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What about soap? Yes alcohol and bleach kill the virus but soap destroys (Original Post) applegrove Apr 2020 OP
Yes, soap is best or at least as good, from all science-based accounts I have read.... blitzen Apr 2020 #1
Correct. Soap is most effective. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #3
While True... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #7
Soap works DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2020 #2
Soap is one of the greatest medical advances ever judeling Apr 2020 #4
Soap on a dope Blue Owl Apr 2020 #5
Soap is preferable to sanitizer. It kills the virus better. Seriously. Squinch Apr 2020 #8

Caliman73

(11,725 posts)
3. Correct. Soap is most effective.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:24 PM
Apr 2020

For the reason you stated. It renders the virus null by destroying the fat layer that encases it and allows it to enter the cells.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
6. While True...
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

...sanitizers with active chlorine are even faster.
As I put in another post, it's a matter of 2 vs. 20 seconds. Exactly why is detail I won't bore people with by repeating.
CDC study (on their website) uses 1000 ppm as sodium hypochlorite as the standard. Tests were done for 30 seconds. Common sanitizing agents (with active chlorine), 70% ethanol or isopropanol, and common household surfactants were used. They all pretty much worked the same, but 30 seconds is quite a long duration compared to the actual mechanistic rates.
Alcohol also damages the lipid layer by simple solubility. Faster than detergent, slower than chlorine. The article misidentified the mechanism though by saying it's the same as with soap. That's incorrect.
Truth is, they all work, and although alcohol or active chlorine is faster, soap (better, detergents which are not soap) is a perfectly fine sanitizer for this.
At some point, it's a matter of preference. One is no better or worse than the others. Just different.

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