Trump's Stay At Home Order Protests Have Completely Backfired

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

The survey, conducted April 17 to April 19, found that a full 60 percent of the public opposes the largely pro-Trump protesters whose calls for governors to “liberate” their states by lifting lockdown measures have attracted intense media attention in recent days — and whose message the president amplified Friday in a series of all-caps “LIBERATE” tweets about three swing states: Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia.
Only 22 percent of Americans say they support the protesters. Despite Trump’s messaging, even Republicans oppose the protests 47 percent to 36 percent. Asked whether they agree or disagree with Trump’s “LIBERATE” tweets, only a quarter of Americans say they agree.

To read more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/04/20/trumps-stay-at-home-order-protests-have-completely-backfired.html

In the contest between sanity and Trump, sanity is winning. And this should show us that Trump's supporters may be loud, and they may get media coverage, but Trump's open insanity is having an effct.

[uponit7771]

1. Good, they're loud and small

[meadowlander]

3. Now stop pointing cameras at them

and starting pointing them at actual medical and scientific experts.

[guillaumeb]

6. They are media friendly.

The media prefers pictures of loud people rather than analyzing actual issues.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. Yeah more ad dollars in eyeballs watching stupid people be stupid than smart people being smart. nt

[guillaumeb]

21. Exactly. eom

[coti]

39. Well, sure, we can't get our own DUers to stop watching his daily propaganda nt

[lagomorph777]

50. That's depressing. I have changed the channel every time the Hate Pumpkin appears

since 2016.

[Brother Mythos]

48. You nailed it!

[guillaumeb]

8. Much like Trump himself? eom

[SMoss]

32. Un-Christian thought

10% of those protesters are carrying the virus. They are passing it to their other terminally stupid compadres. There will be fewer of them soon. Some people are too stupid to live.
MF45's base will be a lot smaller, dying off by Nov.

[uponit7771]

33. +1, God didn't call us to do the openly stupid thing ... his grace

[calimary]

41. Welcome to DU, SMoss.

I heard a report this morning citing a community in Kentucky that saw a spike in cases after a protest.

Perhaps this will have an effect on their numbers. I'm actually hoping some of those idiots will come around, once they contract the disease, assuming they recover, of course.

In my totally amateur observations of human nature I've learned that it's VERY hard for people to admit they were wrong. NOBODY wants to do that, and they'll often have to be forcibly shoved forward by almost literally being kicked in the ass. NOBODY wants to admit they were wrong, much less that they've been HAD. Because then, that means they have to admit they were complete fools. It's mighty hard to admit that. Redemption doesn't come easy. Never has.

[subana]

55. exactly!!

in March, Jennifer Rubin wrote an article saying that more republicans than democrats are likely to die from the virus. Certainly the virus does not have a preference (between republicans or democrats) but because republicans seem to prefer less restrictive policies, they are more likely to spread the disease.

JENNIFER RUBIN, WASHINGTON POST: There is a particular cruelty/irony that it is their core viewers, the Republican older viewers, who are the most at risk.

And when you think about it, which party immediately canceled all of their rallies? Which party immediately started having their political figures really portray and use their lives as an example? It was the Democrats.

So, I hate to put it this way, but there will be less Democratic deaths because there will be less mass gatherings, there will be less opportunities for people to congregate and share this horrible disease. So it is really a very short-sighted strategy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/15/jennifer_rubin_more_republicans_than_democrats_will_die_of_coronavirus_because_right_wing_media_is_downplaying_threat.html

yesterday I saw a similar article at dkos that says 30% more republicans than democrats will die from the virus for similar reasons.

To the extent Republican governors are hesitating to declare strict containment measures for political reasons, it will eventually become clear that they got the politics exactly backwards: instituting stricter measures early-on would have helped keep their most loyal voters alive.

But neither “Republican governors” (for the most part) nor Donald Trump paid any attention to this basic fact. Probably because they, just like their constituents were too busy soaking up the happy lies on Fox News.

It’s clear that “social distancing” measures reduce the fatality rate from COVID-19. It’s equally clear that reducing those efforts would result in more infections and deaths astronomically across the board. But by pushing his sycophants in GOP statehouses to relax “social distancing” measures to fight off the COVID-19 pandemic, and by urging his followers to rebel against those measures in so-called “swing states,” Trump is not only proposing killing more Republicans, he’s also (literally) killing his chances of re-election.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/18/1938440/-Republicans-are-30-more-likely-to-die-from-COVID-19-than-Democrats-due-to-age-and-health

So for the past several years, it has become obvious that white people are diminishing as a block of voters & blocks of brown voters are increasing. Republicans now realize they need every white voter they can find. And now, because of their belief that everything will be ok if they try to live life as normally as we used to with few restrictions, they are killing off the few voters who still want to vote for them!

