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Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 06:19 AM Apr 2020

Israel Is Reporting That The Trump Admin Reached Out To Them Back In November To Warn about pandemic

https://politicaltribune.org/israel-is-now-reporting-that-the-trump-administration-reached-out-to-them-back-in-november-to-warn-them-about-impending-pandemic/

Israel Is Now Reporting That The Trump Administration Reached Out To Them Back In November To Warn Them About Impending The Times of Israel claims Israeli television reported tonight that US intelligence agencies warned the country of an impending pandemic with coronavirus, gaining speed in China, a startling five months ago.

“The US intelligence community became aware of the emerging disease in Wuhan in the second week of that month and drew up a classified document,” the report alleged.
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Israel Is Reporting That The Trump Admin Reached Out To Them Back In November To Warn about pandemic (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2020 OP
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #1
Could that be Nutandyayhoo throwing Trump under the bus? Maybe he's realized that brewens Apr 2020 #2
No. Israel is a democracy, they don't have state media robbedvoter Apr 2020 #28
More damming information they knew duforsure Apr 2020 #3
Where is Bloomberg? padah513 Apr 2020 #4
Hey Deplorables MAGA! SammyWinstonJack Apr 2020 #5
I'm not so sure this source... Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #6
Here you go RandiFan1290 Apr 2020 #7
Thanks! Trueblue Texan Apr 2020 #8
Trump knew of C-19 last November and did not do anything until March of this year and yesterday ... Botany Apr 2020 #9
Plan? Trump? No, he is just fucked up. eom reACTIONary Apr 2020 #12
Although both he and Jared started running ways to grift off of the coming pandemic Botany Apr 2020 #13
It was planned IMO: Coronavirus capitalism and election tampering Auggie Apr 2020 #15
A little LIHOP? Blue_playwright Apr 2020 #17
I wouldn't put it past them Auggie Apr 2020 #20
I still have not found a good original source for the 4600 number dead yesterday. Chemisse Apr 2020 #18
link @ this link Botany Apr 2020 #19
Yes, thank-you. But it links to an article. The web sites that actually do the counting Chemisse Apr 2020 #21
I'm just going from the article from The Hill Botany Apr 2020 #24
It's puzzling to me but I'm just going to have to let it go. Chemisse Apr 2020 #26
I don't know what the exact right # is either. Botany Apr 2020 #27
MITCH MCCONNELL, RICHARD BURR, OTHER LEADERS KNEW. Hortensis Apr 2020 #22
I believe that China turned the complete genome for the C-19 virus over to the W.H.O. in Dec. of '19 Botany Apr 2020 #25
Yes, apparently at least by early January? Germany's now Hortensis Apr 2020 #29
And we have no way to really know where the virus is because Trump has blocked testing .... Botany Apr 2020 #30
Judging by actions, yes and not him alone. Hortensis Apr 2020 #31
And why after 2 phone calls with Vlad last week are we seeing these astroturfing campaigns ... Botany Apr 2020 #32
Good point. Vlad is not Trump or McConnell's friend either, Hortensis Apr 2020 #33
I have a hard time keeping my mind from going to very dark places Botany Apr 2020 #34
The ruling wealth-serving ideology, real or fake, is a Hortensis Apr 2020 #35
We are at almost 40,000 confirmed deaths form C-19 today Botany Apr 2020 #36
Deleted duplicate. Hortensis Apr 2020 #23
KNR... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2020 #10
K&R uponit7771 Apr 2020 #11
If true, it'll be fodder for the campaign. RVN VET71 Apr 2020 #14
None of this was done out of ignorance, but hate and profiteering. lark Apr 2020 #16

brewens

(13,542 posts)
2. Could that be Nutandyayhoo throwing Trump under the bus? Maybe he's realized that
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 06:55 AM
Apr 2020

Trump is dangerous and stupid enough that he should help take him down?

robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
28. No. Israel is a democracy, they don't have state media
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:22 PM
Apr 2020

I doubt Bibi would be in a position to publicly oppose 🍊.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. More damming information they knew
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 06:59 AM
Apr 2020

And their refusals to act were intentional , and still is undermining help and supplies getting to the medical professionals. Wouldn't be surprised if trump has given Fema a enemies list to keep them from getting these critically needed supplies by confiscating them to intentionally hurt American people with for political benefit in blue states. This shouldn't be allowed to ever happen , ever . This is criminal. He called it a hoax knowing it wasn't all along. Tired of the excuses and all his lying, and he and the gop will have consequences for doing this. trump and the gop are old blooded killers , and serial liars, and corrupt, and they will be exposed for everything in time.

