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They must be given no quarter (Original Post) Soph0571 Apr 2020 OP
Indeed. No quarter. Laelth Apr 2020 #1
"They voted for it, they supported it, they own it." FM123 Apr 2020 #2
But, really, come on GWC58 Apr 2020 #7
Yep. They were never going to vote to convict him. FM123 Apr 2020 #8
Trump should have been convicted and removed hangaleft Apr 2020 #13
Pence would be calling for everyone to gather at their churches and pray. n/t Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #40
That's why they picked him OldBaldy1701E Apr 2020 #45
He probably wouldnt contradict himself every other day. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #47
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2020 #3
I can't agree more. They have owned this shitshow. nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #4
BTW - you can buy a grocery cart for a quarter at Aldis underpants Apr 2020 #5
Hell is too lush for them. wendyb-NC Apr 2020 #6
I will never forget. bluescribbler Apr 2020 #9
Shun them and shun their businesses and cut off their bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #10
I wouldn't even give them a nickel. MineralMan Apr 2020 #11
GOP Greed Over People patphil Apr 2020 #12
Only IF there is Democratic control of the Senate will we see NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #14
When Biden takes over KS Toronado Apr 2020 #15
Welcome to DU!! Soph0571 Apr 2020 #18
Those tax schedules came from our great hero FDR. roamer65 Apr 2020 #26
Without regaining control of the U.S. Senate DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #44
And for the 100th time, hardly anyone actually PAID near those rates. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #48
Never forget the treachery of the Reich Wing! kairos12 Apr 2020 #16
Sadly, I am at odds with a few of my seven siblings over their support for KPN Apr 2020 #17
I have not spoken to one of my sisters for 15 years because of her particular blend Soph0571 Apr 2020 #19
We've always been a very tight family,so this is pretty hard on me, but I'm getting there. KPN Apr 2020 #23
I understand. Richard58 Apr 2020 #20
Thanks for that. It helps. KPN Apr 2020 #25
i can top that. mopinko Apr 2020 #29
That must be so difficult. Stay strong. Principles matter. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #51
Of course it's great in theory. theaocp Apr 2020 #21
TOTAL ANNIHILATION is the only way HAB911 Apr 2020 #22
Buttery Males !!!! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #24
Besides attacking Trump... Catch2.2 Apr 2020 #27
That's what I say, too: hold ALL the republicans responsible for this mess. BComplex Apr 2020 #31
This is not about justice, it's not even about vengeance. DinahMoeHum Apr 2020 #28
And no excuses ffr Apr 2020 #30
I don't think we will come out on top in November. But, if we do, I fully expect johnthewoodworker Apr 2020 #32
Respectfully, Dems are going to kick ass. Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #50
there should have been no quarter DonCoquixote Apr 2020 #33
Civil War reconstruction The Wizard Apr 2020 #55
It would be great if our Democratic Senators and Representatives started talking like this. jalan48 Apr 2020 #34
They've been getting away with it... dajoki Apr 2020 #35
And now we are the point that trump is calling for an uprising Soph0571 Apr 2020 #37
They must pay the price for their actions n/t dajoki Apr 2020 #43
Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2020 #36
Well they are laughing at Dems mocking us saying go ahead and stop us! Odawg Apr 2020 #38
Well we need to get back to cheaters never prosper Soph0571 Apr 2020 #39
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #41
My mother's expression was - Wouldn't give them air if they were in a bottle. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #42
THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2020 #46
Amen Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #49
Remember Celebrity Apprentice??? czarjak Apr 2020 #52
Belief in the divine rights of kings The Wizard Apr 2020 #53
There must be consequences for their barbaric, ruinous depravity. dalton99a Apr 2020 #54

FM123

(10,053 posts)
2. "They voted for it, they supported it, they own it."
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 09:59 AM
Apr 2020

I often think about how different things would have been if those GOP senators just voted to convict and remove him in February.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
7. But, really, come on
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:21 AM
Apr 2020

we knew the Senate Republicans would never vote to convict. Hell, they didn’t want witnesses because then they’d HAVE to convict.. Then again maybe they wouldn’t have, even then...

FM123

(10,053 posts)
8. Yep. They were never going to vote to convict him.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM
Apr 2020

They knew that a horrible pandemic was heading our way, they knew their guy was incompetent to save us, they knew we (and some of them) were going to die - and yet they knew they were going to vote to let it all happen.

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
13. Trump should have been convicted and removed
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:07 AM
Apr 2020

But would things have been so much better under President Pence? We were fucked no matter what happened.

