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underpants

(182,626 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:20 PM Apr 2020

*BOOM* Americans at WHO transmitted real-time info about coronavirus to Trump admin

Americans at World Health Organization transmitted real-time information about coronavirus to Trump administration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/americans-at-world-health-organization-transmitted-real-time-information-about-coronavirus-to-trump-administration/2020/04/19/951c77fa-818c-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html


More than a dozen U.S. researchers, physicians and public health experts, many of them from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, were working full time at the Geneva headquarters of the World Health Organization as the novel coronavirus emerged late last year and transmitted real-time information about its discovery and spread in China to the Trump administration, according to U.S. and international officials.

A number of CDC staffers are regularly detailed to work at WHO in Geneva as part of a rotation that has operated for years. Senior Trump-appointed health officials also consulted regularly at the highest levels with the WHO as the crisis unfolded, the officials said.

The presence of so many U.S. officials undercuts President Trump’s charge that the WHO’s failure to communicate the extent of the threat, born of a desire to protect China, is largely responsible for the rapid spread of the virus in the United States.


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*BOOM* Americans at WHO transmitted real-time info about coronavirus to Trump admin (Original Post) underpants Apr 2020 OP
The song says it all DonaldsRump Apr 2020 #1
K&R, and it looks like Trumps NSC transmitted warnings to Israel last November uponit7771 Apr 2020 #2
Well well well underpants Apr 2020 #3
From TimesOfIsereal.com, I don't know if they're a reliable source uponit7771 Apr 2020 #7
Left-center bias, highly factual reporting jayschool2013 Apr 2020 #17
👍 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #23
Thank you Delphinus Apr 2020 #36
"in REAL TIME .. as the novel coronavirus emerged LATE LAST YEAR" dalton99a Apr 2020 #4
Yup. And everything after that is a distraction. Budi Apr 2020 #5
I'm all for "stopping" him, but who's going to do that? Texin Apr 2020 #27
you stop trump by destroying RW radio monopoly to force GOP senate to dump him certainot Apr 2020 #31
YES to the tenth power!!!!!!!! Tumbulu Apr 2020 #39
This... LovingA2andMI Apr 2020 #49
The US Intelligence Community briefed tRump about the outbreak in January. So he did the opposite Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #6
Jared was advising him that it was just bad PR underpants Apr 2020 #9
republicans exaggerated ebola in oct 2014 and got 9 senate seats and bunch of congress certainot Apr 2020 #38
I don't really think that was the main reason for their gains. underpants Apr 2020 #44
that's because democratic leaders and media had/have no clue what RW radio is doing or certainot Apr 2020 #47
Trump is even responsible for contamination of the covid19 test kits. Blue_true Apr 2020 #40
I've understood that Redfield just wasn't able to administer an agency that big underpants Apr 2020 #42
He is a Trump asskisser. Trump viewed the CDC as somewhat useless, Blue_true Apr 2020 #46
And he fired the entire Pandemic Response Team Obama had put in place. Budi Apr 2020 #10
That firing/disbanding was 2018. He fired the med-scientists in China who were watching in 2019 Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #11
Yes. Thank you for correcting that. It was the scientists working in China Budi Apr 2020 #19
And I bet he moved the money to his Wall Mexico was paying for... Captain Zero Apr 2020 #24
He also let go the critical group of researcher that were working with Chinese researchers Blue_true Apr 2020 #41
I heard he doesn't read intelligence briefings. subterranean Apr 2020 #29
One page summary, most of which mentions how great and smart he is. Blue_true Apr 2020 #43
So FUBAR ok_cpu Apr 2020 #8
In. Real. Time. onecaliberal Apr 2020 #12
Republicans have selective memories . . . Iliyah Apr 2020 #13
K; R CatWoman Apr 2020 #14
The thing is that Trump only listens to his Trump family and friends. LiberalArkie Apr 2020 #15
Color me surprised--not! pandr32 Apr 2020 #16
Kick & recommend for visibility of truth bronxiteforever Apr 2020 #18
Impeach and convict. Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #20
Republican senators won't convict him. They will see accounts of MAGATS protesting and shit Blue_true Apr 2020 #45
I'm shocked. Scarsdale Apr 2020 #21
Surprise! surprise! Trump is lying about CV-19 and WHO. An irresponsible maniac! Article 25 NOW! usaf-vet Apr 2020 #22
All his nasty derelictiion of duty vlyons Apr 2020 #25
They failed to hit him over the head with a frying pan. hay rick Apr 2020 #26
What ... Trump lied??!!! Martin Eden Apr 2020 #28
He knew. He did nothing. He WANTED this pandemic. not_the_one Apr 2020 #30
Well; some of us will see. EarthFirst Apr 2020 #32
We've reached the point at which everything our Presidunce says can safely asssumed to be a lie Major Nikon Apr 2020 #33
This... LovingA2andMI Apr 2020 #50
I hope someone asks him this at today's malaise Apr 2020 #34
I don't see any point in any reporter or news organization Ilsa Apr 2020 #35
Oh but they were China-centric Americans Blue Owl Apr 2020 #37
BUSTED! oasis Apr 2020 #48

jayschool2013

(2,311 posts)
17. Left-center bias, highly factual reporting
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:02 PM
Apr 2020
That's the analysis of this media watchdog site.

