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kpete

(71,978 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:35 AM Apr 2020

We don't need endlessly increasing production.

@existentialcoms

Everyone is so obsessed with "the economy" that they don't realize that if production and consumption both drop together intentionally, it is fine. We don't need endlessly increasing production.

Only the capitalists and banks need that. Humanity would be fine with 30% less GDP.

Do the people who think we can't survive with a lower GDP not realize that we did in fact survive with a lower GDP at every other point in human history?

GDP does not need to continually rise.


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We don't need endlessly increasing production. (Original Post) kpete Apr 2020 OP
But the GDP also rises with population. MoonchildCA Apr 2020 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #2
So very much this...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #3
My family paid a Kentucky farm off early during the depression KentuckyWoman Apr 2020 #4

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
1. But the GDP also rises with population.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 10:50 AM
Apr 2020

The more people that need to work and be fed, etc., the higher the GDP. It should rise automatically with population growth.

Not arguing with his point that there is a huge imbalance, as too much of it is funneled to the top.

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KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
4. My family paid a Kentucky farm off early during the depression
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 11:01 AM
Apr 2020

corn squeezins were involved, but still.

The thing is they didn't pay too much attention to "the economy". They lived just like they always did. Yes, poor. But they ate, they had a roof that didn't leak. Yes the water was on a hand pump. Yes the facilities were outside. Yes the kitchen was powered by a wood stove... but, they had it much better than the people jammed into cities with no jobs.

That's the thing, very few Americans could do that now. The way Americans live has changed so drastically that few of us actually DO anything. We get paid to think, or decide or move info from this monitor to that one. I'm not saying those jobs don't have value, of course they do. But in a strained economy those that can actually make something, DO something are the ones who will manage the best.

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