OldBaldy1701E

(5,112 posts)
45. That's why they picked him
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 06:21 PM
Apr 2020

We basically have a choice: A oligarchy with a pseudo-dictator or a theocracy with a barely alive figurehead. Nice choices, eh?

oldsoftie

(12,521 posts)
47. He probably wouldnt contradict himself every other day.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:25 PM
Apr 2020

And that would actually be a HUGE difference
I also doubt he would insult people like trump does. But I dont think ANYONE would

Silver linings.

bucolic_frolic

(43,122 posts)
10. Shun them and shun their businesses and cut off their
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

cash flows. It's the only thing they understand. Look out for ourselves and do business with supporters of democracy.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,401 posts)
14. Only IF there is Democratic control of the Senate will we see
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:23 AM
Apr 2020

the LAW applied to all who violated it. Without that the alternate reality of conservatism will continue to thrive.

KS Toronado

(17,187 posts)
15. When Biden takes over
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

When Biden takes over, he should simply reinstate the tax schedules President Eisenhower used to keep the rich from becoming overly rich. Yep, hit'em in the pocketbook like they have been doing to us.

DENVERPOPS

(8,804 posts)
44. Without regaining control of the U.S. Senate
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:36 PM
Apr 2020

Biden won't accomplish much, if anything.

Mitch and his cabal successfully obstructed Obama from getting anything done for years.
And despite Obama, Mitch kept ramming thru all kinds of Republican Dream List things, including a ton of Federalist Judges across the entire U.S.

oldsoftie

(12,521 posts)
48. And for the 100th time, hardly anyone actually PAID near those rates.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:30 PM
Apr 2020

There were too many deductions.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
17. Sadly, I am at odds with a few of my seven siblings over their support for
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:43 AM
Apr 2020

everything tRump. They are all evangelicals -- brainwashed toadies. I'm beginning to feel the sentiment expressed in your graphic toward them even. My other siblings think I should ignore my "political" concerns for the sake of family unity. Oddly, that just angers me more. Horrible times we are living in -- but I am optimistic we will prevail in the end. As for my family, I'm not so optimistic.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
19. I have not spoken to one of my sisters for 15 years because of her particular blend
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:54 AM
Apr 2020

of far right evangelical hate filled nuttery. Life is to short

KPN

(15,642 posts)
23. We've always been a very tight family,so this is pretty hard on me, but I'm getting there.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:02 PM
Apr 2020

My family members cast the differences as political -- so let's don't talk about them, don't be ppolitical. My view is it's not political, it's rational!

Richard58

(239 posts)
20. I understand.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:59 AM
Apr 2020

While I don't have Trump humpers in my family anymore---my father was one but he passed away last year at the ripe old age of 88--I do have coworkers who think the sun shines out Trump's ass. Like with your family they are all Evangelical Christians. I don't get how people who supposedly follow Jesus can so adore a monster like Trump, but they do. I have tried to reason with them but to no avail. They are all brain-washed by their pastors and by Fox News. To them, Trump is God's anointed who will lead this country "back to its Godly roots". It's insane but they believe it. Nothing will change their minds. Facts be damned! I avoid them whenever possible because I get so angry at their willful denial of reality. And don't get me started on their condescending "I will pray for you" reply when I point out any of the horrible things Trump has done or is doing. I am truly beginning to hate them.

mopinko

(70,070 posts)
29. i can top that.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Apr 2020

i have a part time open relationship w one. yes, parse that.
it's been a trip, but he is basically a disaffected hippie who fell down the info rabbit hole. he believes in medical woo too. what he fell for is the idea that it's all rigged.

some of these people are reachable, and he and i have learned to cross swords w rules. i will not be trolled. he still tries, but i just say bye. usually by the time he gets his shoes on and finds his car keys, he has cooled off, and we can talk. then we find things we can agree on. i raised 5 kids. i can do simple.

it's funny that he has 2 fb accounts, one of which spends a lot of time in jail. so he uses an older sock, from before he lost his mind. i can have a halfway sane convo on that page. his actual page? blocked.

he is smart, but gullible. he doesnt have a lot of math and science background. he has sane old hippie friends. i try to never miss and opportunity to tear him up on his anti-science bullshit. he is a little better at math, but i give an occasional tedtalk about the highschool maths. and i never pass up an opportunity to wager on future numbers that i know he is not grasping.

his big contribution to keeping this sane, such that it is, is that he knows how to drop it. and apologize.

i feel ya. i had to step back from my brother, who is a lefty, but a bully. fam thinks i am being touchy and grinding old grudges, but i was always target #1, and apparently still am.

theaocp

(4,235 posts)
21. Of course it's great in theory.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:01 PM
Apr 2020

What makes anyone think we'll look backward, based on past performance? This SHOULD be a purity test, but when we DO LOOK FORWARD AND NOT BACKWARD, everyone will back down with Susan Collins-level concern. There will be forgetfulness. Count on it.

