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(34,195 posts)
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:24 PM Apr 2020

Trump warned by conservative allies he has one month to salvage his re-election

According to a report from Politico, conservative allies of Donald Trump are advising him to move quickly on pushing the re-opening of the country as soon as possible to satisfy his base and, thereby, salvage his re-election prospects. According to one influential conservative, President Trump has one month to either win or lose the November presidential election.

“Trump aides and allies say they are growing confident that an earlier restart amid the coronavirus pandemic could help the president in his reelection campaign, according to six people close to the White House or Trump campaign. They point to emerging signs around the country. Trump-supported activists are protesting strict stay-at-home orders. Conservative groups’ internal polling in red-leaning and swing states show a significant uptick in Americans who favor reopening the country. A growing chorus of Republican lawmakers across the nation are on board.”

As Adam Brandon, president of FreedomWorks, explained, “If you don’t see something start to happen … you’re going to see a conservative revolt by our base. The worst strategy for him is to keep things shut until August. Trump is basically going to win or lose his election right now, in the next month.”

“A swift economic restart, however, could backfire politically for Trump if it causes a flare up. Public health experts caution that the country currently lacks the robust testing capacity needed to relax social-distancing guidelines, and cases in many states have yet to peak,” Politico’s Anita Kumar wrote ...

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-warned-by-conservative-allies-he-has-one-month-to-salvage-his-re-election-report/

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Trump warned by conservative allies he has one month to salvage his re-election (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2020 OP
"if" it causes a flareup? renate Apr 2020 #1
Don't you understand... PCIntern Apr 2020 #3
It's Only A Few Cases sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #10
Makes me want to vomit, fast as a comet... nt PCIntern Apr 2020 #16
"It'll just wash away.....wash away" Budi Apr 2020 #28
That shows one of the big differences between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #27
They conflate an opening up of these retails sites with a speedy economic rebound SoonerPride Apr 2020 #2
Exactly. I, for one, am not about to let my guard down on Trump's say so. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #18
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #29
Yeah, right. SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #4
He already has the Freedumbers in his pocket underpants Apr 2020 #12
... or they're gonna sing his praises a little less louder? lol@BunchaPunkAzzes uponit7771 Apr 2020 #5
"A swift economic restart, however, could backfire politically for Trump if it causes a flare up." CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2020 #6
In a just world, there would be no re-election bid to "salvage".... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #7
"An uptick"? Of course they see that. JHB Apr 2020 #8
'him' doesn't get to make that decision; fortunately elleng Apr 2020 #9
Magical thinking. Body bags equal Victory, like the Vietnam War? That went well. Hekate Apr 2020 #11
Here is what will happen: Salviati Apr 2020 #13
In other words..... A HERETIC I AM Apr 2020 #21
They think this is a PR issue that can be "won" by "framing and messaging." stopbush Apr 2020 #14
Adam? sheshe2 Apr 2020 #15
"You're going to see a conservative revolt" that FreedomWorks will be sponsoring. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #19
The governors and mayors don't report to Donald Trump. dalton99a Apr 2020 #17
Why aren't they worried about lots more people dying and what kind of effect THAT will have? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #20
All they're looking at are the numbers... JHB Apr 2020 #30
so he is dead no matter what scarytomcat Apr 2020 #22
Actually, I think he knows that. sheshe2 Apr 2020 #25
"salvage re-election" - sames as what his FRIEND Piers MORGAN wants. UTUSN Apr 2020 #23
He shit the bed in February and now has to sleep in it. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #24
An ugly thought Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #26
For the GOP history is NOT to be learned from. sdfernando Apr 2020 #31
You mean after all this time these goons haven't learned there's two rules in Trumpistan? Hugin Apr 2020 #32

renate

(13,776 posts)
1. "if" it causes a flareup?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

Literally, how could it not?

His reluctance to pull every possible string to make tests available is inexplicable. That's the only way things reopen without a second spike. Magical thinking didn't work the first time--it's not going to work the second time.

Maraya1969

(22,478 posts)
27. That shows one of the big differences between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:24 PM
Apr 2020

do not learn from their mistakes.

"If there is a flare up"

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE A FLARE UP! That is how the science of epidemiology works! Do they believe in magical thinking or are they just too damn dumb to know?

And before this....

They nominate one village idiot who nearly destroys the country, causes over 1 million deaths by starting wars with 2 countries that never attacked us and sends us into a recession and then the next time.............They nominate another village idiot who is nearly destroying the country and causes thousands of deaths and probably sends the country into a recession.


SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. They conflate an opening up of these retails sites with a speedy economic rebound
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:27 PM
Apr 2020

and that ain't happening.



Oil is in negative territory.

People don't have excess disposable income.

Many won't go anywhere anyway because they feel unsafe.

And now many more people will die.

Rs up and down tha ballot are going to be wiped the fuck out.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. +1000
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:29 PM
Apr 2020

Sometimes it just amazes me how stupid and short-sighted they are. They think like little children. If they just wish and hope hard enough, their dreams will come true! It's pretty much how they approach everything.

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
4. Yeah, right.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

He's been doing his stupid 'press conferences' day in, day out, and they haven't helped one bit, other than to highlight just how grossly incompetent he really is.

Stupid is, as stupid does.

