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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:54 AM Apr 2020

Progressives look for concession from Biden with running mate

Progressives want to extract a concession from former Vice President Joe Biden with his pick for a running mate after they failed to push one of their own to the top of the Democratic 2020 ticket.

Biden, a centrist who bested more liberal rivals such as Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren on his way to becoming the presumptive nominee, has already vowed to tap a woman as his vice presidential pick. Several advocacy groups told The Hill that tapping a progressive to share the ticket would go a long way in signaling to the party's left flank that he takes them — and their policies — seriously.

“Joe Biden absolutely has to pick a progressive champion as his VP pick. He has to unify the party, and that’s the key,” Charles Chamberlain, head of Democracy for America, told The Hill. The former vice president has consistently touted a moderate platform and campaigned on a return to normality, a stance anathema for progressives who demanded a “political revolution” to push the nation forward.

Some liberal voters are still smarting over the defeats of Sanders and Warren, and a coalition of eight progressive groups sent the former vice president a letter with a list of policies they demand he adopt if he wants their support.

Prominent Sanders supporters have already vowed to withhold their support for now, citing Biden's reluctance to adopt key progressive platforms. Briahna Joy Gray, who was Sanders’s national spokeswoman, emphatically declared this week: "I don't endorse Joe Biden."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/493307-progressives-look-for-concession-from-biden-with-running-mate-pick

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Progressives look for concession from Biden with running mate (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 OP
Well, that'll get Trump re-elected... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #1
Is anyone that refuses to endorse Biden still a Democrat? dem4decades Apr 2020 #2
Then, Breee-ahhh-nah, may I suggest you fuck off and shut the fuck up? CurtEastPoint Apr 2020 #3
These people are not about winning elections, forwarding policy - just stoking their base empedocles Apr 2020 #8
ptogressives have a simple choice. elect biden or elect trump, if they don;t get that, beachbumbob Apr 2020 #4
Biden is a solid, PROVEN liberal, not a "centrist." Hortensis Apr 2020 #5
Had BS prevailed in the primaries, aka-chmeee Apr 2020 #6
I am sick to death of Bernie and his so called Progressives. Be yourself Joe. katmondoo Apr 2020 #7
Progressives are on board with Biden. It's the far left who want concessions, despite their decisive beastie boy Apr 2020 #9
Democrats, independents, and even some republicans have chosen their candidate. George II Apr 2020 #10
Bernie's fringe needs to stop whining and grok that they lost. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #11
So, they still have not read his platform, or read his Liberal record, or heard a word he's said? Hekate Apr 2020 #12
Losers don't dictate terms. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #13
More futile Trump generated division. Yawn. Generic Brad Apr 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #16
"concession from Biden" LakeArenal Apr 2020 #15
Post removed Post removed Apr 2020 #17
How is it that people do not get it that if they... 3catwoman3 Apr 2020 #18
Please. Whoever Biden picks will be more progressive than anyone on the Fascist ticket. nt ooky Apr 2020 #19
... mcar Apr 2020 #20
NO... they Lost Big Time. Joe Biden will Choose his OWN VP.. Cha Apr 2020 #21
Let's aim to win. I think we need centrist conservatives. struggle4progress Apr 2020 #22
Did the Japanese insist on concessions from the US when they surrendered in 1945? George II Apr 2020 #23
"Did the Japanese insist on concessions ..." left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 #28
Trump played to the hard-core religious right with his selection of Pence rather pampango Apr 2020 #24
It won't work in this case...we need the same coalition that one the house more than we need a Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #25
The party is unified against Trump Renew Deal Apr 2020 #26
The party was unified against Herbert Hoover in 1932. Thank goodness we got FDR instead pampango Apr 2020 #27
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. ptogressives have a simple choice. elect biden or elect trump, if they don;t get that,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 09:59 AM
Apr 2020

fuck them. I can not say it any clearer. Biden will choose who HE THINKS is the best VP and right now, its Harris.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Biden is a solid, PROVEN liberal, not a "centrist."
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:04 AM
Apr 2020

The Hill serves Republicans. No to posting RW lies and propaganda without pointing them out for what they are.

