery store or the LuckyLib Apr 2020 #32
Brix was on Anderson's show earlier OhioChick Apr 2020 #20
She was absolutely horrible rufus dog Apr 2020 #22
As for Fauci, I've lost all respect for him. CountAllVotes Apr 2020 #24
He's a trump lap dog now OhioChick Apr 2020 #25
They have little influence among Trump Supporters JI7 Apr 2020 #23
Not sure what to say about Fauci Blue Owl Apr 2020 #27
I see them as control rods in a runaway nuclear reactor, our only chance to slow a total meltdown Baclava Apr 2020 #29
Trump will get his Isolationist America, because no other country will OnDoutside Apr 2020 #31

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
2. While orchestrating demonstrations against any governor
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:45 PM
Apr 2020

who doesn't think we are ready to reopen.

ooky

(8,930 posts)
8. He did.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:54 PM
Apr 2020

After spending all week saying he was going to do this and that and had all the authority, he came out today and said what we already know - the governors have to do it all with no help from him. He's completely useless.

global1

(25,285 posts)
11. He's Going To StrongArm The Repug Governors To Ease Up &....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:30 AM
Apr 2020

they will obey him like lemmings. Then you will see second spikes in their States cases and deaths. He'll criticize the Dem Governors and cause dissension in the Dem States by using his deplorables to protest the Dem Governor's orders to stay at home.

I live in Illinois in the Chicago Area. Already the Gov of Indiana is talking about easing things up on this virus in early May.

Currently we are having to deal with guns that are more easily purchased in Indiana and brought over the border into Illinois. A lot of those shootings you hear about in Illinois are caused by these guns brought into Illinois that were purchased in Indiana.

Now we'll have to deal with people from Indiana coming into Illinois and the Chicago area that might be carriers of the virus - because they are not self isolating at home and their Governor opened up Indiana. No more self distancing. No more self isolating in their Indiana homes.

We'll be following the self isolation and distancing in Illinois and they will come in and contaminate us and cause a second wave of problems for us in Illinois as well.

If Indiana does ease up - I hope we put barricades up at the Illinois/Indiana border to prevent that from happening.

Trump doing this will create all kinds of confusion all across this country.

He'll sit back and watch all this going on across the country - just thinking of ways he can blame everybody else for the worsening of this crisis.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
9. He refuses to take charge, and do what needs to be done
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:12 AM
Apr 2020

(because he thinks he will successfully spin it, to win it) so he punts it to the governors who aren't equipped to do it all, knowing THEY will be who HE blames when their meager efforts fail. And Americans are so easily deceived.

He CAN'T allow social distancing and an economic shutdown to work. If it does, the dems win. So he is doing everything he can to prolong it.

People are dying? Meh.

He also WANTS a pandemic, so he can maneuver to somehow cancel the election, instituting martial law if necessary. Are we THAT confident that the police and military would NOT take up arms against American citizens? I'm not.

And DON'T say he can't. He has already done a hundred things that we said he couldn't do. He will have the full cooperation of every state legislature that is controlled by republicans. Remember, the SC has said elections are strictly a state's responsibility, and they can do as they please.

It is in the constitution? And how many times has he wiped his ass with the constitution?

You would think that the federal government couldn't sweep in and STEAL PPE equipment that the states had located and bought, but he is doing it. Is it Michigan that located and bought some equipment abroad, and is having it flown in secretly JUST SO THE FEDS CAN'T STEAL IT?

NOTHING is beyond him and them. We need to wrap our brains around that and be ready.

The only silver lining I see is that the states may be able to pull it off, themselves... IN SPITE of everything he is doing to make them fail. IF they do, he is toast. Except for that pesky military/police situation. Again, NOTHING is beyond him, or them.





AJT

(5,240 posts)
3. People are getting desperate. This can't go on.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:47 PM
Apr 2020

I am afraid that people won't learn their lessons unless people go back to work and a second wave hits hard. Unless something happens to them they won't believe it's bad.

I know it's not logical, and it is stupid, but people are generally illogical and stupid.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
10. Except the hot spots are rapidly spreading to rural locations and HIS people.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:25 AM
Apr 2020

And many of their governors are STILL refusing to tell people to stay home. Wait until it starts really spreading outside the retirement homes and assisted living facilities, into the general population, where they HAVE to include them in the dead counts. They have already been infected, they just don't know it yet.

It is so sad to have a situation where the states that did what needed to be done, and are flattening the curve, which HAS to happen before the infections start to lessen, ONLY to have a second wave come through because his cultists refuse to make the necessary sacrifices because they HATE THE LIBTARDS.

MontanaMama

(23,364 posts)
5. Birx sold out a long time ago.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:49 PM
Apr 2020

Fauci? Meh. He’s got an agenda...I hope he cares more for America than he does his job. Regardless...it’s up to the states to decide when to open up. The problem now is the seeds have been sown with deplorables that the Dems want to shut the country down indefinitely. It’s crazy of course...but what hasn’t been crazy since 11.8.16?

meadowlander

(4,411 posts)
6. It's their job to give the best possible advice.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:50 PM
Apr 2020

It's the American peoples' job to elect a president who isn't too stupid and narcissistic to listen to it.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
12. +1
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:35 AM
Apr 2020

Assuming they’re telling him to hold off I’m not going to hold them responsible for Dump not taking their advice.

global1

(25,285 posts)
13. It's One Thing For Them To Give Him The Best Possible Advice They Can.....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:39 AM
Apr 2020

when he doesn't listen and endangers the lives of Americans - it's time for them to resign their jobs - leave his committee and talk the truth to the American People. I really believe that Fauci would be given a forum to do just that. I'm not so sure about Brix. She seems deathly afraid of Trump.