Idiots, all idiots (everyone of them, rump, cronies, allies, etc.) all contributed to the mess we're in now, and are acting like stupid headless chickens, running around aimlessly.

underpants

(182,776 posts)
12. He already has the Freedumbers in his pocket
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

At this point he has no prayer of expanding (the afternoon blunderstorms are a disaster) and his only hope is serious voter suppression

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,588 posts)
6. "A swift economic restart, however, could backfire politically for Trump if it causes a flare up."
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

Ya think?

Sure as hell it would cause a flare-up.

Might burn up the whole campaign effort.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
7. In a just world, there would be no re-election bid to "salvage"....
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:28 PM
Apr 2020

Trump should be toast, and I plan to try to make sure he is.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
8. "An uptick"? Of course they see that.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:30 PM
Apr 2020

Trump, Fox, OAN Rush, etc. constantly push that line. And the Republican base are pros at falling into line.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
11. Magical thinking. Body bags equal Victory, like the Vietnam War? That went well.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:31 PM
Apr 2020

Dear gods I hate these people.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
13. Here is what will happen:
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:32 PM
Apr 2020

Sensible (i.e. Democratic) Governors will not allow the states to open prematurely. They will follow the best practices advice given by public health experts, and the example of the 1918 pandemic. There will be some irresponsible red state republican governors that will open up too early and we will inevitably see a spike in infections and deaths. It seems inevitable that this is what is going to play out.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,366 posts)
21. In other words.....
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:54 PM
Apr 2020

70% of the populations of AL, MS, AR, ND, SD, WY, MT, ID, NE, IA, and OK and probably FL will very likely be exposed at the very least, and hundreds of thousands will get sick, and thousands more will needlessly die.

That's the way I see it playing out. I said yesterday that I think the total deaths from this will number over a half million in this country.

We have utterly forgotten "United We Stand".

It has morphed into "I'm going to do what I want, and fuck you guys!"

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
15. Adam?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:39 PM
Apr 2020
As Adam Brandon, president of FreedomWorks, explained, “If you don’t see something start to happen … you’re going to see a conservative revolt by our base. The worst strategy for him is to keep things shut until August. Trump is basically going to win or lose his election right now, in the next month.”


Oh, Adam? No problem, we will see something in the next two-three weeks. The virus is going to come roaring back and your base will be dead or dying. Good Job!

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
20. Why aren't they worried about lots more people dying and what kind of effect THAT will have?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 05:54 PM
Apr 2020

I think most people would forgive a President for a bad economy due to circumstances like these beyond his/her control. It's weird that they don't think that bodies piling up wouldn't, you know, be bad for his re-election. Or are they thinking that, having done a slapdash and, frankly, pathetic job at responding to just the first wave of the crisis, that, once states "re-open" that that's the end of the story and any further deaths are just on the governors?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
30. All they're looking at are the numbers...
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:36 PM
Apr 2020

...in their stock portfolios.

These are people who believe in Divine Right... the Divine Right of money.

UTUSN

(70,683 posts)
23. "salvage re-election" - sames as what his FRIEND Piers MORGAN wants.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:02 PM
Apr 2020

For some reason much was made here over Piers ranting about how SHITLER (& BoJo) aren't demonstrating admirable traits of leaders in WW II.

Yet Piers addressed "Donald" directly, saying that he could salvage the re-election if he magically starts doing those admirabe trait things.

And Piers ranted that this is not a time to play politics, yet didn't notice he was linking "leadership" to *salvaging the re-election" - which is not only politics, but CYNICAL politics, doing things JUST to win an election.

He and the usually good guy STELTER from Reliable Sources (Piers is a reliable source?!1) completely skipped over that SHITLER's complete unfitness existed *before* the current crisis and will always be there, their committing the same fallacy as many have done from Day 1, which is, hoping he will "grow" and change and BE SOMEBODY ELSE.







GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
24. He shit the bed in February and now has to sleep in it.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:06 PM
Apr 2020

Had he been a real president he would have prepared everyone, including his nuts that this could be a BFD and we may have to take drastic actions.

Instead he created the belief in his shit-for-brains followers this is all a hoax or a conspiracy to bring him down. So he has no good options left.

Keep doing what science calls for and see his base explode or open early and see death sweep over the nation. Or at least the red states that will open up ASAP and let the virus run rampant.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
26. An ugly thought
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:18 PM
Apr 2020

The impact to urban and rural areas could be different. New York City was likely impacted disproportionately because of population density and mass transit.

Trump is an idiot and evil. Other republicans are just evil. Not saying there is a plan but that type of thinking could be influencing decisions.

As an economic plan it’s stupid. The economy won’t improve without cities. Morally it’s repugnant to weigh lives by rural versus urban.

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
31. For the GOP history is NOT to be learned from.
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:40 PM
Apr 2020

All they have to do is look back to the 1918 flu pandemic. A spike was reached and then restrictions were relaxed...then a larger spike ensued because people didn't want to go back to the behaviors that were working and saving lives. Countless thousands more died that could have lived because of it.

But no!....we can't learn from history, that is a fool's errand according to the GOP.

Hugin

(33,133 posts)
32. You mean after all this time these goons haven't learned there's two rules in Trumpistan?
Mon Apr 20, 2020, 06:57 PM
Apr 2020

Rule #1: Nobody tells the Trumpenhuffer what to do.

Rule #2: Everything King Shat Midas touches goes to crap.

So, basically they're screwed.

However, this does explain the wide scale AstroTurf we've been seeing for the past couple of days.

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