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Freelancer

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Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:21 PM Apr 2020

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hlthe2b

(114,681 posts)
1. Genetic testing lets one track the origins and subsequent movements of the virus through populations
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:25 PM
Apr 2020

Not antibody testing. The latter is useful for identifying the proportion of a given population that has been previously infected and hopefully (if we are lucky and this virus follows the pattern of most viral infections) suggests there may be some level of immunity. The latter has not been established as fact in COVID-19 but we are hopeful.

LAS14

(15,537 posts)
2. No. It began in Wuhan China, transmitted from a small animal. Maybe in the wild, maybe in a lab. nt
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:26 PM
Apr 2020

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Marrah_Goodman

(1,587 posts)
6. You can catch this from someone breathing near you
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:43 PM
Apr 2020

You also may never have shown symptoms. people scattered about that have the antibodies would not mean they have had those antibodies for a long time.

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Beartracks

(14,653 posts)
4. I remember reading that the 1918 Spanish Flu originated in Kansas. n/t
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:37 PM
Apr 2020

Marrah_Goodman

(1,587 posts)
5. That is one theory, there are a few
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 08:40 PM
Apr 2020

They aren't sure exactly where it started.

Freddie

(10,143 posts)
8. Probably in Kansas
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:20 PM
Apr 2020

Possibly from pigs, since they can get human flu.
Might have stayed local except for a couple of young men who enlisted to fight WWI and took the flu with them to basic training. As personnel were transferred from base to base it spread like wildfire in the crowded camps.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
12. That theory has largely been refuted.
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:48 PM
Apr 2020

Even John M. Barry who first suggested that has more recently said that is probably not the case.

Even so, his book The Great Influenza is remarkable and well worth reading. And here's a link to a recent interview with Barry: https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/27/politics/interview-john-barry-great-influenza/index.html

Igel

(37,613 posts)
9. If most Americans had it,
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 09:54 PM
Apr 2020

it would be good evidence that it was circulating here for a while before spreading overseas.

However, the symptoms identified for COVID-19 were fairly uncommon--it's how the virus was IDed. There are lots of cold viruses out there that nobody much bothers with, but this one made people very sick.

Doctors, hospitals, even the sclerotic CDC would have noticed.

bobalew

(475 posts)
10. Before We continue to conjecture about how it may
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:11 PM
Apr 2020

Begun In a Lab, look for the Scripps institute article on March 26, that defines its origins via RNA tracing and sequencing. Therein lies the data & truth. Mixing truth, now matter hard you try to keep it pure, with bullshit, still gets you truth contaminated with bullshit...

Demsrule86

(71,555 posts)
11. It came from china...Wuhan most likely...as that is where you saw the first cases. It doesn't matter
Tue Apr 21, 2020, 10:15 PM
Apr 2020

Viruses come and had President Dumb Ass done his job, we would have handled this.

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