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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:23 PM Apr 2020

Crude Oil has gone NEGATIVE!

U.S.: Nymex
Crude Oil WTI (NYM $/bbl) Front Month

Last Updated: Apr 20, 2020 2:09 p.m. EDT
Delayed quote
$-1.43 -19.70 -107.83%
SETTLEMENT PRICE 04/17/20 $18.27


There’s nowhere to store the stuff

They’ll be shutting off spigots soon I’d imagine?

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Crude Oil has gone NEGATIVE! (Original Post) Roland99 Apr 2020 OP
The guy at the station offered me $10 if I filled my tank! n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #1
lol Roland99 Apr 2020 #3
$1.24 here. n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ahoysrcsm Apr 2020 #60
How much of that is taxes? N/T forthemiddle Apr 2020 #45
+1 KayF Apr 2020 #12
Any tweets from Don the winner Con? malaise Apr 2020 #2
Marketsm@ 2:20 elleng Apr 2020 #4
Thanks for looking that up for me... lame54 Apr 2020 #5
It's nice without all the chem trails. zackymilly Apr 2020 #8
Isn't it? Roland99 Apr 2020 #9
Yes it is! nt. Akacia Apr 2020 #64
Time to call those shady waste disposal people exboyfil Apr 2020 #7
Trump gets played by the Saudis and Russians. DrToast Apr 2020 #10
Trying to rent or buy.... OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #11
$-35.93 SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #13
Why haven't they shut down trading? Roland99 Apr 2020 #15
I don't think they do that for oil SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #22
Is that per bbl or the daily loss from yesterday's close? Roland99 Apr 2020 #24
Now I'm seeing $-25.11 SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #28
Here's a link to CME quotes SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #36
Thanks Roland99 Apr 2020 #46
-8.61/bbl!! Roland99 Apr 2020 #14
Now minus ten & change OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #16
All because a Dem *hoax shut down the nation Roland99 Apr 2020 #18
Sounds to me like Texas may be in play for Biden. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #17
If nothing else, Wednesdays Apr 2020 #67
Contract traders can't deliver Turbineguy Apr 2020 #19
Whoa .. did silver go negative because treasuries were putting out so much? uponit7771 Apr 2020 #26
There are two markets Turbineguy Apr 2020 #38
Was that when the Hunt brothers were trying to corner the market? Adsos Letter Apr 2020 #47
Yes Turbineguy Apr 2020 #53
? Reminds me of Eddie Murphy movie where he was made rich for a dollar uponit7771 Apr 2020 #57
"Get back in there and sell, sell!" Adsos Letter Apr 2020 #58
Trading Places Roland99 Apr 2020 #65
What????? Newest Reality Apr 2020 #20
Does that mean they'll be giving it away? Renew Deal Apr 2020 #21
Storage sites are full Roland99 Apr 2020 #23
Even better they are paying people to take the pure oil per barrel uponit7771 Apr 2020 #27
K&R, I'm trying to figure out how to short June contracts right now uponit7771 Apr 2020 #25
Do I hear minus 30? anyone? OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #29
do I hear minus $40? OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #34
Interesting times (nt) Recursion Apr 2020 #30
Whoa! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #31
-39.14/bbl!!!!! Roland99 Apr 2020 #32
NYT explains how this is even possible Mike 03 Apr 2020 #33
Trump could fill his tower C_U_L8R Apr 2020 #41
Awesome, in for 10 barrels. Wonder if my wife will mind if I store them in our spare bedroom... cbdo2007 Apr 2020 #35
Ask the local rec dept.... OneBlueDotBama Apr 2020 #39
OMFG BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #37
That graph is incredible. OAITW r.2.0 Apr 2020 #48
Brent was still over $25/bbl BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #51
We should be adding to our strategic reserve right now....... lastlib Apr 2020 #40
we are actually doing that, but the SPR is tiny compared to the glut we have right now Amishman Apr 2020 #55
Ok. Starting a GoFundMe. Who wants to buy oil fields with me! Roland99 Apr 2020 #42
Dennis Gartman on Bloomberg just used the D word. roamer65 Apr 2020 #43
U.S. oil's May contract just marked history, plunging about 300% BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #44
Slowly creeping back up again BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #49
Yeah. But now stocks heading down Roland99 Apr 2020 #52
I've been watching gold too BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #54
If one is going to buy on the dip, it doesn't seem like it gets any dippier than it is now Submariner Apr 2020 #50
Now back down to -$30.40/bbl BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #56
Had bottomed out again at -$37.45 and creeping back up again BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #59
The Gang Solves the Gas Crisis...nt SidDithers Apr 2020 #61
As of 3:43 pm EDT BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #62
Insane Roland99 Apr 2020 #63
From what I just heard on the local news radio station's business report BumRushDaShow Apr 2020 #66

Response to zackymilly (Reply #6)

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
10. Trump gets played by the Saudis and Russians.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:27 PM
Apr 2020

One cent a barrel oil. Trump gets played by the Saudis and Russians. Just like China. The job losses will be massive. Turns out having a dumb narcissist as President could not be more dangerous to America. -- David Plouffe.




