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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:32 AM Apr 2020

It is puzzling the lack of literature and fact based movies about the 1918 pandemic.

The 1918 pandemic was one of the largest catastrophes in human history. There have been books written about it, but not on the scale one would think.

Hollywood is still making fact based movies about the civil war, WWI, great depression, etc. They have all but ignored the 1918 pandemic.

There must be countless, incredible stories yet to be told about the pandemic. Stories about loss, love, sacrifice, courage. The silence over the 1918 pandemic is very strange.

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It is puzzling the lack of literature and fact based movies about the 1918 pandemic. (Original Post) shockey80 Apr 2020 OP
I suspect that will change over the next few years fescuerescue Apr 2020 #1
I believe at the time Freddie Apr 2020 #2
I have an excellent non-fiction book on the topic I picked up at a thrift store... Hugin Apr 2020 #3
Probably "The Great Influenza" 3_Limes Apr 2020 #7
Yeah, that's the book! Hugin Apr 2020 #11
Downtown Abbey SoonerPride Apr 2020 #4
Pale Horse Pale Rider by Katherine Anne Porter Itchinjim Apr 2020 #5
Watch this... littlemissmartypants Apr 2020 #6
This! I've been preaching for people to watch this since it came out, eerie simularities, watch it! Baclava Apr 2020 #12
Maybe you should write a book Renew Deal Apr 2020 #8
My dad would have been 6 years old then....he never mentioned it, nor did my Grandparents. n/t rgbecker Apr 2020 #9
Shockey80, check out this post from April 15... KY_EnviroGuy Apr 2020 #10
Wartime propaganda Recursion Apr 2020 #13
Check out this awesome book... MoonRiver Apr 2020 #14
My SO thought I was crazy when I bought that book. Hugin Apr 2020 #15
Lots of stories on my dad's side! MoonRiver Apr 2020 #16
A very touching story about "Little Hal"... Hugin Apr 2020 #18
My dad's family were rural too, farmers. MoonRiver Apr 2020 #21
Because contemporary discussion Codeine Apr 2020 #17
Good post. shockey80 Apr 2020 #19
I'm sure that younger people hadn't heard of the 1918 pandemic, but Tracer Apr 2020 #20

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
1. I suspect that will change over the next few years
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:47 AM
Apr 2020

The current crisis will be too soon to make a movie about.

So Hollywood, attempting to capitalize on the new public consciousness of pandemics, will look to this. IMO.

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
2. I believe at the time
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:28 AM
Apr 2020

Many people did not know how devastating it was, as we didn’t have TV etc. yet, plus the severity of the epidemic varied widely between regions.
In John Barry’s (awesome) book, he reported there was a big effort by the press to keep people from panicking. And Wilson wanted it downplayed for fear it would hamper the war effort. The deaths of thousands of young soldiers in training camps was largely hushed up.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
3. I have an excellent non-fiction book on the topic I picked up at a thrift store...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

Years ago.

It has tons of photographs and goes into great detail about the events surrounding the 1918 flu pandemic.



3_Limes

(363 posts)
7. Probably "The Great Influenza"
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:12 AM
Apr 2020

A really good read. Covers the history well and offers a very helpful tour of basic virology and epidemiology as well.

Recommended.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
11. Yeah, that's the book!
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:28 AM
Apr 2020

Ironically, it's trapped at a site quite a distance away from where I'm isolated along with my stash of Lysol. :frustrated:

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
4. Downtown Abbey
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

They had an episode with the 1918 flu.

It is one of the few pop culture references I know of.

Itchinjim

(3,084 posts)
5. Pale Horse Pale Rider by Katherine Anne Porter
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:36 AM
Apr 2020
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Horse,_Pale_Rider
A novelized account of Potter's own experience of the flu. A fascinating story that also tells of her classic NDE

littlemissmartypants

(22,590 posts)
6. Watch this...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:45 AM
Apr 2020
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/influenza/#film_description

AIRED: January 2, 2018

American Experience: Influenza 1918

Film Description
In September of 1918, soldiers at an army base near Boston suddenly began to die. The cause of death was identified as influenza, but it was unlike any strain ever seen.?As the killer virus spread across the country, hospitals overfilled, death carts roamed the streets and helpless city officials dug mass graves. It was the worst epidemic in American history, killing over 600,000 — until it disappeared as mysteriously as it had begun.


