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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:30 PM Apr 2020

Florida Beaches Packed As Trump Urges People To Break Quarantine

Jacksonville, FL Beachgoers Don't seem at all concerned with the number of coronavirus deaths and cases on the rise ... because they hit the sand Friday and packed in like sardines. It's a crazy sight, as the sun worshipers took their chances by getting in close contact with other beachgoers.

President Trump is clearly encouraging people to break quarantine, with Tweets like, "LIBERATE MICHIGAN," "LIBERATE VIRGINIA," and "LIBERATE MINNESOTA." He's clearly dog-whistling, because he threw in this ... "And save your great 2nd Amendment."

Not hard to read between the lines ... he's telling his stalwarts to ignore the advice of doctors, scientists, their governor and mayor, because they're Americans dammit. Florida currently has 24,066 confirmed coronavirus cases and 726 deaths ... and counting.

Jacksonville's mayor, Lenny Curry, celebrated the trek to the beach saying, "This can be the beginning of the pathway back to normal life."



https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/18/florida-beaches-coronavirus-packed-trump-break-quarantine/

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Florida Beaches Packed As Trump Urges People To Break Quarantine (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 OP
Why is trump not out mixing with his people, hugging and shaking hands? Walleye Apr 2020 #1
Why hasn't he gowned up and visited a couple of hospital's ICU's?!??! Cousin Dupree Apr 2020 #20
no gown even needed. this is all a hoax. Rethugs are tellnig us there is no one even at the Takket Apr 2020 #21
why isn't DeSantis? onethatcares Apr 2020 #24
Good question Walleye Apr 2020 #28
I think Trump should be out there in swim trunks and shirtless LeftInTX Apr 2020 #31
Oh god, there's an image my mind's eye can't unsee Walleye Apr 2020 #34
That would scare me off the beach! nt ooky Apr 2020 #35
And the rest of America!!! LOL LeftInTX Apr 2020 #36
I guess... Newest Reality Apr 2020 #2
Arrogant Stupidity thrives. And there are children being willingly exposed Guilded Lilly Apr 2020 #3
More body bags will be needed. Texaswitchy Apr 2020 #4
Masks and gloves cause tan lines Bayard Apr 2020 #5
. Crunchy Frog Apr 2020 #6
Natural selection is a real thing SoonerPride Apr 2020 #7
Dr(s) FAUCI & BIRX, time to cut SHITLER loose. Where are you? UTUSN Apr 2020 #8
The Navy has 3 major installations in the area ornotna Apr 2020 #9
What this person said BeyondGeography Apr 2020 #10
Increased vitamin d may help immune systems delisen Apr 2020 #11
This is a NOVEL virus. The is NO immunity to it. Lochloosa Apr 2020 #12
There must be some resistance Ex Lurker Apr 2020 #27
Not everyone getting the virus will die. Lochloosa Apr 2020 #30
Out of the nearly 400 guests tested, 146 tested positive for Covid-19, according to O'Connell. LeftInTX Apr 2020 #33
both of the pictures in this string show a good bit stopdiggin Apr 2020 #13
hey...Go for it!! stillcool Apr 2020 #14
Having fun at the expense of other lives. Is that a price you are willing to pay? Doodley Apr 2020 #18
I must be looking at different photos mcar Apr 2020 #29
Florida is filled with seniors. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author onethatcares Apr 2020 #26
This makes me so mad! FM123 Apr 2020 #16
Guess we'll find out what happens when a region does not one damn thing. tanyev Apr 2020 #17
I'm hoping these are locals and the virus WhiteTara Apr 2020 #19
Point to the curve for Florida Igel Apr 2020 #23
Florida's COVID numbers should start rising faster than the weather thermometer. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #22
Probably Trump supporters Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #25
Looks like ..Star Trk, please, what movie or ep? Stuart G Apr 2020 #32
6 Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #37
Somehow I'm doubting that their hospitals can handle this.. lindysalsagal Apr 2020 #38

Takket

(21,555 posts)
21. no gown even needed. this is all a hoax. Rethugs are tellnig us there is no one even at the
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 05:11 PM
Apr 2020

hospitals!

LeftInTX

(25,244 posts)
31. I think Trump should be out there in swim trunks and shirtless
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

As part of his re-election campaign!!!

