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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,972 posts)
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:01 PM Apr 2020

'Heartbroken' Obama 'eager' to help Biden defeat Trump in election

Former President Barack Obama seems "very eager" to help ex-Vice President Joe Biden defeat President Trump.

Obama insiders reportedly expect the former president to campaign for Biden during the remainder of 2020, though he previously did not have confidence in the former vice president's ability to win the election.

“He is very eager to do this,” a former senior Obama official told the New York Post. "I certainly expect President Obama to be very active.”

Sources continued to say that Trump's presidency has left Obama "heartbroken," listing the federal government's response to the coronavirus pandemic as a reason for a change in leadership. “The coronavirus disaster and the [federal] government’s inability to lead on it is searing in his brain … more than anything else Trump has done,” a second insider told the New York Post. “Obama is generally heartbroken by the Donald Trump presidency.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/heartbroken-obama-eager-to-help-biden-defeat-trump-in-election/ar-BB12QihE?li=BBnb7Kz

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'Heartbroken' Obama 'eager' to help Biden defeat Trump in election (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
The Man Should Start Now, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #1
You are 100% correct ,Sir. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #4
I think his greatest flaw.. stillcool Apr 2020 #7
Being black isn't a flaw in any way! Groundhawg Apr 2020 #9
it is in this country stillcool Apr 2020 #14
Thank you. Solomon Apr 2020 #16
we'll never know. Pillow talk Apr 2020 #24
I Would Not Have Phrased It Quite That Way, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2020 #27
Please whathehell Apr 2020 #31
I did not say a 'human being'.. stillcool Apr 2020 #33
A distinction with little difference whathehell Apr 2020 #34
I mostly agree, Judge DarthDem Apr 2020 #10
It Is A Flaw, Sir, Only a Good And Decent Man Could Display The Magistrate Apr 2020 #12
Great point, Judge DarthDem Apr 2020 #22
quite true. Pillow talk Apr 2020 #23
Oh HELL yes! dchill Apr 2020 #26
I saw his endorsement qwlauren35 Apr 2020 #2
Yesssssssssssss! Miigwech Apr 2020 #3
It will be Grand.. and as Pres Obama knows.. We're all Heartbroken! Cha Apr 2020 #5
Well said, Cha! DarthDem Apr 2020 #11
Aloha & Mahalo to you, DarthDem! Cha Apr 2020 #13
Seems we are fighting the Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #6
The heartbreak must be particularly intense for him moonscape Apr 2020 #8
Really.....Why now...? Crazyleftie Apr 2020 #15
Same, Mr. President. BadgerMom Apr 2020 #17
Anyone who truly loves America .... Martin Eden Apr 2020 #18
You can see it in Obama's face. cilla4progress Apr 2020 #19
When the last real president starts going after tRump it will drive the orange blob to break more yaesu Apr 2020 #20
A good man treestar Apr 2020 #21
All bets should be off, Dems electors should pick whoever can beat Trump hands down. If Obama Pepsidog Apr 2020 #25
As are we all. zentrum Apr 2020 #28
This article just pissed me off. tavernier Apr 2020 #29
You're Right Tavernier. People Should Chill. This is From the Tabloid NY Post. Indykatie Apr 2020 #30
An angry Obama would be a game changer Red Mountain Apr 2020 #32

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
1. The Man Should Start Now, Sir
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:08 PM
Apr 2020

His greatest flaw as President was not taking his de facto role as Party leader seriously. Our system is for better or worse an adversarial one, and depends for proper function on each side fighting its corner to the utmost. Opposing 'partisanship' simply cedes the field to the opposition.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

Boomerproud

(7,952 posts)
4. You are 100% correct ,Sir.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:15 PM
Apr 2020

I kept wondering (if these quotes are true) when he was going to get angry andpassionate enough to speak and act out. BTW i and many thousands of Americans have been heartbroken for almost 4 years.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
7. I think his greatest flaw..
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:24 PM
Apr 2020

was being a black man, expecting to be treated with common decency in the United States. I hope he waits for forever. This country is not safe for him or his family, nor does it deserve them.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
16. Thank you.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:18 PM
Apr 2020

I get a little sick of the Obama should have played the angry man meme. White men can be angry, uncouth, threatening, obnoxious, rude, etc. Yeah it really would have worked if Obama had been the angry black man.

Not.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
27. I Would Not Have Phrased It Quite That Way, Sir
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:18 PM
Apr 2020

But there is certainly something to your point. There were, and probably still are, constraints on his behavior that owe to societal expectations and biased norms. Mrs. Clinton certainly encountered this as well in her campaign. There are forms of forceful behavior it seems are 'white men only' still in our society.

My criticism is not aimed at a lack of forcefulness or restraint in expression of anger. A President can move a good deal in the favor of his Party without making much noise about it. Indeed, there can be value in talking about 'ending partisanship', so long as you are actually being extremely partisan in practice.

