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MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:18 AM Apr 2020

In Minnesota, Liquor stores are open, but tobacco stores are shut down. Both

are specific orders from the Governor. Both operate in approximately the same way, with regard to customers. Both sell products that can be harmful to people's health. They are rarely crowded. It's a very interesting distinction.

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In Minnesota, Liquor stores are open, but tobacco stores are shut down. Both (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2020 OP
The distinction is simple. Aristus Apr 2020 #1
And yet, neither of them is less or more likely to be a source MineralMan Apr 2020 #3
Ah, I get your point now. Rorey Apr 2020 #6
By that logic, we should close grocery stores... brooklynite Apr 2020 #11
I think it has more to do with availability jimfields33 Apr 2020 #7
That's a possible explanation. Minnesota only allows liquor sales in MineralMan Apr 2020 #9
Not to mention that alcohol DETOX for severe addicted can be deadly and consumes ER resources! hlthe2b Apr 2020 #12
Well..... Rorey Apr 2020 #2
There was no ban on tobacco sales. Just a ban on tobacco stores MineralMan Apr 2020 #4
I think this is exactly the reason. Mariana Apr 2020 #5
Agree, and they probably don't want them detoxing in other places either Rorey Apr 2020 #8
Same in Texas LeftInTX Apr 2020 #10
here in Wash State our pot stores are open... samnsara Apr 2020 #13

Aristus

(66,264 posts)
1. The distinction is simple.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:22 AM
Apr 2020

There is a safe, moderate level of alcohol consumption. I won't go so far as to say that red wine, for example, is actually good for you. The evidence for it is sketchy at best.

But there is no safe, moderate level of tobacco consumption. Even one cigarette can be bad for you.

I know I'm sticking my head in the lion's mouth here. I'm going to get clobbered by smokers who'll say they've been smoking for fifty years, and there's nothing wrong with them.

But science doesn't care about the lion's mouth...



MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
3. And yet, neither of them is less or more likely to be a source
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:24 AM
Apr 2020

of spreading for the virus. The two are equivalent in that regard. The reason for closing businesses is to slow the spread of the disease, not to make a comment on the relative danger of the products being sold.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
6. Ah, I get your point now.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

Here in Colorado, we'll be moving from "Stay At Home" to "Safer At Home", and I believe part of this new phase is that non-essential retail stores will be allowed to do curb-side pickup. It'll be interesting to see if that works well for the businesses, but I kinda doubt it will.

brooklynite

(94,278 posts)
11. By that logic, we should close grocery stores...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:37 AM
Apr 2020

...yes the products are needed, but as you say we're not making a comment on the relative danger of the products, just on stores most likely to spread the disease...

jimfields33

(15,649 posts)
7. I think it has more to do with availability
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:30 AM
Apr 2020

Cigarettes can be purchased at gas stations. Alcohol cannot at least in a lot of states.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
9. That's a possible explanation. Minnesota only allows liquor sales in
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:34 AM
Apr 2020

liquor stores. So, you could be right. Thanks!

hlthe2b

(102,072 posts)
12. Not to mention that alcohol DETOX for severe addicted can be deadly and consumes ER resources!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

There are alternative places to purchase tobacco products (e.g., Sam's and other large warehouses, many grocery stores) and cold turkey is unpleasant for those who choose/have to do so, but not deadly. Not to mention nicotine patches and similar products are still widely available at pharmacies, grocery stores, and online.

So, NO, Mineral Man.. these issues are not even remotely equivalent.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
2. Well.....
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:24 AM
Apr 2020

If someone quits smoking cold turkey, they'll be miserable, but they won't die. If an alcoholic quits cold turkey, they could possibly go into withdrawal so severe that it's life-threatening.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
4. There was no ban on tobacco sales. Just a ban on tobacco stores
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:25 AM
Apr 2020

remaining open. Cigarettes and other tobacco products are available in many other places.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
5. I think this is exactly the reason.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:27 AM
Apr 2020

The last thing anyone needs right now is a bunch of alcoholics with the DT's clogging up the hospitals while they're detoxing.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Agree, and they probably don't want them detoxing in other places either
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

Such as non-medical detox center-type places.

LeftInTX

(25,049 posts)
10. Same in Texas
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 10:37 AM
Apr 2020

Must be a "secret code" somewhere in the US...LOL

We can even have mixed drinks and liquor home delivered.....(I think this is the first time in Texas history!!)

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