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Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:19 AM Apr 2020

I'm done with Bill Maher

He was totally unprepared to refute the one-eyed repuke guest he invited. Then he spent his New Rules segment trotting out the argument that so many other things kill us we shouldn't be overreacting to the coronavirus.

Maher has always been a smug prick, sometimes funny and occasionally spot-on. But all too often he lets his RW guests run roughshod over him because he's too busy getting high to do his homework for effective counter arguments against so much of the BS he essentially lets go unchallenged, just saying OK before moving to the next talking point that gets shot down.

Fuck him. I've got better choices for information and entertainment.

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I'm done with Bill Maher (Original Post) Martin Eden Apr 2020 OP
Just watched. So true. He did not know his facts Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2020 #1
Yeah and he Goonch Apr 2020 #6
He's very impressed with himself, can't watch him. dem4decades Apr 2020 #2
I turned him off last night less than half way through. mnhtnbb Apr 2020 #3
More logic in your post than in all of Maher's mouthings Martin Eden Apr 2020 #5
Maher is not an ally Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #4
+1. Maher is an amoral opportunistic asshole dalton99a Apr 2020 #11
Maher rso Apr 2020 #7
He is a Libertarian. Never forget Polly Hennessey Apr 2020 #8
Yeah, he embraces Coulter like a friend and colleague Martin Eden Apr 2020 #9
Buddies? qazplm135 Apr 2020 #12
Yeah its called Bev54 Apr 2020 #32
He provides perspective Shermann Apr 2020 #10
I agree with you Zing Zing Zingbah Apr 2020 #47
Here is what bothers me about him! imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #13
Language on Maher Show JGug1 Apr 2020 #26
Can't stand him. It's amazing that people pay money to watch him. redstateblues Apr 2020 #14
I stopped watching him. femmocrat Apr 2020 #15
He was never a liberal and he is also dumb. BeckyDem Apr 2020 #16
I'm astonished that everyone here didn't figure out years ago PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #17
Right-wng asshole? JGug1 Apr 2020 #25
I haven't watched him in probably 15 years. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #34
Gave up on him long ago ornotna Apr 2020 #18
Self Important Prick JGug1 Apr 2020 #24
You seem nice ornotna Apr 2020 #27
The world would be a better place if nobody had any time for assholes... Salviati Apr 2020 #19
Too much smoking has affected his mental acuity & he's become intellectually lazy dlk Apr 2020 #20
I believe I've watched him 2 or 3 times relayerbob Apr 2020 #21
Bill Maher JGug1 Apr 2020 #22
He doesn't have to attack them Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #31
What GOP talking points exactly? Shermann Apr 2020 #39
Just listen to him talk about Biden Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #45
Link? Quote? Shermann Apr 2020 #46
Watch last night's show Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #48
I have no problem with "conservative" guests on a political talk show. Martin Eden Apr 2020 #42
Spot on splunge63 Apr 2020 #23
While Crenshaw is most certainly a Extremist Conservative Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2020 #28
in agreement that we shouldn't act like "them" stopdiggin Apr 2020 #30
Good point about location of injury Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2020 #35
"I am bothered by your comment about him being one-eyed." Martin Eden Apr 2020 #44
Bravo! May your Maher-abandoning decision spread to others. Paladin Apr 2020 #29
You had me at "smug prick." colorado_ufo Apr 2020 #33
This is what happens when you get your news and views from comedians. KWR65 Apr 2020 #36
His current format is really bad. Sophia_Of_PlanetX Apr 2020 #37
I usually catch his show. Sometimes he can be funny and sometimes not so much. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #38
Haven't watched Bill in years, and I happened to tune in last week because Al Gore was gonna... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2020 #40
I stopped watching. pwb Apr 2020 #41
+1. meadowlander Apr 2020 #43
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
1. Just watched. So true. He did not know his facts
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:31 AM
Apr 2020

To disprove Crenshaw lies. His whole attitude is confusing now. Think many of us are going batty.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
3. I turned him off last night less than half way through.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:35 AM
Apr 2020

I'm glad I didn't see the New Rules segment. I don't agree with him all the time, but he can be pretty funny on occasion.

How people can be so stupid that they don't understand the difference between flu deaths, car accidents, drownings, etc, which all never run the risk of overwhelming the health care system and a pandemic that results in killing the health care workers is beyond me. Maybe I get it because my professional life was spent as a hospital administrator.