I'm disappointed in Fauci - when he gets up at that podium at Trump's daily lie fests and tries to find the words to make it sound like he is going along with Trump's dangerous plan. Fauci knows better and he's selling out. I trust Fauci - but he's compromising his principles.

Fauci needs to grow some balls and quit on Trump. Biden should hire him the moment that happens and put Fauci on his team.

meadowlander

(4,411 posts)
16. If they quit they will be replaced with incompetent sycophants
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:43 AM
Apr 2020

and then we'll be in even more trouble.

Dr Fauci has spent 50 years of his life preparing to help guide us through the current crisis. He shouldn't be forced to quit because the President is a moron.

He should keep doing what he's doing - getting the truth out there however he can and not getting sucked into the clown show.

global1

(25,285 posts)
19. But Can't You See - He Is Getting Sucked Into Trump's Clown Show.....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:51 AM
Apr 2020

If Fauci quits or is fired - he won't be silenced. He will be given a forum to still speak the truth. He won't have to bite his tongue because he shares the stage with Trump and Trump might throw a fit.

Like I suggested - Biden could hire him for his team. Any news organization that's worth its salt would hire him and give him a forum in an instant.

drray23

(7,638 posts)
28. 100 % agree. i posted the same thing a few days ago
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:39 AM
Apr 2020

Since he can not influence Trump, what goes is there for him to walk on eggshells and give the appearance he is sanctioning Trump's nonsense. He would be better off consulting for governors or indeed put on a transition team by Joe Biden.

appalachiablue

(41,184 posts)
30. Fauci needs to stay on this platform, if he departs and
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:00 AM
Apr 2020

talks on MSM, it will be discredited as sour grapes and 'fake news.' If he joins Biden's team and speaks as some suggest, it will be the same plus he's just a 'shill for the libs'

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
14. I plan to continue my quarantine until a vaccine needle is stuck into my arm.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:39 AM
Apr 2020

COVID-45 can proclaim any bullshit he wants. I can do whatever I want in spite of him.

global1

(25,285 posts)
17. But Just Like When You Are Driving....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:47 AM
Apr 2020

you could be the safest driver on the road. Follow all the rules. And you could be taken out by some unsafe driver that doesn't care about themselves or others.

The same thing goes for this virus situation. You can do everything that is recommended and more - but someone that believes that this self distancing and isolation is not necessary and doesn't protect themselves - could take you down.

Remember there are people out there that still think this is a hoax or just the flu. They throw caution to the wind and their lack of caution can kill you. All it takes is that one trip to the grocery store or the pharmacy by you where someone is walking around with the virus - and you become a statistic.


roamer65

(36,747 posts)
18. True.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:50 AM
Apr 2020

Nothing in life is guaranteed, including life itself.

But I can dang well mitigate the possibility of contracting it.

I trust our governor to make the right decisions.

Gov Whitmer is a smart cookie.

global1

(25,285 posts)
21. I Agree With You....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:57 AM
Apr 2020

Whitmer is a smart cookie and knows the right thing to do. But what happens when the Indiana Governor eases up on the restrictions and lets the people of Indiana run free? People from Indiana could travel to Michigan and wreck havoc on all the good work that Whitmer has accomplished in Michigan.

Trump had second thoughts about his authority to do whatever he wants as president. He realized that if he does take that authority - he gets the responsibility of the results. He doesn't want that. Someone enlightened him to leave the decisions to the Governors of the States. If anything goes south - he has them to blame.

The Governors and the American People (You and I) are being set up.

LuckyLib

(6,821 posts)
32. You're on the money here -- "All it takes is that one trip to the grocery store or the
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:54 AM
Apr 2020

pharmacy by you where someone is walking around with the virus - and you become a statistic."

Folks don't seem to get this. Having people over while saying "We're doing social distancing." "But they're family!" Yeah. And each time you bring more people into your space you increase your risk.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
20. Brix was on Anderson's show earlier
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:52 AM
Apr 2020

Anderson and Sanjay repeated asked her the same question many times, worded differently and she never gave an answer. Sanjay just had this look on his face the entire time, like wtf?

As for Fauci, I've lost all respect for him. He sounds like a sissy when he's with trump. Speak up man, people are dying!

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
22. She was absolutely horrible
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:58 AM
Apr 2020

Simple question on testing availability and how are the states going to pay and coordinate. Never an answer, but Anderson decided to praise her for her help at the end. She should have been told to answer the damn question. They screwed up and rather than owning it are pushing the problem off on the States. That is anything but leadership.

CountAllVotes

(20,878 posts)
24. As for Fauci, I've lost all respect for him.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:08 AM
Apr 2020

I had respect for Fauci at one time.

However, after his "performance" today, I have no respect for him any longer.

He has become another tRump shill IMO, and a dangerous one at that.

People have learned to trust Fauci. Now he cannot be trusted.

He said the USA would not re-open until there were no more COVID-19 cases. Period.

Oh how look at how he has suddenly changed!

How can he even look at himself in the mirror? What a sell-out!


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
25. He's a trump lap dog now
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:18 AM
Apr 2020

Now he's confusing people who "did" believe him at one time.

My mother called me and asked, why does Fauci say one thing when he's being interviewed on his own in regard to the seriousness of this situation but when alongside trump, acts like a pandemic is no big deal?

He should step down as director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, he makes me sick.

Blue Owl

(50,532 posts)
27. Not sure what to say about Fauci
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:38 AM
Apr 2020

He seems like a doctor I'd trust but wish he wouldn't cave into tRump's temper tantrum toddler head games...

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
29. I see them as control rods in a runaway nuclear reactor, our only chance to slow a total meltdown
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:46 AM
Apr 2020

OnDoutside

(19,982 posts)
31. Trump will get his Isolationist America, because no other country will
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:31 AM
Apr 2020

permit travel to their country.

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