In review, The Times of Israel covers Israeli and regional news with minimally loaded language such as this: US envoy suggests world should rethink PA aid after Israeli teen killed by bomb. This particular story relies on Twitter as the primary source. In another story, Ex-Iraqi PM warns Israel of ‘strong response’ if it proves to be behind strikes, the primary source is the New York Times. The Times of Israel also relies on news agencies for content such as the Associated Press and the Jewish Telegraphic Agency.

The website also features a blog with a wide variety of writers. The blog posts tend to use more emotional wording and are generally opinion oriented. A review of several blog post indicate a left leaning editorial bias with articles such as this: What Trump really (maybe) meant by calling Jewish Democrats ‘disloyal’. When covering the Israeli-Palestinian conflict they usually are objective and cover both sides fairly, such as this: IDF strikes fresh Hamas targets after 2nd rocket fired from Gaza Strip. In general, the Times of Israel is factual with a slight left leaning editorial bias.

A factual search reveals they have not failed a fact check.

Overall, we rate the Times of Israel Left-Center biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record. (D. Van Zandt 12/5/2016) Updated (8/23/2019)
 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
5. Yup. And everything after that is a distraction.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Apr 2020

True evil grows more evil with power. Look what Hitler became. Remember the evil he committed before the world was finally made aware. It's the same thing as what's going on with Trump.
He has to be stopped.



Texin

(2,590 posts)
27. I'm all for "stopping" him, but who's going to do that?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

I'm increasingly more worried by the minute that we we're not going to have a GE this November. I know constitutionally he couldn't do that legally. Who would stop him? None of the retrumplicans in the Senate would. They had a chance and took a pass. The 25thA could be invoked, but his cronies in cabinet-level posts won't support that. As I see it, there's only one way he'd be stopped and that would be because of a mortal infection, a physical catastrophe or by mayhem. I'd settle for any one or all of these, frankly.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
31. you stop trump by destroying RW radio monopoly to force GOP senate to dump him
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

GOP senators know they cant maintain anything close to majority without their talk radio advantage. most know they can't win without it. it also keeps them all in line, with limbaugh leading the way for his friend and co-putin tool trump,

not only does the ad industry have to think about a talk radio future without limbaugh (with lung cancer) they need to realize artificial intelligence-enhanced transcription and monitoring makes a stoprush x 100 inevitable.

it wouldn't take much activism before the ad indusrty would have to force the break up of the monopoly

without all those locally coordinated radio stations to make excuses for the trump asskissing they've been doing they're doomed.

they'd stop being afraid of limbaugh and trump and some of them would revolt and try to take back their party from the putin/limbaugh/trump teabags

it wouldnt take many

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,961 posts)
6. The US Intelligence Community briefed tRump about the outbreak in January. So he did the opposite
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:35 PM
Apr 2020

Because he hates the IC. He smirked and said to himself: "I'll show you!"

underpants

(182,626 posts)
9. Jared was advising him that it was just bad PR
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:39 PM
Apr 2020

As was reported a few weeks ago.

Trump owned himself thinking he was "Owning the Libs". He can't get out of the spiral now. This latest report erases (in the real world) anything he thought he could get out of the CDC contamination report yesterday.

When. Did. You. Know. It. all over again.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
38. republicans exaggerated ebola in oct 2014 and got 9 senate seats and bunch of congress
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:00 PM
Apr 2020

- all through oct 2014 mueller subject jerome corsi wrote every day about it at World Net Daily and limbauagh used it more than a dozen times, and then it all stopped after the election - why the fuck doesn't the media put 2 and 2 together?

if it worked then why not for covid? at some level they convinced the orange idiot, who referenced ebola back then for some reason, that it would be better than the 2019 congo ebola they were going to use (rw radio, llimbaugh were ramping it up and prepping their teabag dittoheads, they were overcrowding the detention camps, talking about congolese immigrants joining 'caravans') and the fucking orange idiot was too stupid to realize it was 1000x as complicated and harder to control

where the fuck is media? ddem investigators also need to look into it

underpants

(182,626 posts)
44. I don't really think that was the main reason for their gains.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:42 PM
Apr 2020

I just don't remember Ebola really being that big of a midterm campaign issue.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
47. that's because democratic leaders and media had/have no clue what RW radio is doing or
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

what republican or russian think tanks are pumping out of 1500 coordinated radio stations 15 hrs a day to 50 mil a week

dems don't even poll for it and usually only know what's going on after it shows up, sometimes weeks and months later on fox - and then they laugh at it

if limbaugh gives it that much time it's important, not because maybe he thought it was important, but because he was prompted to push it

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Trump is even responsible for contamination of the covid19 test kits.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:23 PM
Apr 2020

He fired the very (or had resign, whatever) competent CDC head that President Obama had in place and put in a person like Redfield. My guess is that Redfield increasingly made the CDC headquarters a hellish place to work for any truly competent person. The people assigned to the WHO likely had been there for a while fore filling their roles, they may have left for those roles under President Obama, if such roles work like high level business assignments. Redfield and Trump pulled a key group of CDC scientists out of China in 2019, a literal canary in the coalmine group.

underpants

(182,626 posts)
42. I've understood that Redfield just wasn't able to administer an agency that big
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:41 PM
Apr 2020

and he's not the personality to stand up in the midst of the power struggles in the White House.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. He is a Trump asskisser. Trump viewed the CDC as somewhat useless,
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:51 PM
Apr 2020

even after it performed well under President Obama in the fights against H1N1, Zika, the seasonal Flu, and Ebola.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
10. And he fired the entire Pandemic Response Team Obama had put in place.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:45 PM
Apr 2020

Just 2 months before the world 1st knew of COVID-19.