We've had 37,000 deaths in one month! And if people disregard stay at home rules to run out and gather in groups and get face to face with each other, it's going to turn ugly really fast with multiple cities and states being overwhelmed with critical/hospitalized coronavirus cases.

I mean, when have you ever seen refrigerated trailer trucks backed up to hospitals to store the dead from flu, car accidents, and drownings?

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
4. Maher is not an ally
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

and never has been. Sure he agrees with us on many issues but. He is a bigot and a racist. He gives a platform to right wing liars and doesn’t call them out on their lies. He will also parrot GOP talking points to attack Democrats.

rso

(2,271 posts)
7. Maher
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:48 AM
Apr 2020

Indeed, he was actually kissing Crenshaw’s ass and even begged for Crenshaw’s approval of his (Maher’s) “credibility” with conservatives. But the monologue and especially new rules can be frequently very funny and on target.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
9. Yeah, he embraces Coulter like a friend and colleague
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:54 AM
Apr 2020

Instead of the poisonous lying banshee that she is.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
10. He provides perspective
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020

I canceled HBO after Game of Thrones but catch him on YT here and there. John Oliver is pretty good as well.

I do agree that the media is engaging in Panic Porn on the pandemic, despite it being as serious as it is.

There was a lady here in Charlotte who got infected despite being totally quarantined. The media were breaking down her door trying to get the scoop.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/charlotte-woman-hasnt-left-her-house-in-three-weeks-but-tested-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB12sjy4?ref=hvper.com

I'm surprised the media hasn't focused on the horrors of lung transplantation due to respiratory viruses yet. One of them will connect the dots and the rest will follow suit. Can't wait.

imanamerican63

(13,787 posts)
13. Here is what bothers me about him!
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:08 AM
Apr 2020

I get that the show is on HBO and the language can be vile, but he uses vile language in almost every sentence. To me that is not comic, that makes him an overbearing cussing loudmouth! I know he won’t clean it, so I quit watching that filth long ago!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
17. I'm astonished that everyone here didn't figure out years ago
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020

that he is essentially a right-wing asshole. Somehow he slips under the radar, and people think he's a liberal, but he's not.

JGug1

(320 posts)
25. Right-wng asshole?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

Bullshit. He is hardly right-wing and he isn't an asshole. Don't like him?
Don't watch him.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,853 posts)
34. I haven't watched him in probably 15 years.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:34 PM
Apr 2020

I'm able to be aware of his assholery because people here will alternately fawn over him and rage over him.

JGug1

(320 posts)
24. Self Important Prick
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:33 PM
Apr 2020

The man is a comedian, for god's sake.
He is supposed to be a self important prick.
Get over yourself.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
19. The world would be a better place if nobody had any time for assholes...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:20 PM
Apr 2020

... even if they are purportedly on your side. There are always people out there who are not assholes that could use your exposure, audience, business, etc...

dlk

(11,561 posts)
20. Too much smoking has affected his mental acuity & he's become intellectually lazy
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:25 PM
Apr 2020

More often than not, it’s his writers who are funny. I stopped watching him some time back after seeing his thinly veiled misogyny too many times. He frequently reminds me of a grumpy old man & needs to retire.

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
21. I believe I've watched him 2 or 3 times
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:32 PM
Apr 2020

Never saw what others liked about him. I certainly don't get why people care about his opinions. Just another gadfly

JGug1

(320 posts)
22. Bill Maher
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:32 PM
Apr 2020

You are making a mistake in blowing off Bill Maher. The reason that he is able to get
people, including conservatives, to come on his show is that, while he does ask some hard questions, he doesn't attack them. I think it is important to listen to people like the Repuke guest. This guy is immensely dangerous because he is a brilliant debater. Of course, his defense of the Republican's intense efforts to interfere with people voting, a defense that included saying "that's what they always say," was an absolute lie and I agree that Maher should have been able to point out that numbers of Republicans had not only admitted to that but bragged about it. While Crenshaw can debate very well, it might have been difficult for him to rebut Maher pointing that out. Sadly, he didn't. I do agree that he seemed weak in his discussion with Crenshaw. His show is not up to what it is with live guests present but it is still an entertaining hour.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
31. He doesn't have to attack them
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:21 PM
Apr 2020

but he doesn’t have to let them lie with impunity either. And he doesn’t have to parrot GOP talking points to attack Democrats.

