Guess I'm crazy, but these appear to be businesses that SHOULD NOT reopen right now???

[spanone]

ATLANTA, GA (FOX Carolina) Monday, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced that some businesses will be permitted to re-open their doors to the public while reiterating the importance of social distancing.

Gov. Kemp said a handful of businesses that rely on physical contact will be able to open back up on April 24. These include:

Gyms
Fitness centers
Bowling alleys
Barbers
Body art studios
Nail care artists
Cosmetologists
Hair designers
Aestheticians and their respective schools
Massage therapists

On April 27, Kemp said theaters, private social clubs and restaurant dine-in services will be able to begin reopening.

https://www.foxcarolina.com/news/georgia-governor-will-allow-some-businesses-dine-in-restaurants-to-reopen-in-coming-days/article_f6467c5a-8345-11ea-908b-cf2ddd7342cb.html

[guillaumeb]

1. So places that require close physical contact are allowed to reopen?

What could go wrong?

[spanone]

4. It really reads like bizarro world satire

[guillaumeb]

5. Like a group death wish.

Could we build a wall around Georgia and Florida?

[JDC]

21. It's so clear that these are likely the worst choices to reopen.

It is insanity on its face.

[guillaumeb]

22. A shared insanity.

Insanity might be as contagious as the COVID19 virus, and more deadly.

[SheltieLover]

2. Depends upon your agenda

It's great if you want to kill lots of people!

[2naSalit]

26. +1

[onecaliberal]

3. Words fail.

[matt819]

6. Let 'em

And don’t go. You’ll still be safe and they won’t.

Yes, they will spread the disease but if you/we remain cautious, we’ll probably/hopefully be fine. And well sit back and watch the results of this experiment unfold.

[brer cat]

18. That is likely to happen.

Even republicans I know are saying they are not going into any of the stores, restaurants, etc that open back up now.

[hedda_foil]

7. He also said local governments couldn't be more restrictive than that.

God help Atlanta!

[zipplewrath]

9. Actually

Barbers, nail care, cosmetologists, etc are places that 1) usually have limited populations and 2) already have a fair amount of hygiene/sterilization practices in place. They'd be the first places I'd open. SMALL gyms/ personal training studios would probably be second. The really hard leap is going to be bars, clubs, theaters, and the like. The problem with bowling is everyone's balls get all mixed together in the system.

[spanone]

10. I'll just agree to disagree.

[zipplewrath]

11. What you would open first?

Or would you just rip off the bandaid all at once and open everything. (at some point in the future)

[spanone]

17. I believe I would open things where you could practice a bit of social distancing

These all appear to be opposite of that...

[zipplewrath]

19. Small groups

I'd guess that a responsible opening would include opening facilities with small groups with requirements like masks and other PPE to be used, at least by the staff. That's why I think about places like salons and such that have maybe less than 20 people in them, and mostly interacting with one or two others. It will be a long time before we can open facilities where 50+ people, where they all interact, will be able to be opened.

[spanone]

20. Wonder if Dr. Fauci has weighed in on this? Don't feel like we're listening to the experts anymore..

if we ever did.

[marybourg]

23. Sterilization of instruments doesn't help

when two people ‘s faces are 18 inches apart and one is holding the other’s hand. This list contains some of the last places I’d open. Body art? Puleeze

[zipplewrath]

33. Well body art...

I realize it's all the rage but...

That aside, this is predominately a respiratory illness and as such, it is the breath, breathing, coughing kind of interaction that is the primary problem. With some cleaning between individual customers, and the using of masks can greatly (strongly, very strongly) reduce any potential risks, including reducing the interaction to the minimum number of people possible. That, and cleaning both people after the interaction.

[dpibel]

27. They also have...

Close and extended contact, which is kinda factor #1 in transmission.

"A fair amount of hygiene/sterilization practices in place" applies to the tools of the trade, which are nearly irrelevant for purposes of a respiratory virus.

Here's the scenario: A barber cuts the hair of 20 people a day. The barber is in close, breath-exchange contact with each of them for 15 minutes. One of them has asymptomatic COVID-19. The barber picks it up from that person. For the next four or five days, the barber is asymptomatically shedding virus on 20 people a day.

I'm neither a doctor or an epidemiologist. Neither are you. But I can confidently say I'm really glad you're not running the pandemic control show.

[zipplewrath]

32. Wearing a mask

A barber, wearing mask and cleansing between customers, as well as not allowing customers to hang around while not being served appears to be a very low risk arrangement.

[Ms. Toad]

30. Same problem with gyms (of any size) and personal training studios.

Any I've been in requires the people who use them to exercise common sense, which I've never found in plenty in such places (based on observations of contact that might spread diseas).

[Initech]

12. Are there really that many bowling alleys in Georgia to warrant reopening status?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

13. Absolutely

[IcyPeas]

14. he's the one that didn't know it could be asymptomatic

a few weeks ago.

Fact check: Georgia governor says we only just learned people without symptoms could spread coronavirus. Experts have been saying that for months

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/fact-check-georgia-gov-brian-kemp-coronavirus-no-symptoms-stay-at-home/index.html

[cwydro]

15. No shit.

Rec.

[C_U_L8R]

16. Suicide by republican mandate

This is gruesome.

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. That's what happens when a repug steals an election.

[malaise]

25. Just make sure that your family and friends

are staying safe.

[Marrah_Goodman]

28. It makes perfect sense

once you realize that these states are run by the Party of Death

[Ms. Toad]

29. Of these:

Gyms - Nope
Fitness centers - Nope
Bowling alleys - Nope
Barbers - yes
Body art studios - Maybe
Nail care artists - Nope
Cosmetologists - Yes
Hair designers - Yes
Aestheticians and their respective schools (???)
Massage therapists - Maybe

My criteria? State certification that includes mandatory attention to communicable diseases. Any place that depends on the common sense of customers (or non-certified operators) nope.

[zipplewrath]

34. Kinda my thought

Anything that already has some "tradition" of cleanliness can have their procedures modified to address the issue. Anything that doesn't already have these kinds of traditions and habits, not so much.

[TeamPooka]

31. GA Democrats, don't fall for this!!!! Stay home.