Social Security beneficiaries who did not get there stimulus checks yet ..hope this helps read...💰

[Iamaartist]

Treasury expects automatic payments for Social Security beneficiaries no later than the end of April



Social Security retirement, survivors, or disability beneficiaries and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) recipients who do not have qualifying children under age 17:
You do not need to take any action with the IRS. You will automatically receive your $1,200 economic impact payment directly from the IRS. You should receive the automatic payments by direct deposit, Direct Express debit card, or by paper check, just as you would normally receive your Social Security benefits



https://www.ssa.gov/coronavirus/






Do not use this application if you receive the benefits below. If you receive these benefits, we already have your information and you will receive $1,200.
Social Security retirement, disability (SSDI), or survivor benefits
Railroad Retirement and Survivor Benefits



https://www.irs.gov/coronavirus/economic-impact-payments

[at140]

1. Social security does NOT know recipient's income

so how will the government know if the recipient qualifies with income under $99,000?
I am not at all confident the SS admin and IRS can communicate for the data of millions on social security, quickly and accurately.

[Iamaartist]

2. The irs should have your 1099 form with income on it...if you get Social security..

look at 1099 form if have one...read the back of your 1099 it says social security income is reported to the irs

[at140]

3. I do NOT get 1099 from IRS

I send all the 1099's I get from brokers and social security statement TO IRS, with my tax return.

The government has the direct deposit bank info for social security recipients AND has the income information from IRS.

So why the delay in depositing the stimulus money?

I think the government should hire better computer programmers.

[Iamaartist]

4. Should have by the end of April....

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/when-are-stimulus-checks-being-sent-out-how-to-keep-tabs-on-yours-2020-04-10


you can read some here....second wave social security...

[at140]

9. Those who get SS deposits on 1st Wed of month will be waiting

until first week in May, my mother-in-law is in that group.

[UncleNoel]

12. Read today early May at the latest

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

14. Better computer programmers? Maybe their systems are in COBOL, ...

... and most of the COBOL knowledge is in the heads of retirees.

It might be quite a job, getting IRS and SSA systems to communicate.

And it's probably asking too much for IRS and VA Pension System to communicate, so VA Pensioners may have to wait even longer.

[at140]

17. Of course it is all in 40-50 year old COBOL

But how difficult it is to simply use social security number to sync IRS data with social security data?

I was writing computer programs for 37 years using all sorts of different programming languages,
including Assembler, Fortran, Cobol, Dbase, CNC machines, programmable controllers, and few more.
It was no big deal moving from one language to another. But then I have a masters degree in engineering.

[Iamaartist]

19. I agree...

[WhiteTara]

16. this is the trump misadministration

expect no better than this and know that it can get worse. Thanks to Nancy Pelosi we have some leverage against the madness.

[at140]

18. Did you have to deal with ACA on-line?

Have you tried to update info on US savings bonds interest and maturity dates?
All gov't programmers suck.

[mopinko]

5. i figured all along i would get it when i get it.

i have fixed income, but i also have rental property and i got caught between tenants. bad tenant forced big repairs, and we got hung out to dry.
when this passed, i didnt think i would need the money, but i could sure use it now.

i checked my bank account a couple of times in the last few days, then i wrote a check on my ira, and paid the mortgage.
if i have it in time for next month's bills, i'm all good.

[Iamaartist]

6. We can all hope so who hasn't gotten yet..

[mopinko]

7. sometimes a little pessimism in unavoidable.

in this case a lot. i was never counting on a penny.
course, i have had a lot of practice at this. the ex got a big chunk of his compensation in a bonus, and later shares. learned not to spend that money till it hit the bank. it was a hard lesson.

[MineralMan]

8. That's what I've been figuring.

I know that a lot of people are impatient about that stimulus money. They need it sooner rather than later. However, Social Security recipients make up a huge block of people who will get the stimulus payments. Since most SS payments are made by direct deposit, the information is already there, so it will be easy for the payments to be sent to those people.

Some have already received them. I believe the website when it says most will be paid by the end of April. It's probably the easiest group they have for sending out the money.

I don't think there's any need to run to the IRS site to fill out that problematic form. I'm not going to do it. If I don't get the payment by the end of the month, then I will fill it out. Everyone rushing to the site slowed everything down.

The federal government knows who you are if you get SS payments. They know how to deliver them to you. They will come.

[at140]

10. SS deposit info is there with SSA, income eligibility is with IRS

will the two bureaucracies tango together?

[MineralMan]

11. Who knows?

There will probably be some cross-checking, but there will also probably be some errors made, as well.

The vast, vast majority of Social Security recipients do not have income levels that would cause a reduction in the amount of the stimulus payment. The IRS knows who gets social security payments, and also knows the incomes for each person who does. If I were at the IRS doing this, I'd send the Social Security Administration a list of those recipients whose income is too high to get the full amount, along with a calculation of the amount to be paid. Everyone else gets the full amount.

Will they do that? Maybe. I suspect the database systems for the SSA and the IRS are not compatible, so it could be difficult to link the data, but I don't know for sure.

Still, even if they sent the full amount to every Social Security beneficiary without checking income, it wouldn't make a huge difference in the total amount sent, and excesses could be calculated and recovered in the 2020 IRS tax year. All that would take would be one line in the tax forms for listing the amount received in the stimulus payment.

What I do know, though, is that the SSA has the system in place to issue those payments efficiently and in a timely way. So, I imagine that's exactly what it will do. That's the easiest way to pay SS recipients by far.

One of the problems with going to the IRS web form could be duplication of records, which could actually delay an individual's payment or result in duplicated payments, which would have to be clawed back. That's one reason I'm not going to the IRS form right away.

[at140]

21. Excellent post! Thank you for posting.

After seeing no deposits in my bank account used for social security monthly deposits,
I did go to the IRS portal and entered my bank info. You may be right, it might actually delay more the stimulus money deposit.
But I can live without it.

[Iamaartist]

22. Your welcome..Hoping you will get yours..soon..

Maybe a little bit longer...🤐

[unc70]

20. Some regulatory and privacy issues confound problem

The various databases are covered by a variety of privacy restrictions, etc. IRS cannot divulge tax info, SSDI has further protections under health privacy acts, etc. Things become a lot more complex quickly.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

23. I hate to see those two get too close, share too much data.

If "means-testing" for SSA is made easy, Repubs would love to implement it.

Then, when the "haves" get little to nothing, the road will be clear to eliminate it altogether.

[Iamaartist]

13. Thank-you MineralMan...I Agree 😊

You might mess it up by doing so....just wait...

[A HERETIC I AM]

15. *Their*

For fucks sake