padah513

(2,496 posts)
4. Where is Bloomberg?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:15 AM
Apr 2020

Let's get those ads up and running. Hit him and hit him hard. If he has to keep answering questions about accusations like this, he'll stop doing these pressers

Trueblue Texan

(2,420 posts)
6. I'm not so sure this source...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:31 AM
Apr 2020

...is reputable. Maybe I'm just not familiar with it. I see nothing in the Times of Israel on this subject. Can anyone else find anything?
https://www.timesofisrael.com

Botany

(70,447 posts)
9. Trump knew of C-19 last November and did not do anything until March of this year and yesterday ...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:47 AM
Apr 2020

... alone 4,600 Americans died because of that virus.

And by what reasoning do they get only 60,000 deaths by August 1st? Especially if they
open things back up.

How many total deaths do we have now in America now? 36,000?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142472929

******
Does Trump really want us to die? Has that been the plan all along or is he just a fuck up?

Botany

(70,447 posts)
13. Although both he and Jared started running ways to grift off of the coming pandemic
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 08:12 AM
Apr 2020

If I go back to bed will I wake up and this all be over?

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
15. It was planned IMO: Coronavirus capitalism and election tampering
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 08:59 AM
Apr 2020

Profit from the pandemic while stealing the election. We’re seeing it play out now, albeit slowly.

- No oversight of corporate relief handouts
- No bid contracts
- Wisconsin voting
- “Liberate, liberate, liberate”

More to come. Guaranteed.

Auggie

(31,133 posts)
20. I wouldn't put it past them
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:43 AM
Apr 2020

If the numbers suggested a pandemic would help their numbers in November -- or neutralize those of a challenger -- I think they'd go for it. Whether that means POTUS, the Senate, or a handful of purple states.

Just like 2016, they only need a few counties in a few states.

Chemisse

(30,803 posts)
18. I still have not found a good original source for the 4600 number dead yesterday.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:33 AM
Apr 2020

But on your other point, the graph showing the deaths leveling off and staying at 60,000 through August is clearly wishful thinking.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
24. I'm just going from the article from The Hill
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:03 AM
Apr 2020

Thursday marked a new record for coronavirus deaths in the U.S., with 4,591 people dying from the virus in just 24 hours.

The prior record was 2,569 deaths in the U.S. on Wednesday, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University.

Chemisse

(30,803 posts)
26. It's puzzling to me but I'm just going to have to let it go.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:35 AM
Apr 2020

I wish the "Wall Street Journal analysis of data from Johns Hopkins University" had explained its methods and why it differs from the others. I can't get into the WSJ article itself so it may actually do that.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
27. I don't know what the exact right # is either.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:50 AM
Apr 2020

But be assured that we are going to blow by Trump's 60,000 dead figure by May 1.

This is a nightmare.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
22. MITCH MCCONNELL, RICHARD BURR, OTHER LEADERS KNEW.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:57 AM
Apr 2020

Btw, remember, Richard Burr is chair of the senate intelligence committee and in the past was heavily involved in writing and passing legislation to STOP future epidemic disease and fast-track development of vaccines and medications.

They knew from the beginning, and now that is going to turn out to be last November. No surprise. COVID-19 was raging in Wuhan in December and China finally forced to admit it to the WHO on December 31. So for sure McConnell and other Republican senators on the intelligence committee knew it in December.

And from November or December until today, they have been blocking all attempts by Democratic legislators to begin containment, and then blocking mitigation efforts.

McConnell's latest was to adjourn the senate and send Republican senators home. He's campaigning in KY while the latest huge bill passed by house Democrats, to order and fund testing, gathers dust on his desk.

Meanwhile, Senate Democrats, in DC and at work, passed their own bill 3 days ago, which similarly would provide "$30 billion in emergency funding to increase testing and build out a structure for administering tests across the country."

Time for people to stop imagining this is all Trump. If he dropped dead tomorrow the real, entrenched villains would still be in power.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
25. I believe that China turned the complete genome for the C-19 virus over to the W.H.O. in Dec. of '19
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:06 AM
Apr 2020

and that scientists in Germany used that information to build a test kit for the disease by late
Dec. '19 or early Jan. '20.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. Yes, apparently at least by early January? Germany's now
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 07:18 AM
Apr 2020

being watched by other nations as it plans a methodical reopening. They're going to test the entire population for antibodies. Meanwhile, of course, our pandemic is in a very different phase.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
30. And we have no way to really know where the virus is because Trump has blocked testing ....
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 07:50 AM
Apr 2020

.... and or the test kits. Is the man working with Vlad to kill us?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. Judging by actions, yes and not him alone.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:43 AM
Apr 2020

WHY did and are the Republicans blocking legislation to direct and compel life-saving action?