Shermann

(7,413 posts)
39. What GOP talking points exactly?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

He owns a gun but doesn't make a big deal about it.

He's crass at times but that is his schtick.

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
42. I have no problem with "conservative" guests on a political talk show.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:10 PM
Apr 2020

What I object to is a host who is so over matched by such guests that he essentially provides a platform for their BS because Bill so often misses obvious points of fact and logic to refute the BS. One does not have to "attack" a guest to expose the flaws and falsehoods in their arguments.

I'm at the point where frustration and aggravation with Mr. Maher far outweighs what his guests and his humor have to offer.

I'm done with him.

Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
28. While Crenshaw is most certainly a Extremist Conservative
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

Who was mentored we under the likes of Pete Sessions, I am bothered by your comment about him being one-eyed. He was injured by an IED in Iraq and that is how he lost an eye. There are lots of reasons to dislike him but that isn’t one of them.

Let’s not act like them.

stopdiggin

(11,302 posts)
30. in agreement that we shouldn't act like "them"
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:03 PM
Apr 2020

I've always been uncomfortable with the idea that we should mirror (or exceed?) our enemies. And I'm dismayed that certain people in our camp seem more than comfortable with climbing into the cesspool. "We go low .." May I also point out that I don't see where this man received his disfigurement is particularly relevant? So .. if he had been injured in an auto accident, or in a childhood prank .. then it would be OK to mock his impairment? Likewise .. (IMO) serving in uniform then does not armor or inure someone from otherwise being a total sh*theel or lower form of life .. for the remainder of their span here on earth. With respect.

(and I'm pretty sure you're not "sucha" woman)
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Sucha NastyWoman

(2,748 posts)
35. Good point about location of injury
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:42 PM
Apr 2020

I would be just as bothered about it if they were the result of some type of domestic accident

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
44. "I am bothered by your comment about him being one-eyed."
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:12 PM
Apr 2020

Point taken, but it was just a quick reference. I couldn't remember his name and posted in a hurry before I had to do something else.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
29. Bravo! May your Maher-abandoning decision spread to others.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

Maher became an insufferable, liberal-bashing, right-wing-pandering jerk to me several years ago, and I haven't regretted giving up him and his sorry show one bit.

The rest of you need to quit contributing to Maher's ratings. He is no longer worthy of Democratic support.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
33. You had me at "smug prick."
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:31 PM
Apr 2020

Best description of him I have ever heard, although all the comments I read we're pretty much spot-on.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
36. This is what happens when you get your news and views from comedians.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:14 PM
Apr 2020

I have never liked liberal comedians trying to make fun of all politics. The life of people are being affected by policies and laws. People are dying because they can't get or afford health care, the poor are going hungry and homeless people suffer. There is nothing funny about any of this.

37. His current format is really bad.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:33 PM
Apr 2020

The fake crowd laugher is really annoying and awkward. John Oliver’s show, on the other hand, really hasn’t suffered at all.

TBH, I think his show would be much better if he had a conference meeting (like Web-Ex or Zoom) with the main guest, and then later a panel of three guests. Then, have the last guest join late. He could replicate his show with conference video software.

The current format really needs work.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
38. I usually catch his show. Sometimes he can be funny and sometimes not so much.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

You are free to either watch him or not but especially since I am stuck at home with nothing better to do I will probably keep watching.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
40. Haven't watched Bill in years, and I happened to tune in last week because Al Gore was gonna...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

be on. What a mistake that was. Bill is continuing the myth that Joe Biden is senile. He, obviously, was a big BS supporter, and was disappointed with the inevitable outcome of the Democratic primaries. This proved to me that Maher is just as big an a**hole as he ever was.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
43. +1.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:12 PM
Apr 2020

I've been saying for years, if you're going to invite white supremacists like Milo Yiannopolous on your show on the principal of free speech you have a moral obligation to win the argument on air. Otherwise you're just providing a platform for hate.

I'll tune in occasionally if someone posts a monologue or new rules that is particularly good but I can't remember the last time I sat through a whole episode.

Bill is just a provocateur who isn't anywhere near as smart as he thinks he is and that's a dangerous ally to have.

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