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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:24 PM Apr 2020

Joe Manchin to endorse Joe Biden after saying he could potentially support Trump

Sen. Joe Manchin, the independent-minded West Virginia Democrat who sometimes irks his party by siding with Republicans, intends to back fellow Democat Joe Biden for president, according to a report.

Manchin, 72, who has served in the Senate since 2010 after previously serving as West Virginia’s governor, was unequivocal about his plans Thursday in an interview with Politico.

“I will, absolutely,” Manchin said when asked if he will support Biden.

In February, he said he might endorse President Trump for reelection - although he voted to remove him from office.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/joe-manchin-to-endorse-joe-biden-after-saying-he-could-potentially-support-trump/ar-BB12L2PV?li=BBnb7Kz

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Joe Manchin to endorse Joe Biden after saying he could potentially support Trump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
Damn, I should hope so! klook Apr 2020 #1
Any Democratic Senator that would even consider voting for trump should be banished from the party spanone Apr 2020 #2
+1 If you want to call yourself a Dem, don't besmirch the name. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #4
He's speaking to his audience. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #7
Any Democratic senator saying he might support Trump weakens the party and the party's message. SharonClark Apr 2020 #8
Find a less moderate Democrat who can win WV. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #9
Manchin is one reason why Dems need to win the Senate big NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #3
Best to get 66 seats. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #5
We can't. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #6
Republicans have 22 seats up for grabs NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #10
KY, MT, TX aren't "safe" seats. TwilightZone Apr 2020 #11

klook

(12,154 posts)
1. Damn, I should hope so!
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

Imagine an election in which Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders endorse Biden, and Manchin supports Trump!!


File under "Nightmares Averted."

TwilightZone

(25,462 posts)
7. He's speaking to his audience.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:57 PM
Apr 2020

He has a ton of bipartisan support in WV. He was never likely going to vote for Trump, but saying he would consider it is politically smart in WV.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
8. Any Democratic senator saying he might support Trump weakens the party and the party's message.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:03 PM
Apr 2020

He's an ass.

TwilightZone

(25,462 posts)
9. Find a less moderate Democrat who can win WV.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 04:07 PM
Apr 2020

In WV, we can have a Senator who votes with us half the time or none of the time. Those really are the options: moderate or right-wing nutjob.

His whole shtick is bipartisanship. Expecting him to suddenly change that and become a die-hard isn't realistic.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. Manchin is one reason why Dems need to win the Senate big
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:28 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:03 PM - Edit history (1)

If Biden wins and the senate is 50-50 or 51-49, the Dems would be continually kowtowing to Manchin and maybe 1 or 2 others.

Best to get a big blue wave and get 53 or 54 seats.

TwilightZone

(25,462 posts)
6. We can't.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:54 PM
Apr 2020

There aren't enough open. Not even close. 42 are either not up this cycle or safe Republican.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. Republicans have 22 seats up for grabs
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:21 PM
Apr 2020

and "safe" seats like South Carolina, Kentucky and Montana are at least initially looking competitive. Have not seen Hegar/Cornyn polling in Texas, but Hegar was very close in 2018 in a very red district for US House so will hopefully can compete statewide.

That said, even if Trump completely melts down and loses big, a blue tsunami would realistically get a net 6-8 seats for Democrats. Republicans had a net 9 pickup in 2014. The same six year cycle had Democrats picking up a net 8 seats in 2008. So, if you go by history, this six year cycle should see a pretty big gain for one party, hopefully Democrats.

(1958 Democrats had a net 12 seat pickup and Republicans had a net 12 seat pickup in 1980 with Reagan)

TwilightZone

(25,462 posts)
11. KY, MT, TX aren't "safe" seats.
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 05:27 PM
Apr 2020

They're lean R and likely R.

Safe seats are places like SD, NE, WY, OK, etc., that we have zero chance of winning.

https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-election/

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