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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTruth be told Dr Birx failed
all she should have said yesterday is "Äre you fucking Mad" - and then walked out.
Her lack of total and complete outrage was shocking.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)But thats just me.
elleng
(130,865 posts)presence and non-response lend credibility to him.
She's not just some average joe who's afraid of losing their job. When you accept that kind of position you need to be willing to get fired before you let anything that you know is inaccurate or dangerous come out of the WH.
Do we think she is going to struggle if she gets fired? She'd have another job the second she wanted it.
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)and get some blood flow back to your cerebrum.
MontanaMama
(23,307 posts)it is complete hubris to stand there and listen to that garbage and not challenge it. She cannot be considered an adult in the room.
malaise
(268,930 posts)All this subtle talk allows him to do serious harm to people
dalton99a
(81,450 posts)marble falls
(57,077 posts)madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)But I think both Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci think Trump is stark raving mad and that they see their role as trying to protect the American people. If they walked out, who would Trump replace them with? Dr. Oz? Dr. (not a medical doctor) Phil?
It is a terrible place to be. And we don't know what goes on behind the scene.
malaise
(268,930 posts)please tell me who exactly they are protecting? She should have shut him up and expressed both shock and outrage.
madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)I don't think she should have walked out and cause a scene. But I do agree she should have asserted herself and shut him down.
I'm not trying to defend her. I think she acts like she is afraid of Trump, afraid of his temper.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)and go at him.
elleng
(130,865 posts)Arthur_Frain
(1,849 posts)It just seems like such a shit move, to be an enabler like that. When the predator comes in the forest, at least the prey being eaten has the decency to scream out a warning to the rest of the herd.
Somebody.
Please.
Stand up in front of the microphone, in a live broadcast, and call him the worlds stupidest shit to his face. Then walk calmly out of the room.
I heard what he said. I cant believe I heard the president of the U.S. actually say that shit, and nobody in the room did anything.
malaise
(268,930 posts)HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)She and Fauci are fired and replaced by Diamond and Silk and the My Pillow Guy? Yeah, it'll feel good to see in the moment but...
Arthur_Frain
(1,849 posts)Not yet, not publicly.
Obviously the what then is youre not a representative of the administration anymore. Does that matter? Does it matter to them that the majority of us (who didnt vote for him) view them with no respect, now that theyve enabled/supported/covered for this guy? Things being what they are, wouldnt the one who finally stood up and said Emperor got no clothes, dude find respect, and more employment possibilities with the majority, in the end?
Much like the impeachment, the conclusion is foregone. But the event needs to happen. Not just for my satisfaction, but to put it on record, beyond all doubt.
Ive been hearing the someone on the inside, protecting us from going off the rails now for long enough. My response is, its time to shit or get off the pot. Because much like this pandemic, half measures arent going to get the desired result.
Barring the actual proof that anybody on the inside is on our side, Im wondering if that isnt just wishful thinking on our part here at the endgame.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)madaboutharry
(40,207 posts)I have changed my mind about Dr. Birx. I agree with those who said that she should have been forceful in her response or that she should have even walked out.
It is obvious that she is a very weak person.
montanacowboy
(6,083 posts)To sit there like that, like a child taking a tongue lashing from an abusive parent and hang her head. She should hang her head, why anyone gives her any benefit of the doubt or credence is beyond my understanding.
Fucking have some self respect and do yourself and the country a favor.
tanyev
(42,550 posts)If only more people had done this from the very beginning.
He says he was ousted for questioning the potential of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malaria drug touted by Mr Trump.
President Trump said he had "never heard" of Dr Bright.
The president has previously mentioned the use of hydroxychloroquine and the related drug chloroquine as a possible "game changer" for Covid-19. However, many experts have cautioned that hydroxychloroquine could be ineffective, or even dangerous.
