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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:35 AM Apr 2020

Trump orders US to 'shoot down and destroy' Iranian boats 'harassing' US warships

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-iran-navy-twitter-shoot-destroy-us-ships-sea-tensions-a9478051.html

Chris RiottaNew York @chrisriotta
1 minute ago

Donald Trump said he instructed the Navy “to shoot down and destroy" Iranian gunboats if they “harass” US ships at sea following a tense encounter between US warships and Iran’s paramilitary Revolutionary Guard in the Persian Gulf.

In a tweet posted on Wednesday morning, the president wrote: "I have instructed the United States Navy to shoot down and destroy any and all Iranian gunboats if they harass our ships at sea."

The apparent orders follow reports last week that Iranian fast boats were coming into close proximity with the US warships while conducting a drill near Kuwait.

The Navy later released video of the incident, which showed the Iranian boats nearing US vessels, with at least one pointing a deck-mounted machine gun towards the American boats.

Iran’s Revolutionary Guard seemed to blame the US, saying the close encounter was caused by “the unprofessional and provocative actions of the United States and their indifference to warnings”.




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Someone should remind Spanky that you "shoot down" aircraft and you "sink" boats.
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Trump orders US to 'shoot down and destroy' Iranian boats 'harassing' US warships (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Apr 2020 OP
Boats fly? jpak Apr 2020 #1
Supercar Poiuyt Apr 2020 #29
I don't recall Congress declaring war against Iran. Laelth Apr 2020 #2
It would be easier to shoot down their submarines. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #6
not really, given the history of suicide boats in the area (USS Cole) Amishman Apr 2020 #17
I don't disagree. Laelth Apr 2020 #21
nobody BGBD Apr 2020 #27
Let us hope. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #28
Still the little boy playing soldiers on his bedspread? Frustratedlady Apr 2020 #3
Flatline STUPID... Few words left. n/t Guilded Lilly Apr 2020 #4
Looks like a flare up Aviation Pro Apr 2020 #5
Zing! brer cat Apr 2020 #15
But Russia can keep on intercepting USN planes? sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #7
If they just keep intercepting ours. Igel Apr 2020 #12
Also, you "sink" presidential campaigns by talking like an idiot. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #8
We can only hope.......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #10
Hopefully ck4829 Apr 2020 #23
Doesn't the military have rules of engagement? Dawgman49 Apr 2020 #9
It should ck4829 Apr 2020 #24
Iranian gunboats dweller Apr 2020 #11
+100...n/t bluecollar2 Apr 2020 #22
The newest diversion from our high Covid19 death rates. pwb Apr 2020 #13
Another day, another shining object dalton99a Apr 2020 #14
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #30
Now he's trying to start a war to distract from the CV deaths that will have a huge spike soon. lark Apr 2020 #16
Just wait for next week DFW Apr 2020 #18
+1 dalton99a Apr 2020 #19
Meanwhile... ck4829 Apr 2020 #20
In Iranian waters malaise Apr 2020 #25
That tail will be wagging the dog like mad by Election Day Wednesdays Apr 2020 #26

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. I don't recall Congress declaring war against Iran.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:41 AM
Apr 2020

This “order” puts the navy in an impossible bind.

-Laelth

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
17. not really, given the history of suicide boats in the area (USS Cole)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:35 AM
Apr 2020

If they come close enough and are ignoring commands to turn away, this could be considered defensive action.

Not going to be a popular opinion on here, but with the Cole precedent it makes sense if they are being sufficiently aggressive, which from the descriptions its pretty close.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
21. I don't disagree.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:55 AM
Apr 2020

I would merely prefer to have individual Captains make these decisions on a case-by-case basis (as opposed to an executive order compelling us to open fire on any aggressive Iranian vessel). If the President had not targeted Iran, specifically, I would be less concerned.

-Laelth

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
27. nobody
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:22 AM
Apr 2020

disagrees with Navy ships defending themselves against threats. They also didn't need Trump to tweet an order to do so.

This is just something shiny to distract people.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
12. If they just keep intercepting ours.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:20 AM
Apr 2020

Protests are filed when they lock on radar.

Now, having Chinese run into a Vietnamese or Japanese boat ... Let them sink. (It's suspiciously like that Venezuelan incident a couple of weeks ago.)

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
10. We can only hope..........
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:15 AM
Apr 2020

It didn't seem to have any effect in 2016 - enough were mesmerized by those beautiful red hats........

Dawgman49

(225 posts)
9. Doesn't the military have rules of engagement?
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:14 AM
Apr 2020

and how does the idiot define"harassment"?...so if they give us the finger...?...more distraction

pwb

(11,261 posts)
13. The newest diversion from our high Covid19 death rates.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:23 AM
Apr 2020

Goofy red governors , Immigration, now Iran? Anything to hide is grave mistake.

lark

(23,093 posts)
16. Now he's trying to start a war to distract from the CV deaths that will have a huge spike soon.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:34 AM
Apr 2020

He's ensuring there is a 2nd wave and thinks this might distract th base from the fact that they and their relatives are dying/ Stupid fucking murderous idiot is the worst thing that has happened to America in our entire history.

DFW

(54,357 posts)
18. Just wait for next week
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:48 AM
Apr 2020

He'll give the order to sink any aircraft that paddle too close to our coastal installations.

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