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Marcuse

(7,478 posts)
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 08:01 PM Apr 2020

This Virus thrived during the hottest Australian summer in history.

Today’s campaign briefing featured the administration’s optimism that rising US temperatures will ameliorate the virus’ impact. Next, it will be promoting carbon emissions chased with hydroxychloroquine as a cure cocktail. What do we have to lose?

[link:https://www.abc.net.au/news/story-streams/coronavirus/|


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Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Article in the Guardian
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 08:05 PM
Apr 2020

yesterday or the day before,stating lab tests proved this Sucker was surviving at 140 degrees Fahrenheit.

jimfields33

(15,767 posts)
3. They have 75 deaths total.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 08:09 PM
Apr 2020

Something is different down there. I have no problem with them studying the effects of heat on the virus. Look at how incredible florida’s Doing. There has to be a reason. New York is doing awful. Why? It needs to be studied.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
9. They took this seriously right off the bat. Countries that did the same are doing better.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 08:41 PM
Apr 2020

Are you trying to imply that Trump is right? What about the level of outbreak in Lousiana and Florida, Florida had been in the high 80s with plenty of sun and rising humidity for weeks prior to this week, where it is cooler and drier.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
10. It'll be up to the statisticians.
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:21 PM
Apr 2020

No claim (apart from Trump, so no actual claim) said that SARS-CoV-2 wouldn't be transmitted at torrid summertime temperatures.

The research was that it would have *reduced* transmission. Meaning that if you repeat everything at 95 degrees F and 65 degrees F, there'd be fewer cases at 95 than at 65. One Chinese study said the optimum temperature was 43 F (converting T scales, thank you). Another non-Chinese study saw a small but (statistically) significant reduction in transmission--on average. Lots of counterexamples, but you do the regression and there's a difference.

One Saudi study found nothing, but they were looking at Houston August versus Tucson August. 95 versus 120. And in lab setting.

The lab setting is both good and bad. First, good--who knows what else was going on with the Chinese and the second study? So a lab isolates the variables. On the other hand, it also reduces the variation of conditions under which the virus was transmitted, and since the variance isn't that large one of those omitted conditions could be where the variation's occurring.

(And I still hate biology. Not only do things die, but the research is hard to keep ethical and hard to not force you to just ignore 39 out of the top 40--sometimes top 39--factors you really think are in play but can't actually study.)

LeftInTX

(25,228 posts)
14. I didn't watch Trump's press disaster
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 10:31 AM
Apr 2020

but I think there was the Homeland Security study presentation..but I assume the main take away from that study would be that outdoor summer activities would be lower risk than outdoor winter activities or indoor activities.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
12. There is evidence the UV light from the sun can kill the virus
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:28 PM
Apr 2020

Just because there were cases in Australia, it doesn't conflict with this.

There's no sun indoors. Sunlight isn't going to kill the virus inside of people.

What it might do is kill the virus on surfaces outdoors. That could eliminate some modes of infection, but not even remotely all of them.

It's not black or white, yo.

LeftInTX

(25,228 posts)
13. Singapore has a new outbreak and it has both the heat and humidity
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 09:42 PM
Apr 2020

Only 6 million people live there, so they probably have better testing access, but right now 2 percent of their population has had Covid or has it.

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