It will work wonders...for Biden

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. I guess...
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:34 PM
Apr 2020

I guess that in about two weeks or so, we should see how well that worked out.

Are they going to get the hospitals ready and fully supplied for the new influx? Probably not.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread. Awards are due!

delisen

(6,042 posts)
11. Increased vitamin d may help immune systems
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:50 PM
Apr 2020

Of the beachgoers but others with whom they interact in daily life may still be endangered by them.

Ex Lurker

(3,812 posts)
27. There must be some resistance
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 06:31 PM
Apr 2020

Call it immunity or something else. Otherwise it would be 100% fatal which it clearly is not

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
30. Not everyone getting the virus will die.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

But, anyone exposed to the virus will get sick to some degree. It may be just a scratchy throat or days in the ICU.

Immunity implies having antibodies to fight off an infection. No one had that at first. That's what the Novel means.

stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
13. both of the pictures in this string show a good bit
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 04:03 PM
Apr 2020

of distancing. (and of course distancing doesn't apply to people that live under the same roof. so, couples, kids, families.)

But for the purists that want social distancing to mean "not if your having any fun" and want to be outraged. Hey .. have at it!

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
14. hey...Go for it!!
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 04:11 PM
Apr 2020

I have no problem at all, with people having fun any way they want. Thankfully I live in a state where science is valued,...but have a blast!!

mcar

(42,301 posts)
29. I must be looking at different photos
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:18 PM
Apr 2020

Those beaches are packed with people. Not 6 ft apart.

Do you live in Florida? I do, inland on the west coast. My sister is in a beach community on the East Coast south of Jacksonville.

The hospitals here are not prepared for this. How many people got infected there today? How many are bringing it home to their loved ones, the grocery workers (if they are stupid enough to go to the beach, you can bet they are going to the grocery store, hardware store, gas station, etc. not wearing any protective equipment and not washing their hands).

I'd rather spend some time not having "fun" and being alive to attend my son's wedding next year.

Response to guillaumeb (Reply #15)

FM123

(10,053 posts)
16. This makes me so mad!
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 04:23 PM
Apr 2020

Down here in South FL (where it's blue) we are sheltering in place on lockdown during the day and on curfew at night. And up north in the red counties they want to open up the beaches? Seriously, these guys are gonna get us all killed...

Igel

(35,300 posts)
23. Point to the curve for Florida
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 06:24 PM
Apr 2020

where either positive tests, hospitalizations, or deaths spiked because of spring break. https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en

The best you get is a small increase in the death toll in the late 3/20s, but it's a small bump after a dip, so it might be a real bump or just displaced reporting of deaths. The bump, however, flattened almost at once. The "blood bath" didn't happen.

Same for spreading the SARS-CoV-2 virus nationwide. You can trace individual cases back to spring break, but making the claim that they had any significant effect in other areas is a stretch. We can point to some stories with a total of perhaps 50 people in them, usually groups that travelled together, hung out together, and travelled back together. In some cases, because of the timeline, almost certainly with at least one of the group infected prior to break. Overall, small potatoes. Useful more for confirming a bias than making a convincing argument.

We need to blame spring break, though, or somebody, for the Miami area's infection rate and death toll. And spring break's a convenient excuse.

Places with active spring-breaking other than Miami didn't show much of an increase. Perhaps 5-6 more deaths than expected, if that much. And Miami's death toll, much less than the prophets of doom predicted, can be accounted for by most of the causes for other metroplexes. In other words, delete spring break and you probably wouldn't see much of a difference. Otherwise you have to argue that spring break in Miami was special, and the other factors that slammed other large cities didn't apply there--two special pleadings to account for what no special pleading would accomplish.

I consider the spring-break bloodbath prediction failed. Other predictions about impending disaster might turn out to be true. Or just wishful thinking on the part of some. But I don't forget the predictions or assume that since nobody said they failed that they were accurate. People tend not to point out failed predictions; and people tend to forget that teammates made predictions that failed.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
22. Florida's COVID numbers should start rising faster than the weather thermometer.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

This photo reminds me of those typical scenes in SciFi movies where the earthlings are released from the spaceship upon return to Earth.




lindysalsagal

(20,666 posts)
38. Somehow I'm doubting that their hospitals can handle this..
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

If I were a fla hospital worker, I'd be out there screaming at them with a bullhorn.

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