NY Times takes Trump framing to a new low

[NewJeffCT]

WTF? "some experts"??? which legitimate experts say injecting bleach or lysol is good?

Link to tweet

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text of tweet from Soledad O'Brien:

I know I yell about terrible media framing every day, but it never occurred to me that this is how the
@nytimes
would frame the President’s suggestion of injecting disinfectants into your body to cure Covid19:

“dangerously in the view of some experts”

[dalton99a]

1. So only SOME experts think injecting Clorox is dangerous?

[Dave Starsky]

16. Only the elitist liberal scientists.

In the meantime, I'm working on my second glass of Lysol Toilet Cleaner, and the room is starting to spin.

[Skraxx]

2. To Be Fair, Experts in Evolutionary Sciences Might

not consider it dangerous, they may consider it natural selection.

[Demsrule86]

3. No they wouldn't...that is not how natural selection works.

When scientists talk about natural selection, they are talking about genetics not individuals.

[Skraxx]

7. Sigh...

[skip fox]

8. I don't understand the conflict.

It's the individuals with the "poor" genes who die. Therefore the "poor" genes don't get passed down.

Where natural selection doesn't apply, or doesn't apply simply in a on an individual basis is when these protestors expose themselves to the virus by gathering. That can effect others.

[Skraxx]

9. Not only that, it was also a joke, not an engagement in a debate about evolutionary theory

But close enough for rock 'n roll!

[Demsrule86]

22. I know it was a joke...but I hate how Darwin's theories are continuously misunderstood...

[Demsrule86]

20. No, not how it works...Natural selection is a mechanism of evolution. Species that are genetically

more suited to their environment are more likely to live long enough to pass their genes on...and over time a species will change or diverge into a new species. over many many years. For this to be natural selection, the protesters would need to share some special sort of gene that make them less likely to survive and reproduce...and that is not the case. I would say stupidity and ignorance is at play here. Natural selection was used to justify all sorts of terrible acts against the less fortunate, those perceived as weak or genetically inferior. However, it was misused and misunderstood which continues even today.

[uponit7771]

4. NY Times is not helping with this junk

[Hugin]

5. I'm glad to see O'Brien bring this up...

It's only the tip of the framing iceberg.

There's also "False equivalency", "Both-siders-ism", "Horse race dependency", "Let's you and him fight", and many others. Bad habits the mass media has fallen into since the demise of in-the-public-interest journalism and reporting following the collapse of news in favor of entertainment.

[NRaleighLiberal]

6. they are being naive so often. playing minor league ball.

or is it willful? about $$$?

[dalton99a]

10. One instance among a long pattern

[JHB]

12. It's about a comfort zone...

Or as Driftglass puts it:

[NRaleighLiberal]

13. in my view, abject cowardice

[JHB]

14. Cowardice, comfort zone, toMAYto, toMAHto...

Here, they amount to the same thing.

[NRaleighLiberal]

19. yup!

[JHB]

21. Oh, jeez, Craig, I didn't even realize it was you when I made the tomato quip!

<- at myself!

[JHB]

11. NYT: "Trump theorizes Moon is made of green cheese...

...('the most fabulous cheese, just incredible') but some experts disagree."

[dalton99a]

15. Yep.

[dalton99a]

17. New York Times: All the Bothsiderism That's Fit to Print.

[Midnightwalk]

18. What were the others expert in? Mortuary science? nt