The thing to be avoided particularly is negotiating with yourself, trying to figure out what your opponent will accept, and making that your initial offer. It is something reasonable people do, and when dealing with reasonable opponents it can work. But when opponents are not reasonable, they will take this 'best offer' as indicating they can make you give up even more than you already have. And if you are not willing to walk away with a 'take it or leave it, it's all the same to me', they will succeed. It is better to pitch your initial offer sky-high, and make the opposition work for even the slightest concession, the least moderation of your position.


"Defeat of a hated enemy is something to be for."

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
31. Please
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:53 PM
Apr 2020

The United States not only treated Barack Obama "like a human being", they elected him to its highest office. No need for exaggeration.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
34. A distinction with little difference
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 08:33 PM
Apr 2020

Being elected to the presidency twice seems rather "decent" to me..Please back at you.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
10. I mostly agree, Judge
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:38 PM
Apr 2020

It's highly unpopular to say so around here, and it's in tension with how wonderful, empathetic and smart Obama is, but he made a serious mistake by thinking he could work with Republicans who would never, ever, ever work with him. And never did. Worse, after experiencing that in the bruising fight to enact the ACA, Obama stopped engaging with the domestic arena. Of course, there were limits on what he could do thanks to Democratic campaign misadventures leading to the elections of so many Republicans.

That tide has now turned. Many of those Republicans are now out of government. More are on their way, including some who perhaps don't know it yet. It's a great time for Obama to step up, help Biden into office, and help remedy the do-nothing-for-others, for-profit, narcissistic scourge that is modern GOP orthodoxy.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
12. It Is A Flaw, Sir, Only a Good And Decent Man Could Display
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:41 PM
Apr 2020

It falls within the classic definition of tragedy.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
22. Great point, Judge
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:44 PM
Apr 2020

You're quite right. I had not thought of it that way. Tragic indeed. But less so by far if he now understands.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
2. I saw his endorsement
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

on Facebook a few minutes ago. With about EIGHT stupid ads. He calls out the Republican party very clearly. Corruption, carelessness, self dealing, disinformation, ignorance, just plain meanness.

That's what we're fighting.

Roll up your sleeves and get to work.

Cha

(297,207 posts)
5. It will be Grand.. and as Pres Obama knows.. We're all Heartbroken!
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:18 PM
Apr 2020

There were times it looked like VP Biden wasn't going to "win".. it was a rollercoaster.. But WIN he did and BIG!

Thank You Voters in all those States! with Thanks to James Clyburn, Jannie Jones, Pete Buttigieg, and Sen Amy Klobuchar, too!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Seems we are fighting the
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:22 PM
Apr 2020

ancient rule of when Campaigns officially start . This is not 1969,time to get this show on the road and capture every single moment.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
8. The heartbreak must be particularly intense for him
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 04:29 PM
Apr 2020

considering all the hours and hours and energy he put in to those 8 years, and preparedness, only to have everything thrown into the trash and put on fire.

I cannot imagine.

Crazyleftie

(458 posts)
15. Really.....Why now...?
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

Obama, except for his campaign rhetoric, has been somewhat of a milquetoast guy. Where has he been the last three years??? I appreciate his sudden interest, but he needs to go out and kick some ass, and not some mild statements of how poor a job Trump has done. And not just about the virus situation, but EVERYTHING Trump has done (which is one reason the impeachment failed....because of ONLY TWO articles of impeachment, when there should have been MANY MORE!!)

Martin Eden

(12,865 posts)
18. Anyone who truly loves America ....
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

... should be heartbroken over what Trump and his deplorable supporters are doing to it.

cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
19. You can see it in Obama's face.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

I would say more stricken, than only heartbroken.

Unlike the orange menace, you know he holds himself accountable. That he should have done more in '16 to expose drumpf. He couldn't have known the extent to which the Rs would go along with drumpf's satanic plan.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
20. When the last real president starts going after tRump it will drive the orange blob to break more
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 05:39 PM
Apr 2020

laws, call out his 2nd amendment nutjobs, I think president Obama may need extra protection from the tRump crime family.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
25. All bets should be off, Dems electors should pick whoever can beat Trump hands down. If Obama
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:13 PM
Apr 2020

is worried about Biden then I am terrified.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
29. This article just pissed me off.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:31 PM
Apr 2020

What do I care what rump speculates. He lies over and over and over, and yet these articles keep quoting him.
And the Post? Give me a break.

Indykatie

(3,696 posts)
30. You're Right Tavernier. People Should Chill. This is From the Tabloid NY Post.
Sun Apr 19, 2020, 06:53 PM
Apr 2020

I call bull sh*t on Obama thinking Biden couldn't beat Trump. Polls always showed he'd be competitive against Trump. That he didn't do well in the first 3 races 2 of which are caucuses is a different matter. I hope Dems wake up and change the Primary calendar and do away with caucuses.

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