[Turbineguy]

2. It's a bit of a giveaway

when your dupes show up with guns and teabagger paraphernalia.

[guillaumeb]

4. It worked for the GOP in 2010.

But in 2020, I cannot believe that it will work again.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

35. It worked in 2010 (I suspect)

because they were an opposition party to President Obama who, for them (and for no good reason), was a galvanizing lightning rod for the Republicans, whom shamelessly exploited the Tea Party to help rebound from the W. Bush years, even though it helped elevate a new loony breed of Republicans which paved the way for Trump. How does Trump, the current President of the country, benefit from an insurrection against states- of which he is the President? Yeah, he can try to bully and intimidate- by proxy- States Governors he doesn't like, but, none of the Governors whom are being attacked by Trump and his protestors are inherently unlikable and are actually quite popular and the protesters may make them MORE popular and turn more of the state's population against them- and Trump. Trump needs states like Whitmer's and Wolf's and Walz's to have a shot of winning in November, which may not happen if he turns most of the people there against him. And that's not even to discuss how he has repeatedly shortchanged states (almost certainly purposefully) with Democratic Governors. Republicans live there too but they may not blame the Governors but actually blame Trump.

[guillaumeb]

42. Trump is looking for someone to blame for his own failure.

And the fact that 37% support him shows that 37% of voters will be fooled by this con man, and fooled repeatedly.

But polling also shows that most voters, including GOP voters, support the shutdown. In my view, motivation is key, and if 2018 was an indicator, 2020 will show Trump losing, and the GOP losing the Senate as well.

And if that happens, 37% of voters will blame the deep state, or President Obama, or HRC, or the media. Or all of the above in a unified conspiracy theory.

[Cha]

5. Yay, Sanity! Who knew!?

[guillaumeb]

7. Who could have imagined?

Stay safe, Cha, and stay sane.

[Cha]

10. Trying, guill..

so trying.. you, too!

[guillaumeb]

12. I have the safe part down.

At least for now. As to the sane part, I will update you on that.

[Cha]

14. I know what you mean.. I am

able to go out and run everyday.. otherwise.. omg.

And, Thank Goodness for DU & Netflix, right?

[guillaumeb]

16. We are doing 8-9 miles a day.

And I garden. And yes, I love DU, and this virtual community, especially as I can not meet with my progressive friends in this area yet.

[Cha]

23. Wow.. you must feel great with all that

running! The more I run the better I feel.

[guillaumeb]

27. Agreed. The exercise high is addictive. eom

[Cha]

30. And, necessary.

[SheltieLover]

9. Right?

Muhalo, Cha!

[Cha]

11. Aloha, Sheltie..

Chalk one up for Sanity!

[SheltieLover]

17. LOL

Aloha! There is that factor: sanity! 😁👍

[klook]

13. Freedumb isn't free.

It's just dumb.

Glad to read this -- hope they run out of steam before too much longer. They really look like assholes compared to the nurses and doctors who'll try their damnedest to save their sorry hides no matter what stupid shit they pull.

[guillaumeb]

15. Could more people finally see that Trump is a lunatic?

One can hope that his 37% core will diminish.

[sheshe2]

18. He and his cult are delusional and very, very dangerous.

[guillaumeb]

20. Yes they are.

But they are a minority, and id these numbers continue, Trump's core of cultists might begin to shrink. Trump cannot do anything other than continue to be himself. His lunacy is hard to deny.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

22. Change the channel and send emails every time the dumbasses are shown on tv.

Email advertisers, too.

[BigDemVoter]

24. Thank god.

I am really pissed at the MSM. . . I probably sound like a fucking repig ragging on the press, but I am so tired of the free ride they give Pussy-Grabber and his minions. One would think just from watching this shit with no objective commentary that these people rule the country. . . Well, I guess in a sense they do, as Pussy-Grabber is squatting in the WH right now. But what I really mean is one would think that this is the predominate mood of the entire country. . . They pulled this shit with the fucking teabagger movement way back when, and it's happening again.

[guillaumeb]

28. But in 2010, with Obama as the President,

not enough Democrats voted. I feel that 2018 was a foreshadowing of what 2020 will be.

[CaptYossarian]

25. I support the protesters.

They really need to French kiss each other to show how committed they are to the cause.

A real hero would die for their beliefs. Let them all be heroes (in time for November).