OneBlueDotBama

(1,381 posts)
11. Trying to rent or buy....
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:28 PM
Apr 2020

as many old tankers as I can, will park them at my inlaws farm till the price goes back up. <extreme sarcasm>

It's cheaper to sell/pay people to take your oil than shut down wells. Where they will put it....????
Cushing OK is full, all the rail tamk cars are full and you can't find an empty oil tanker to store the stuff. Maybe after Trump got rolled by Putin & the house of Saud, he will return the hospital ships, Mercy & Hope back into oil tankers.

SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
22. I don't think they do that for oil
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Apr 2020

Not sure though.

I'm looking at front month contract oil futures prices from my broker.

Now I'm seeing $-35.20

Turbineguy

(37,295 posts)
38. There are two markets
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:42 PM
Apr 2020

one market is for people who buy and sell oil (oil producers and oil consumers). Another market is for people who buy and sell contracts. In the second case people buy contacts to sell later at a higher price. They are not buying oil. The worst thing that could happen is for them to get the actual oil. Also the worst thing for them is to have to deliver that oil.

When the silver market collapsed my friend had bought a pile of silver and for delivery. The seller could not deliver and had to buy the contract back.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
20. What?????
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:34 PM
Apr 2020

Woah.

These are futures, but I look forward to going to the gas pump and getting paid for filling up.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
23. Storage sites are full
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

The worldwide slowdown has cut massively into usage

And Putin/MBS still going at it

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
31. Whoa!
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:39 PM
Apr 2020

Republicans will probably argue that it can’t be given away, or people will expect that in the future — e.g, “Just dump it in an ocean.”

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
33. NYT explains how this is even possible
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:40 PM
Apr 2020

(I've never seen this)

It was a bizarre day for oil traders, owing largely to a quirk in the way that oil prices are set. Oil that is scheduled to be delivered next month fell 12 percent Monday to about $22 a barrel, but at the same time a key benchmark for oil to be delivered Tuesday was essentially deemed to be worthless by investors. It actually fell into negative territory, meaning people who had oil to sell were willing to pay people to take it off their hands.

The problem is that the United States is running out of places to store its oil.

Oil is already being stockpiled on barges out at sea, and in any nook and cranny companies can find in their storage facilities. Now, traders are worrying that even this space is running out. Under futures contracts, West Texas Intermediate — the American oil-price benchmark — is delivered to Cushing, Okla., but investors are worried that there will be no place to put it there.


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/business/stock-market-live-trading-coronavirus.html#link-a677d6a

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
35. Awesome, in for 10 barrels. Wonder if my wife will mind if I store them in our spare bedroom...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:41 PM
Apr 2020

until I get the refinery set up in the back yard.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,296 posts)
48. That graph is incredible.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:59 PM
Apr 2020

It's like the world just ended.

On a bright note, Putin is going to be mighty busy dealing with the fallout as Russia's economy is focused on selling oil.

BumRushDaShow

(128,515 posts)
44. U.S. oil's May contract just marked history, plunging about 300%
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 02:50 PM
Apr 2020
U.S. oil's May contract just marked history, plunging about 300% to settle negative $37.63 a barrel
Published: April 20, 2020 at 2:37 p.m. ET

By Mark DeCambre

U.S. oil's May contract plunged into negative territory on Monday, meaning that you would have to pay to get someone to take barrels of oil off your hands. West Texas Intermediate oil trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange plunged nearly 300% to settle at negative $37.63 a barrel. The May contract expires CL.1, -231.36% CLK20, -231.36% Tuesday. That one-day drop marks the first time the contract has traded negative in history and would be the largest tumle on record going back to 1983, while a finish near its current level would be far below the previous all-time low for a front-month contract, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The June contract CLM20, -16.86% which is the most-active, ended down $4.60, or 18.3%, at $20.03 a barrel.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-oils-may-contract-has-just-gone-negative-plunging-154-and-trading-at-negative-10-a-barrel-2020-04-20?mod=mw_latestnews

BumRushDaShow

(128,515 posts)
54. I've been watching gold too
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

(because that tends to tell you how much worth the dollar has...or doesn't have

BumRushDaShow

(128,515 posts)
66. From what I just heard on the local news radio station's business report
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 04:00 PM
Apr 2020

the -$37.63 was what that contract settled for - had the article here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13319685

(obviously they are still trading though )

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