There are several links on the page that have revelatory and interesting information.

❤ lmsp
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
12. This! I've been preaching for people to watch this since it came out, eerie simularities, watch it!
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:30 AM
Apr 2020

I had a little bird, it's name was Enza
I opened up the window and in flew Enza

-Children's playground song 1918

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
10. Shockey80, check out this post from April 15...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:25 AM
Apr 2020
Good video series on the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic.

Link: https://www.democraticunderground.com/114223135

I found those videos to be very informative and I believe authoritative as well.......

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Wartime propaganda
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:31 AM
Apr 2020

There was a very interesting piece on this a few years ago. It's pretty much all based on information controls set up during World War 1.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
14. Check out this awesome book...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29036.The_Great_Influenza

Anecdotally, a paternal uncle of mine, born 20 years before my father, contracted and died from that flu in boot camp, preparing for deployment to Europe.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
15. My SO thought I was crazy when I bought that book.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:47 AM
Apr 2020

My interest was sparked when my parents and I were going through old rural cemeteries in the mid-west while they were working on genealogy. I noticed a large number of the interred were very young and all had died around 1918. It wasn't until some years later I put it together with the 1918 flu.

Another often overlooked scourge was Tuberculosis. Which, I originally attributed the deaths to until I learned of the pandemic. I still question if the ongoing Tuberculosis epidemic didn't make the toll from the flu worse. But, that's probably something I'll never know.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
16. Lots of stories on my dad's side!
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 11:55 AM
Apr 2020

My paternal aunt, an English professor, put it all together in a document for family. I have the original letter from the camp nurse who cared for my uncle until he passed at age 17. She wrote my grandmother because Little Hal, her name for him, wanted her to tell his parents how much he loved them.

But, a few years before that, grandmother and grandfather barely survived the Great Galveston Hurricane, which is also memorialized in a fantastic book called A Weekend in September. My maternal great aunt drowned in that event, but grandparents somehow made it through.

Hugin

(33,058 posts)
18. A very touching story about "Little Hal"...
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

So young. A tragedy.

As, I was going through those cemeteries there were literally dozens if not hundreds of graves of very young people at all around the same date. These were relatively small cemeteries, too. It was striking to me.

I don't have any direct stories of anyone in my family who succumbed to the flu. Understandable, since they were extremely rural, cloistered, and self-reliant people at that time. (See: Hillbillies) The only family story I've heard which may be related is one of my grandmother's siblings died at about then. When she was only 6 months old. The family attributed her demise to an insect bite. However, I believe it could have been the flu given the time frame.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
21. My dad's family were rural too, farmers.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:51 PM
Apr 2020

There is a theory that rural kids are more susceptible to diseases after they go to bigger cities, due to a lack of immunity to common germs. But that wasn’t the case with the 1918 flu. It killed disproportionately more young people because their strong immune systems actually wrecked more havoc on their lungs than the flu.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. Because contemporary discussion
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:15 PM
Apr 2020

was shut down by wartime censorship, and because everyone was just entirely exhausted in the aftermath of the Great War and the pandemic that they largely just didn’t talk about it much.

This has skewed our historical understanding and dramatically understates the significance of the event for following generations.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
19. Good post.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:35 PM
Apr 2020

Your last sentence is very good. It is strange how such a big event has been largely ignored by history. I bet many Americans never heard of the1918 pandemic until now.

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
20. I'm sure that younger people hadn't heard of the 1918 pandemic, but
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 12:42 PM
Apr 2020

not being young, I certainly heard about it from relatives:

My mother's sister died of it in London and my ex-husband's grandfather, who was a doctor serving in France during WWI, died of it also.

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