VP Biden has an almost 50-year record that shows beyond any possible doubt that HE has always been a Left-Of-Center liberal. As am I and other liberal Democrats here.

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." Maybe not, but Sanders is allied with us now, which I notice this contemptible article carefully avoids mentioning.

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
6. Had BS prevailed in the primaries,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:09 AM
Apr 2020

Would the "progressives" be contemplating adopting more moderate positions to placate the mainstream Democratic Party? I think not. They would be secure in the knowledge that the "Party" would do what is necessary to remove the tumor killing the nation. If the people had wanted the farther left agenda, BS would be the nominee. Why should Biden have to become the candidate he defeated (soundly, I might add) to satisfy people who, at least in part, claim to be willing to vote for the tumor rather than the cure?

beastie boy

(9,274 posts)
9. Progressives are on board with Biden. It's the far left who want concessions, despite their decisive
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:25 AM
Apr 2020

loss in the Primary race. Biden is sure to pick a progressive VP nominee, there is no doubt about it, and no concessions are needed for that. Prominent Sanders supporters can keep throwing tantrums and hold their breaths until they turn blue, it's not going to make any difference. They have no credibility or leverage left.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,656 posts)
11. Bernie's fringe needs to stop whining and grok that they lost.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 10:59 AM
Apr 2020

“Joe Biden absolutely has to pick a progressive champion as his VP pick. He has to unify the party, and that’s the key,” says some guy. In fact, Joe Biden doesn't have to do shit because (a) he's a progressive, just not delusional, and (b) the party is already unified, which was demonstrated by the fact that Biden won the primaries decisively because the actual Democrats voted for him.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
12. So, they still have not read his platform, or read his Liberal record, or heard a word he's said?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:08 AM
Apr 2020

And they won't endorse the clear winner of the Dem primaries, when the alternative is Trump?

Then these "progressives" are useless as allies, aren't they? They must, on some level, be satisfied with what Trump is doing to destroy this nation. There's your "revolution" -- complete with body count and the destruction of institutions.

And when they stand on the rubble in 2024, then will they think their point has been made sufficiently?

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
14. More futile Trump generated division. Yawn.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:13 AM
Apr 2020

Not buying the premise. The very few who are demanding concessions in exchange for their vote have no credible political clout anyway.

Response to Generic Brad (Reply #14)

LakeArenal

(28,809 posts)
15. "concession from Biden"
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:16 AM
Apr 2020

That is unbelievable.
The loser makes concessions.
The loser is supposed to supplant and concede their loss to the victor.

Joe isn’t demanding anything from them but unify the country against trump. The need to choose.

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

3catwoman3

(23,965 posts)
18. How is it that people do not get it that if they...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

...don’t get off their purity high horses and fail to get Joe Biden elected, there wil be NO Democratic agenda items acted upon - progressive, moderate or otherwise.

Wake Up, purists!

Let this icon symbolize me banging other people’s heads against a wall -

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Did the Japanese insist on concessions from the US when they surrendered in 1945?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:04 PM
Apr 2020

This kind of stuff (not from you) really annoys me. Sanders was beaten soundly, and he conceded before it became a rout. In some ways I wish it had gone on to the end to REALLY show what Democrats and the American people think, although I'm glad it's over for the sake of Americans' lives.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
28. "Did the Japanese insist on concessions ..."
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:14 PM
Apr 2020

I think the only thing they got,
whether they asked for it or we let it happen,
was to keep the Emperor and that he would not be prosecuted,
although their form of government became a democracy, as it is today.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
24. Trump played to the hard-core religious right with his selection of Pence rather
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

than make a play to the middle. Actually VP selections are often used to solidify the base then the presidential candidate can campaign towards the middle.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
25. It won't work in this case...we need the same coalition that one the house more than we need a
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:30 PM
Apr 2020

a small number of super left voters...who may or may not turn out. We need geographical balance on the ticket...go for states like Georgia or Texas...appeal to the Mid West..electoral college win.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
27. The party was unified against Herbert Hoover in 1932. Thank goodness we got FDR instead
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:37 PM
Apr 2020

of just anyone who could beat Hoover. If the party is already unified, the choice of VP is not determinative. Should we still play for the 'voter in the middle' or solidify our base?

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