Britain's Real Coronavirus Death Toll Is Double the Official Number, Says Report

[DFW]

Really? Wanna bet there is another country where that is the case? It can found on the map south of Manitoba, and north of Ciudad Juarez.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/britains-real-coronavirus-death-toll-is-double-the-official-number-says-report?via=newsletter&source=CSAMedition

[malaise]

1. Damn this is frightening

Get thee to the greatest page

[DFW]

4. I'll bet it's the same everywhere

No one wants their country to be a hotbed of virus fatalities. The more there are reported, the less people will want to go there, and their hotels, restaurants, and entertainment industries will want to start up SOME day.

And yet, testing is still SO low, it is practically inevitable that respiratory disease and fatalities from same are far higher, as in by multiples, than what we are being told. I'll bet the true dimension of all this is, in fact, unknown, and will remain so for months at a minimum.

[Celerity]

9. Belgium is not undercounting (or certainly less than most others), it is why they are so high.

Belgium says transparency explains high virus death toll

https://www.euractiv.com/section/coronavirus/news/belgium-says-transparency-explains-high-virus-death-toll/

[sop]

2. The POS: "Fake news stories by nasty reporters published in failed newspapers to damage Trump"

[DFW]

3. You know things have turned upside down

When "fake" means "true," and "failed" is used to mean "were honest with their readers."

[muriel_volestrangler]

5. As I pointed out 2 weeks ago

https://www.democraticunderground.com/108819176

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. Could be worse if you realize there are fewer traffic accidents, etc. . . . nt

[Igel]

7. Read it.

The newspaper’s total is based on new data from the Office of National Statistics and, unlike the official figure, includes deaths that have taken place outside hospitals. The analysis shows a huge spike in deaths compared to previous years.

When cities looked at their deaths per day or week in the US they found a variance to be accounted for. In places like NYC it wasn't integer multiples of the official death toll; it was more like 1/5. Unlike what the FT found.

This has resulted in a revised CDC guidance on reporting deaths.

Deaths get reported in two columns (or should). The first is confirmed COVID cases by means of test; the second is based on symptoms.

Caveats: Not all jurisdictions are separating them cleanly. Not all jurisdictions have started to report them.

However if the NY Metroplex accounts for half of all deaths and they fixed their reporting, so it's unlikely the rest of the country (where still most of the deaths are in (D) territory) are that out of line.

Yes, some of the (D) territories are in red states. But if some place like Houston, for instance, reported 100 deaths and the official report issued by the state for that day said 50, I'm sure that the Houston mayor would have no trouble point this out.

[HarlanPepper]

8. Good rational post

A lost art here these days.