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
27. Besides attacking Trump...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:14 PM
Apr 2020

The Dems should have been putting pressure on the rest of the Republicans. No one is holding them accountable for supporting this lying con man!

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
31. That's what I say, too: hold ALL the republicans responsible for this mess.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:35 PM
Apr 2020

Every single one. And let's make sure we all get out and vote for the next 40 years, so this doesn't happen again! EVER!

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
28. This is not about justice, it's not even about vengeance.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:21 PM
Apr 2020

What I want is PUNISHMENT for those clowns.





#newrostrong

 

johnthewoodworker

(694 posts)
32. I don't think we will come out on top in November. But, if we do, I fully expect
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

that Biden, and democrats in the house and senate, will let the republicans skate just like Bush. Torture and an illegal war, no problem. Don't do it again, okay. Criminally underperform your duties during a pandemic, we better not see that again, now move along.

Joinfortmill

(14,409 posts)
50. Respectfully, Dems are going to kick ass.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 11:00 PM
Apr 2020

We've been waiting 3 long years. The voter turnout is going to be huuuuuge.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
33. there should have been no quarter
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

after W. Bush nearly wrecked the country, and got us into wars we still die in. I know that many critics of Obama act as a fifth columnof Putin right and Jill stein left, but if there is one critique of Obama, it is that he did try the whole "malice toward none, charity for all" approach" to "unify the country." I did not choose that metaphor by accident, after all, Obama compared himself to his fellow Illinois president, but also we all know that Lincoln got paid for his efforts by assassination, after which a confederate general named Nathan Forrest from the KKK, clawed back every concession, and pretty much continued right where Lee left off. Indeed, it is no accident that many GOP are actively engaging in the whitewash of the C.S.A.

in other words, let''s call this what it is, a COLD CIVIL WAR with agents actively wanting to make it a hot one.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
55. Civil War reconstruction
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:07 AM
Apr 2020

should have ended 100 years ago. The slave states keep their Congressmen and Senators for life. This gives them seniority that they parlay into committee chairs that determine the legislation to be brought up for debate and passage, and in many cases funnelling money to the Confederacy.
It's time to partition the country and let the Repubics have the slave states.
Obama's big mistakes were letting corrupt bankers loot the Treasury with impunity and letting war profiteers like Halliburton and Blackwater escape prosecution. Every time he reached across the aisle he pulled back a bloody stump. To say what they did happened in the past and we have to look forward is naive. All crimes happen in the past.

jalan48

(13,853 posts)
34. It would be great if our Democratic Senators and Representatives started talking like this.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:44 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Otherwise, it's just impotent outrage in the face of an authoritarian takeover of our government.

dajoki

(10,678 posts)
35. They've been getting away with it...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 12:52 PM
Apr 2020

for decades. That is the reason we are here now, it must stop ASAP or they will continue to do everything they can to keep power.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
37. And now we are the point that trump is calling for an uprising
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:30 PM
Apr 2020

There really cannot be anyway back for these dangers to humanity

 

Odawg

(37 posts)
38. Well they are laughing at Dems mocking us saying go ahead and stop us!
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:54 PM
Apr 2020

I'm not sure we can....they cheat

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
39. Well we need to get back to cheaters never prosper
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:11 PM
Apr 2020

If they have their way America is going to end up an isolated mix of nazi principles and the hand maidens tale.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
46. THANK YOU
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 07:13 PM
Apr 2020

and FUCK these silly anecdotes about how my sister's neighbor's hairdresser's son who voted for Trump has SEEN THE LIGHT! *BULLSHIT* FUCK THEM ALL!

czarjak

(11,266 posts)
52. Remember Celebrity Apprentice???
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:46 AM
Apr 2020

When President “I alone can fix it” needed help firing people from fake jobs? Patrick Knapp Schwarzenegger was his go-to advisor. (Ever wonder what that extreme vetting process must have been like?)

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
53. Belief in the divine rights of kings
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:52 AM
Apr 2020

is the antitheses of the values embraced by the Founding Fathers who used The Enlightenment as the road map to writing our Constitution that Trump and his Brownshirts use for toilet paper excepting the Second Amendment which they managed to pervert with the help of the Mediocre (formerly Supreme) Court.

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