It's congress that legislates and funds action against epidemic disease. Presidents administer congress's mandates. Yes, Trump dismantled the National Security Council's pandemic preparedness unit, but congress could have legislated reestablishment. Congress itself had devastated other organizations by big cuts to funding, but could have restored it. Instead, the senate Republicans blocked all attempts to identify and contain this disease, and then once it was killing us blocked all attempts to mitigate the deaths.

Dr. Birx just said lower death rates in Asian countries initially mislead many into underestimating its virulent spread, into thinking it was mainly just taking out a bunch of old and sick, and it may be that the Republican leadership underestimated how badly the economy would be hurt if they just let COVID cut those on SocSec, Medicare, Medicaid.

In any case, though we don't know their motives, that they forced inaction isn't theory but incontrovertible, a matter of congressional record. And we have a bunch of video of congressional and state Republicans assuring the nation it was all Democratic lies as the virus spread invisibly out of control.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
32. And why after 2 phone calls with Vlad last week are we seeing these astroturfing campaigns ...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:02 AM
Apr 2020

... to open things back up? Vlad has been busy.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213311147

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Good point. Vlad is not Trump or McConnell's friend either,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:11 AM
Apr 2020

even if they have a symbiotic relationship against us. And whatever they're up to, their goals are clearly inimical to our nation's interests.

Three days ago Democratic senators introduced a giant $30 billion testing bill to match the one already PASSED by house Democrats that's been gathering dust in McConnell's empty office.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
34. I have a hard time keeping my mind from going to very dark places
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:44 AM
Apr 2020

Is Trump & Kushner trying to make money off of the pandemic?

Is Trump so evil that he is willing to kill/let die 100s of thousands of Americans to keep power?

Is the weakening and or destruction of the United States and the Western European Countries
a goal of Vlad and Trump?

******
Trump is fighting the testing because it will show that the # of cases and deaths from C-19 is
much much higher than the published #s.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. The ruling wealth-serving ideology, real or fake, is a
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

libertarianism which is against all government social programs and for people living and dying on their own. Charles Koch was once caught stating that the only valid role of government was protection of person and property, and possibly of money from fraud, i.e., police, fire, military.

The darkest scenario is the one playing out in nations already falling to authoritarian takeovers, where the disruptions of pandemic are being use to grab and consolidate power.

Of course, Trump is far too stupid and transient to be the powers directing either of these, though considering his own vicious authoritarian nature and extremist ass-whisperers would be on board emotionally with both.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
36. We are at almost 40,000 confirmed deaths form C-19 today
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:00 AM
Apr 2020

Trump's made up # of "only 60,000" dead from C-19 will be blown past by May 1st no problem.

USA #s 4/19/20
Confirmed cases 740,746 Recovered 66,676 Deaths 39,158

RVN VET71

(2,689 posts)
14. If true, it'll be fodder for the campaign.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 08:37 AM
Apr 2020

Actually, whether true or not, it will be fodder for the campaign.

The NCMI insists that they never issued the warning and report alluded to by the Times of Israel. But there are other intel organs within the administration that may have done so. Or the NCMI may have issued a report containing the information alluded to but also containing much other information thus giving them the out to say they did not issue a report about the virus (because the report may have been primarily about many other issues and the intel on the virus just an incidental add on.)

This is all spy novel stuff and we, the people of this once great Republic, will never know the truth because of security classification restrictions.

Regardless, though, this will be fodder for the campaign.

lark

(23,065 posts)
16. None of this was done out of ignorance, but hate and profiteering.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:02 AM
Apr 2020

Fascist Russian Repugs didn't invent the virus, but they sure jumped on it as an opportunity to transform our entire nation. drumpf shuts us down to hurt us bad financially so he can step in and steal 500 billion, yes 500 BILLION - for himself and maybe some of his rich fascist oligarch donors. Then he fires the IG, says he alone is in charge and in effect stole 500 billion to use to fluff his bank account and steal the election. He is profiteering off our National Emergency Supplies and refuses to help the states, instead making them big against each other drastically driving up the prices and making the state broke so they can't do effective elections. He's purposefully breaking the post office so mail in voting won't happen and he PLANS to have his supporters riot so he can shut down the elections.

Dems are right not to play ball with his murderous asses request for another 250 billion in slush money. Don't give those fuckers one more dime to steal.

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