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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:24 PM Apr 2020

Botton line, we are being too civilized with the people who are trying to destroy/kill us.

The news media, Democratic leaders and the sane people of American have been, are being much too nice to the evil people who are killing us. Just my opinion.


I am not saying we should become violent and hurt people physically. I am saying we should be much more vicious in how we respond verbally, How reporters ask questions, how politicians respond to Trumps bullshit, protesting, etc.

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Botton line, we are being too civilized with the people who are trying to destroy/kill us. (Original Post) shockey80 Apr 2020 OP
Everytime I see the gun nuts toting thier semiautomitics I point at their crotch SoonerPride Apr 2020 #1
Lol. Sure ya do. cwydro Apr 2020 #14
Lock them up! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
I've thought that for awhile and have Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #3
The problem though is most Trump supporters can't be shamed dustyscamp Apr 2020 #4
Getting bested by a female in public seems Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #5
Ah yeah, they really hate that dustyscamp Apr 2020 #7
Maybe not shamed, but shut down, yes. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #8
"everyones's opinion is important" is the last refuge of a RW snowflake DBoon Apr 2020 #6
This still holds true.... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #10
How about time delaying his pressers... lame54 Apr 2020 #9
I was asked by the NYT to fill out a survey on the paper Mike 03 Apr 2020 #11
Agreed. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #12
RWers are cowards. Everyone of them. They have to have their pacifiers in ... SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #13
The problem is that we have a hard time breaking from custom. Yavin4 Apr 2020 #15
I thought just that, when Whitmer was coddling the protests yesterday...don't try jmg257 Apr 2020 #16
I have finally come to accept that we are too civilized with the Destroyers BellaBarnes Apr 2020 #17
YES Saboburns Apr 2020 #18

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. Everytime I see the gun nuts toting thier semiautomitics I point at their crotch
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:28 PM
Apr 2020

"Sorry about your tiny penis."

That works for me.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. Lock them up!
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:29 PM
Apr 2020

Including dump. Treat him just like any other citizen. He is beyond a terrorist threat! He has willfully murdered tens of thousands of Americans!

DHS?

Phoenix61

(17,000 posts)
3. I've thought that for awhile and have
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:34 PM
Apr 2020

acted accordingly. I had two grown men walk away and sulk in separate corners. They were spewing right wing bullshit and got their fee fees hurt when I blasted them with facts. One actually said it wasn’t his fault that I had more time to be better informed. WTF does that even mean? The whole “everyones’s opinion is important” is utter bullshit. Hate filled ignorant bs isn’t an opinion, it’s bs and should be fact checked hard and fast. If the person spewing it is shamed in the process, good. That’s the way it’s supposed to work.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
4. The problem though is most Trump supporters can't be shamed
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

They have too much ego to stop talking crap. I feel the only way to get them to back down is through actions like having their leaders removed from power.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
8. Maybe not shamed, but shut down, yes.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:58 PM
Apr 2020

My wife and I have shut down right wingers talking crap on Facebook many a time. Usually they will rant, then we come in and blast them out. Sometimes they delete their posts and stop answering. Sometimes they complain to the "mutual Facebook friend" threatening to unfriend them, etc...

Are we changing minds? Likely not, but that is not the point. My strategy is to prevent them from contaminating discussions with their bullshit. Sparing other people from having to take in their stupidity.

You are however, correct. The focus should be top down. Get the leaders out of their and the followers slink back into the dark crevices.

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
6. "everyones's opinion is important" is the last refuge of a RW snowflake
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 01:53 PM
Apr 2020

"My stupid is just as good as your smart"

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. This still holds true....
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:05 PM
Apr 2020

This quote still holds true. In fact, we are seeing the outcome of it right now and it is most prevalent. You can't have a genuine democracy without citizens who can understand what it is and are willing to abide by its tenets.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."- Isaac Asimov

lame54

(35,283 posts)
9. How about time delaying his pressers...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:01 PM
Apr 2020

Then fact checking him in huge letters across the screen as he lies

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
11. I was asked by the NYT to fill out a survey on the paper
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:07 PM
Apr 2020

and with the praise I heaped on them, I ended by expressing exactly this sentiment.

