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EarlG

(21,939 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:10 PM Apr 2020

So Trump is going with "I was being sarcastic," huh?

Trump's official response to his disinfectant comments yesterday is that he was being sarcastic. Really?

Here's Acting Under-Secretary Bryan talking about LAB STUDIES at yesterday's press conference, and the use of UV light and disinfectant on SURFACES:

ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: So, in summary, within the conditions we’ve tested to date, the virus in droplets of saliva survives best in indoors and dry conditions. The virus does not survive as well in droplets of saliva. And that’s important because a lot of testing being done is not necessarily being done, number one, with the COVID-19 virus, and number two, in saliva or respiratory fluids.

And thirdly, the virus dies the quickest in the presence of direct sunlight under these conditions. And when you — when you look at that chart, look at the aerosol as you breathe it; you put it in a room, 70 to 75 degrees, 20 percent humidity, low humidity, it lasts — the half-life is about an hour. But you get outside, and it cuts down to a minute and a half. A very significant difference when it gets hit with UV rays.

And, Mr. President, while there are many unknown links in the COVID-19 transmission chain, we believe these trends can support practical decision making to lower the risks associated with the virus.

If I can have my next slide.

And when that — while that comes up, you’ll see a number of some practical applications. For example, increasing the temperature and humidity of potentially contaminated indoor spaces appears to reduce the stability of the virus. And extra care may be warranted for dry environments that do not have exposure to solar light.

We’re also testing disinfectants readily available. We’ve tested bleach, we’ve tested isopropyl alcohol on the virus, specifically in saliva or in respiratory fluids. And I can tell you that bleach will kill the virus in five minutes; isopropyl alcohol will kill the virus in 30 seconds, and that’s with no manipulation, no rubbing — just spraying it on and letting it go. You rub it and it goes away even faster. We’re also looking at other disinfectants, specifically looking at the COVID-19 virus in saliva.

This is not the end of our work as we continue to characterize this virus and integrate our findings into practical applications to mitigate exposure and transmission.


And now here's Trump COMPLETELY MISINTERPRETING WHAT BRYAN WAS SAYING, BECAUSE HE'S A DUMB MOTHERFUCKER:

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. So I asked Bill a question that probably some of you are thinking of, if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that too. It sounds interesting.

ACTING UNDER SECRETARY BRYAN: We’ll get to the right folks who could.

THE PRESIDENT: Right. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.

So we’ll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute, that’s — that’s pretty powerful.


What about that is in any way sarcastic?

And even if he WAS being sarcastic (which he wasn't), WHY IN THE FUCK WOULD YOU, THE PRESIDENT, CHOOSE THAT MOMENT TO BE SARCASTIC ABOUT YOUR OWN ADMINISTRATION'S STUDIES OF THE CORONAVIRUS???

This just gets more pathetic by the minute.