"In our filing we will make clear that Dr Bright was sidelined for one reason only - because he resisted efforts to provide unfettered access to potentially dangerous drugs, including chloroquine, a drug promoted by the administration as a panacea, but which is untested and possibly deadly when used improperly," a statement from the doctor's lawyers said.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52400721
malaise
(268,930 posts)That said the entire CDC staff should have come out and said the Con took over their briefings and is lying to the American people.
Ghost of Tom Joad
(1,355 posts)Susan Collins
elleng
(130,865 posts)she and Dr. Fauci should have spoken up quickly and publicly.
I do understand they want and need to keep their jobs, but enough is enough.
THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES.
durablend
(7,460 posts)Because we all know *someone* will try it.
Will she just shrug and go "Oh well" ?
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Including more than 300 in NYC alone
pandr32
(11,579 posts)I don't know how he gets people to put their pride and integrity aside and behave like good little sheeple, but he does. Is it his mob connections that perhaps threaten their loved ones?
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)and throw in a straight jacket while your at it.
malaise
(268,930 posts)lark
(23,091 posts)She has zero credibility after she said that there was no problem opening up hairdressers and massage parlours if they could provide these services in a socially distanced way. That was just as stupid as what drumpf is saying. She will never have another job except being a lying appendage to a fascist murderer, that is all she is now qualified to do.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome... Shes starting to think like her captor.
gibraltar72
(7,503 posts)It looked to me like whoever stepped away towards her and turned back on Trump winked at her or made an eye gesture. like ok it's your baby now.
malaise
(268,930 posts)and should have destroyed him once and for all
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I don't know who you guys imagine she'd be replaced with or how it'd be better.
I admit I would at least be glad if her going meant all these complaints about HER were replaced with some about ANY of the genocidal Republicans behind this.
Can I help choose one for you, Malaise? I like Senator Richard Burr. He's covered with the blood of 50,000 Americans so far.
democrank
(11,092 posts)like Trump day after day after day? I dont want to hear that Dr. Birx is sacrificing her dignity in order to help save the country. Shes doing no such thing. If she was really interested in the truth being told, shed notify the press and speak to them from a different venue.
If the Lysol Company guy felt the need to make a public statement, why did Dr. Birx just sit there? The press have to decipher what her facial expressions mean. During a pandemic. When Trump stands before a worried nation and lies....lies....lies.
Its unethical and its sickening.
malaise
(268,930 posts)THIS
If our toddlers found a bottle with cleanser, drank it and got ill or died, we would be arrested for negligence.
She should have mashed that down with authority. He was spewing dangerous absolute rubbish.
lanlady
(7,134 posts)She ought to be smart enough to realize that. She has two choices: either continue to serve as a scarf-toting prop and go down in history as an object of scorn, or refuse to take part in this charade any longer.
malaise
(268,930 posts)to put her foot down and end the BS and she pussyfooted her away around a lunatic telling people to drink or inject disinfectant.
CJustice
(10 posts)I agree but if she gets removed we could get an utterly insane, science denier taking her place.
malaise
(268,930 posts)People need to demand that all matters related to the pandemic need to be presented by the CDC experts - PERIOD!
marble falls
(57,077 posts)JudyM
(29,233 posts)Welcome to DU, CJustice.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)malaise
(268,930 posts)Barbara Boxer is on with him pointing out that her grandkids know not to drink disinfectant. Both said Birx should have been way stronger.
StarryNite
(9,443 posts)The fact that she knows how dangerous it was for him to say that and she sat there and did nothing makes her just as guilty. Shame on her.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)That is what she would have said if ANYONE else said such nonsense.
malaise
(268,930 posts)gulliver
(13,180 posts)Trump said to Birx (on the ultraviolet/light idea), "I think you said that hasn't been checked but we're gonna test it."
Then on the injecting of disinfectant, Trump said to Birx, "I think you said we're gonna test that too."
So he may have said it to her off-camera and she might have humored him by saying someone's going to test those two braindead ideas. Then he goes out and tells the world.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)kairos12
(12,852 posts)If we still alive in the future you can read about it in their book.