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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:18 PM Apr 2020

So according to Cuomo it looks like the bottleneck for more testing is the reagents that are made in

... China and or held up by the federal government.

Looks like Trumps trade war with China is seriously killing Americans and the economy.

You'd think China would be happy to keep its customers alive.

The fact that we can't make reagents here in the US by now is in and itself criminal .

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So according to Cuomo it looks like the bottleneck for more testing is the reagents that are made in (Original Post) uponit7771 Apr 2020 OP
The US can't seem to make crap anymore, Capitalism forbids it, gotta find the cheapest supplier. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2020 #1
+1, at minimum we need a study on this. Can you imagine if we were attacked by another country? uponit7771 Apr 2020 #3
Yep, imagine if this were how we handled things during WWII!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2020 #9
Looks like we outsourced our health to China. Sneederbunk Apr 2020 #2
As well as India. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #4
Next time you go to buy something Igel Apr 2020 #6
"Buy local" is the correct wrapper and a better concept. MH1 Apr 2020 #10
International Reagent Resource Yonnie3 Apr 2020 #5
Nice thing about DU is, Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #7
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #8
The first to make a home test... lame54 Apr 2020 #11

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
3. +1, at minimum we need a study on this. Can you imagine if we were attacked by another country?
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:27 PM
Apr 2020

... we wouldn't be able to do shit in response looking at what's happening now.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. As well as India.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:30 PM
Apr 2020

The Capitalist Market Forces(Bazzianaires)sold our R&D to the Highest Bidder or cut sweet heart deals with Companies whom pay slave wages.

Damn,those Tariff's are sure paying dividends aren't they.

Igel

(35,309 posts)
6. Next time you go to buy something
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:46 PM
Apr 2020

and have a choice, buy the one made in the USA then.

(Such slogans have been branded as jingoist in the past, by the way, unless it was "look for the union label." When saying "buy American" it must be in the correct political wrapper.)

If it costs more, just remember you're supporting American industry and smile. Don't smile or don't buy the made-in-USA at whatever the price, you're rewarding the outsourcing brand *and* punishing the made-in-USA brand.

(Last time I played that game, I couldn't find any of what I wanted made in the US. It was China, Vietnam, or France. The French one cost more, but it wasn't a totalitarian regime I'd be supporting, so French it was.)


It's like the people who say how horrible it is to outsource--how un-American and greedy of the businesses. Then, next thread, they say that they live close to the Mexican border and go there for meds and treatment because it's so much cheaper. Amusingly, they don't see the irony that they object to others' doing precisely what they do, for the same reason. Which is suddenly not "greed" but simply being smart with money.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
10. "Buy local" is the correct wrapper and a better concept.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:39 PM
Apr 2020

Buy as local as possible, whenever possible.

What is "possible" will vary from person to person and from time to time.

But "as local as possible" means made in U.S. if that is the most local one can get.

If something just isn't made in the U.S. at all, then the question is whether we really need that thing. (and sometimes we will. Elect better politicians then.)

Yonnie3

(17,441 posts)
5. International Reagent Resource
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

I chanced across this yesterday while looking for reagent news.

I don't know how much flows through IRR

https://www.internationalreagentresource.org/About/IRR.aspx

From the home page:

Update: IRR is expanding the Catalog of COVID-19 diagnostic supplies

IRR is expanding the catalog of COVID-19 diagnostic supplies for registered state and local public health laboratories starting Thursday, April 9, 2020. The IRR catalog will include diagnostic platforms and consumables from additional manufacturers as well as swabs and transport media. Additional items will be added in the coming days. To prevent shipping bottlenecks, some reagents may ship directly to the requesting laboratory from the original manufacturer. Laboratories are encouraged to continue to order reagent quantities in line with their immediate testing needs while manufacturers' inventories are constrained.

Also Available:

The CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel was developed for qualified domestic public health laboratories to detect SARS-CoV-2. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) on February 4, 2020, to enable emergency use of the test kit in the United States. CDC has produced EUA and Research Use Only (RUO) test kits that are now available to order by domestic and international public health partners through IRR.


From the FAQ:
IRR

The International Reagent Resource (IRR) was established by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to provide registered users with reagents, tools and information for studying and detection of Influenza Virus. The IRR acquires, authenticates, and produces reagents that scientists need to carry out basic research and develop improved diagnostic tests, vaccines, and detection methods.Flu

Public health labs also use the reagents across the globe for the surveillance ATCCof newly emerging strains of Influenza, such as Influenza (H1N1) and (H5N1). By centralizing these functions within the IRR, access to and use of these materials in the scientific and public health community is monitored and quality control of the reagents is assured.

The International Reagent Resource is managed under contract by American Type Culture Collection (ATCC).

Please login to search the catalog for all available items. Scientists must be registered with IRR to request materials.


From the about IRR:

IRR

The International Reagent Resource (IRR) was established by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to provide registered users with reagents, tools and information for studying and detection of Influenza Virus. The IRR acquires, authenticates, and produces reagents that scientists need to carry out basic research and develop improved diagnostic tests, vaccines, and detection methods.Flu

Public health labs also use the reagents across the globe for the surveillance ATCCof newly emerging strains of Influenza, such as Influenza (H1N1) and (H5N1). By centralizing these functions within the IRR, access to and use of these materials in the scientific and public health community is monitored and quality control of the reagents is assured.

The International Reagent Resource is managed under contract by American Type Culture Collection (ATCC).

Please login to search the catalog for all available items. Scientists must be registered with IRR to request materials.
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Nice thing about DU is,
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:10 PM
Apr 2020

we have the smartest people in the World hanging out here. Old Dummies like me learn from the Yonnie's on this board.

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