As far as medical heroes, there's a cardiologist (Murdock?) in Wausau WI who was seen at the Sean Duffy rally and he's been suspended indefinitely by the clinic.

And if Duffy catches the CV, his baby #9 has a bad heart (pre-existing condition) and could possibly die. That's the baby that LIBERATED my district from Duffy when he stepped down for family reasons.

[Xipe Totec]

26. Everything that Trump touches dies. Even Astroturf. nt

[guillaumeb]

29. Astroturf might look better on his head. eom

[Blue Owl]

31. 60% of our USA population is about 200 million people

Looked like there were no more than a few hundred Branch Covidians at each event.

Put these fuckers on "ignore."

[Ahpook]

34. I watched a Youtube livestream

from one protest in Vegas. The few people attending started to badger the live streamer as to why he is wearing gloves and a mask. They honestly think this whole thing is a international plot to fuck up Trump and scare tactics.

It is unreal how those fucking rubes got so twisted.

[guillaumeb]

43. Many US citizens do not believe in climate change, or evolution.

So this latest example of ignorance should not be surprising. These people will not believe unless a close family member dies. And then they will blame the doctors, or anyone but themselves.

[subana]

57. to them it's just another conspiracy theory!

but this conspiracy theory will kill them! Their habit of believing in fantasy conspiracy theories & ignoring reality is killing them every day!

[PoliWrangler]

36. Minnesota is nOT a swing state.

Despite our resident population of misled fox propaganda cultists, they are outnumbered and Minnesota votes.

[guillaumeb]

44. Welcome to DU, and this conversation.

The right has been pushing memes like "the silent majority", and "the moral majority" for many years. As a consequence, these fringe voters truly think that they are, in fact, the majority.

[GulfCoast66]

37. They may have finally jumped the shark.

In a lame attempt to reincarnate the tea party movement they right wing tried this bullshit.

Too stupid to realize the many differences. Not going to bring them all up because the elephant in the room is a pandemic that could kill someone you love. Even my republican coworkers are really taking it seriously.

Almost all the red state governors who are about to lift restrictions are in states that are not even close to peaking. Texas is gonna be ugly.

The ones protesting are the Q nuts. They are certifiable.

Here in Orlando they were a joke. Unfortunately I look for my governor to try to take the easy way out. Put it back on local governments. Then we will increasingly high rates in Jacksonville and the Panhandle.

And the Villages. Won’t shed any tears over them.

[guillaumeb]

45. I agree that the Q cultists are seriously deluded.

And yes, if these red states continue to act as if they can ignore the COVID19 virus, their own voters will suffer.

[Salviati]

38. I only hope that the media starts reporting with this reality in mind

Stop giving these branch covidians free unexamined press. Cite how unpopular this take is, cite where the funding for these 'protests' are coming from. Expose these whackadoos and death-cultists for all to see.

[guillaumeb]

46. In the Chicago area, coverage of these p[rotests has noted the small size of them.

Even the Chicago Tribune, a right wing paper, has no sympathy for these protesters.

[AdamGG]

40. Liberate the White House

[guillaumeb]

47. Amen to that. eom

[maxsolomon]

49. Complete misreading of their purpose.

The protests are energizing the base, along the lines of the Tea Party BS.

They're getting Trump's still-mobile voters to occupy space on the Tee Vee while Trump's shut-in voters are isolating and watching Tee Vee (like my streaming-serviceless Dad).

Essentially, they are part of a 2020 campaign strategy, like Trump's daily briefings.

When the economy "re-opens" in mid-May or June 1, whenever, Trump will claim credit for making the sun rise in the East.

[guillaumeb]

52. Trump's approval ratings are falling.

My opinion is that Trump will continue to mishandle this crisis.

[subana]

58. that's the one thing we can count on!

he will continue to fuck it up! And the republican states who want to open some businesses will kill more people, mostly republicans. That will not be good for donnie or the GOP!

I think his approvals are falling mostly because of the daily press conferences. He always thinks he's so smart that he can explain his way out of a mess but every time he does, he makes it worse for himself, whether he's trying to get out of covid-19 or Russian interference!

[Hassler]

51. And his best demographic--old people--are turning against him

Over his reopen push.

[guillaumeb]

56. November 2020 cannot arrive too soon. eom

[bucolic_frolic]

53. IN the long run the American public isn't stupid

The protestors are bought and paid for. Period.

[BrightKnight]

54. The wing nut interviews can't be helping him.

People are dumb but most people are not that dumb.

[backscatter712]

59. I thought those MAGAts looked familiar...