I really am sick of it too. A legal analyst I really like made a "joke" this morning about Trump's liberate tweets and I strenuously objected. This is not normal. Full stop.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
12. Agreed.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:13 PM
Apr 2020

Right wingers always cry, "What about civility?" whenever they are confronted with anything other than kid gloves.They say that we are "unfair" and say, "What happened to the tolerant left?" Liberals and progressives ARE tolerant of different ideas. We accept many differing life experiences, identities, and ideologies that differ from ones we may hold. What we do not tolerate, are ideologies, attitudes, and behaviors that put people at grave risk of harm. WE DON"T HAVE TO TOLERATE THAT.

We should not tolerate that. The view that money is more important that human life should not be tolerated or respected. That is not a valid point of view. We can argue how much is too much, or what the goals and outcomes of policies are, but that is not what the right wingers are doing.

I do get frustrated at how the media and politicians from our side will often act like a disgusting and deranged viewpoint, like when the lieutenant governor of Texas was talking about giving people the choice to die for the economy (I mean, I know it was Tucker Carlson). It should be condemned with the strongest language and be called what it is. A callous disregard for people.

SWBTATTReg

(22,110 posts)
13. RWers are cowards. Everyone of them. They have to have their pacifiers in ...
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:29 PM
Apr 2020

their mouths literally before they can go out in public or look tough.

Go ahead, threaten me and mine. I have my own little gun (22 caliber) to protect me and mine against idiots like you, when you try and break into my home and steal from me, and mine.

Especially now, when instead of working to provide for your families and loved ones, you are out there prancing around with your toy guns, protesting literally nothing, who knows how much time you've wasted.

No one coming to take your guns. Why in the hell do I want your stupid guns? They're probably contaminated w/ who knows what germs, especially after seeing all of you on those steps. Yikes.

No one is telling you a damn thing other then we all should protect ourselves and loved ones, by self-isolating ourselves. If you got a problem w/ that, then peacefully file something w/ the courts, don't go running around w/ your guns first thing.

What excuse will you give when members of your following, or your family members start getting sick?

Excuses will be far too late by then.

Yavin4

(35,433 posts)
15. The problem is that we have a hard time breaking from custom.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 02:33 PM
Apr 2020

It's custom to see Republicans as rational, normal people with a different opinion on policy. It's custom to respect different arguments even when we disagree with them. But, that custom is based on the other side being honest and rational.

The Republican party, esp. in the Trump era, has abandoned rational thinking and honesty. They don't believe in government or governing. Yet, they still run for office and seek power. Once in office, they show their disinterest in governing by not listening to career experts at almost every agency, intelligence, anti-terrorism, the DOJ, the FBI, career foreign civil servants, the State dept., NIH, the CDD, and on and on and on.

Republicans rely on custom to avoid being categorized a fringe political group which should not be allowed in the mainstream discourse.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
16. I thought just that, when Whitmer was coddling the protests yesterday...don't try
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:04 PM
Apr 2020

to reason with them, tell them what's what and tell them to suck it up and stop being selfish assholes.

A little violence might be necessary, though. ITS YOUR LIFE THEY ARE SCREWING WITH!


BellaBarnes

(27 posts)
17. I have finally come to accept that we are too civilized with the Destroyers
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:19 PM
Apr 2020

The rule that I was taught and have lived by my whole life has been "Treat other people the way you want to be treated". I have tried very hard to live by that rule. However, it has finally been pounded into my head that not everybody believes that way. Destroyers see a person who is kind, generous and forgiving as a sheep to be sheared and they do so.
I still believe that I want to treat people kindly, but there are some who are simply too dangerous to treat nicely-they will destroy you every time. The time has come not for revenge, but for justice. We can no longer let them get away with "It's just a joke, snowflake". Frankly, yes, the reporters and journalists need to step up and follow up with tough responses. When Trump tries to talk over them or shut them up, they need to respond in the same way. If it means being vicious, then vicious it is.

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