Of course he knew, but he saw an opportunity that served his appetite for power, in some form or other.

Money. Position. His need to be an equal among the world dictators he admires so much.


Bernardo de La Paz

(48,961 posts)
11. That firing/disbanding was 2018. He fired the med-scientists in China who were watching in 2019
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:48 PM
Apr 2020

I think it may be latter you are thinking of.

Regardless, in both events it was sabotage from within, by Donny Little Hands.

Captain Zero

(6,785 posts)
24. And I bet he moved the money to his Wall Mexico was paying for...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020

wanna bet?

Not that it ever bought a brick for that wall..;

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. He also let go the critical group of researcher that were working with Chinese researchers
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:39 PM
Apr 2020

in China. You know, the group of people that relayed back to the White House that they had concerns about some of the practices in that lab? Trump likely didn't want to start a tiff with a dictator who he admires, so he let that team go instead of confronting Yi about the problems that American researchers were reporting.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
29. I heard he doesn't read intelligence briefings.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

He only has the attention span for a one-page summary with bullet points.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. One page summary, most of which mentions how great and smart he is.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:42 PM
Apr 2020

63 million people thought that such a clown could lead this country, those people are the main problem, many will be with us causing harm after Trump is gone, you see them now, protesting sane policies and going to beaches with covid19 raging around us.

ok_cpu

(2,045 posts)
8. So FUBAR
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:37 PM
Apr 2020

And not even a good political decision:

1. Be transparent and take the lead
2. Rally the country around an effective public health response
3. Rally Congress around a comprehensive economic support plan
4. Ride the increased approval into the election

Every choice his clown show makes is wrong and everything he touches turns to crap.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
13. Republicans have selective memories . . .
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:51 PM
Apr 2020

If they lie all the time, their cult always believes them. shithole tells them they are immune to COVID-19 and to protest saying they want to work, meantime, corporations to further their profits while many get sick, and some die. fake news (Murdoch) feeds the lies constantly right in front of his cult while other more truthful media outlets breakdown the facts.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
15. The thing is that Trump only listens to his Trump family and friends.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 12:55 PM
Apr 2020

So it is very true that he never heard about it and neither did his immediate circle.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
45. Republican senators won't convict him. They will see accounts of MAGATS protesting and shit
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:47 PM
Apr 2020

their shorts.

Any attempt to impeach him again will simple backfire politically on our side, even if fact back impeachment. We simply need to get past our differences and vote as a group to remove him from office.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. I'm shocked.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

SHOCKED I tells ya. Not really. He was busy golfing and rallying to concern himself with trivial matters like viruses that nobody can SEE. Maybe if they had put a price tag on how much it would cost to ignore this pandemic he would have acted?

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
25. All his nasty derelictiion of duty
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

and criminal depraved indifference will come out eventually. There WILL be a special commission to investigate this debacle after Biden gets sworn in.

I just hope that there are criminal indictments for at lease manslaughter by depraved indifference. Please please please don't pull a Jerry Ford and give Trump and his creepy sycophants "let's move on" pardons. This cannot be swept under the rug.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
30. He knew. He did nothing. He WANTED this pandemic.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

He thinks he is going to use it to win the election, steal the election, or cancel the election. Win/Win/Win for him.

Do the democrats have what it takes?

We'll see. Or not.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
33. We've reached the point at which everything our Presidunce says can safely asssumed to be a lie
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 03:19 PM
Apr 2020

The truly scary part is while you are wondering how anyone can believe this utter shitstain of a human being, someone you know repeats these things as if there's even one iota of truth to them.

That's when you realize the GOP isn't a political party anymore, it's literally a cult. It's a cult that simply repeats lies over and over until its adherents know them by heart and will simply repeat them without any critical thinking. It's a cult that actively seeks to stamp out any and all voices of dissent, no matter how trivial, even from within their own cult.

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
50. This...
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 11:36 PM
Apr 2020
That's when you realize the GOP isn't a political party anymore, it's literally a cult. It's a cult that simply repeats lies over and over until its adherents know them by heart and will simply repeat them without any critical thinking. It's a cult that actively seeks to stamp out any and all voices of dissent, no matter how trivial, even from within their own cult.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
35. I don't see any point in any reporter or news organization
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 03:24 PM
Apr 2020

covering a live briefing. Just look for any worthwhile news and play only that part of the video. The rest is political garbage.

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