(And by the way, Bryan's "We'll get to the right folks who could" comment is also appalling, given that he should have corrected Trump instead of egging him on.)
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So Trump is going with "I was being sarcastic," huh? (Original Post) EarlG Apr 2020 OP
Kick dalton99a Apr 2020 #1
Everything with Trump and learned experts is like a bad game of telephone. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2020 #2
But he has a natural ability in these areas, douche know? He amazes the experts with tblue37 Apr 2020 #38
Why sarcasm at that moment? andym Apr 2020 #3
to bad he is incapable of learning scarytomcat Apr 2020 #32
#thatsnotwhatyousaidyoustupidfuck Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2020 #4
... Kali Apr 2020 #6
I'm an expert at sarcasm. My kids understood sarcasm before they were two. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #5
yes ignorance or really really bad humor scarytomcat Apr 2020 #34
I genuinely do not think there was any sort of levity involved. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #35
True scarytomcat Apr 2020 #41
Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany spun it as a serious proposal bigtree Apr 2020 #7
leave it to kayleigh sdfernando Apr 2020 #25
PRESIDENTAL ALERT: It's not a mushroom, it's huge and glorious. Trust me! Huge!! OMGWTF Apr 2020 #37
no. you can't just cop out that way, asshole. RussBLib Apr 2020 #8
Exactly, How is sarcasm from the office of the president..... jaxexpat Apr 2020 #39
Well, Consider This Earl ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #9
Yeah, sure 🙄 TDale313 Apr 2020 #10
Correction. This is his SECOND official response. Laelth Apr 2020 #11
+1. Distract, rinse, distract. However, incompetence does little to distract from incompetence. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #20
Ignorance is bliss for Don the Criminally Negligent Con malaise Apr 2020 #12
Note to SHITLER: Dr BIRX reacted in shock without any detecting of sarcasm on her part! UTUSN Apr 2020 #13
Yeah, her thought bubble in that instant was lunatica Apr 2020 #19
Yup - perfectly captured! That's exactly what I saw! lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #24
Oh yeah total sarcasm Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #14
Expert: Don't ingest poison. Trump: Ingest poison. Solly Mack Apr 2020 #15
Deadly dumbass Donnie is just as bad at covering his stupid ass as he is at everything. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #16
This is when McConnell and other Republicans have a "you need to resign" meeting with him.... steve2470 Apr 2020 #17
Yes Mr. President, because a man with your intelligence knows how to lead us through this mess. tavernier Apr 2020 #18
he did not say what you say he said stillcool Apr 2020 #21
Never accept blame. Never. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #22
So, if the reporters in the room had busted out laughing yesterday at Trump's "sarcasm" gratuitous Apr 2020 #23
You could tell the Doctor thought it was sarcastic. kentuck Apr 2020 #26
"I was kidding!" Nothing says funny like a pandemic joke JDC Apr 2020 #27
There came a point when Joe McCarthy went from viscious and antagonistic to purely toxic. Ford_Prefect Apr 2020 #28
It feels, to me, like we're getting close. Laelth Apr 2020 #43
When you are being sarcastic... Takket Apr 2020 #29
Scott Adams (Dilbert) was my favorite. plimsoll Apr 2020 #30
He is admitting that these briefings are just an opportunity for his clown act cutroot Apr 2020 #31
It's a simple talking point for the treestar Apr 2020 #33
In a stunning reversal, Genghis Khan walks back controversial comments DesertRat Apr 2020 #36
Perfect. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #42
trump is a ******* Lying Clusterfuck. I barely Cha Apr 2020 #40
trump is known for his sense of humor and sarcasm. mercuryblues Apr 2020 #44
Or, visually, since he best responds to pictures robbedvoter Apr 2020 #45
The ol' "I was just joking" excuse. GoCubsGo Apr 2020 #46

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,157 posts)
2. Everything with Trump and learned experts is like a bad game of telephone.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:12 PM
Apr 2020

He'll regurgitate whatever bits and snippets he thinks he heard, and act as though he's an expert because of it.

tblue37

(65,269 posts)
38. But he has a natural ability in these areas, douche know? He amazes the experts with
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:55 PM
Apr 2020

how much he knows about such things!

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
32. to bad he is incapable of learning
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:22 PM
Apr 2020

How many times is he going to step on his tongue?
The end can not come soon enough.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
34. yes ignorance or really really bad humor
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

people believe what the President of the United States says or a least they use to.
Trump, man, you can't say shit like that.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
35. I genuinely do not think there was any sort of levity involved.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:38 PM
Apr 2020

I'm not sure he's capable of it. And he's demonstrated time and time again how ignorant and easily swayed he is.

RussBLib

(9,005 posts)
8. no. you can't just cop out that way, asshole.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:18 PM
Apr 2020

I saw the video. He was in no way being sarcastic. He was being stupid, and conspiratorial, but not sarcastic.

If you truly were being sarcastic, how dare you make light of the fact that 50,000 Americans have now been killed thanks to your ineptitude.

jaxexpat

(6,813 posts)
39. Exactly, How is sarcasm from the office of the president.....
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

possibly acceptable in the midst of a national emergency? much less the actual mouth of the president?
I've been in business meetings where such juvenile foolishness would pink slip such a one into "looking for work" oblivion before the moron even knew what hit him. They used a stick with a sign on it, said "move on", when the manager waved that stick, the whole table sat up and spoke carefully, if at all. Worked kinda like the hook in old vaudeville days used to remove sub-par talent. I say, bring back that hook!

ProfessorGAC

(64,957 posts)
9. Well, Consider This Earl
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:20 PM
Apr 2020

PINO is terrible at everything so he'd be terrible at sarcasm, too!
And, it's an incredibly stupid topic to apply sarcasm, but incredibly stupid still fits the profile.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
10. Yeah, sure 🙄
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

A) That in no way sounded like he was joking or being sarcastic

B) His supporters- many on the right, actually, completely lack the ability to “get” sarcasm. They legit think he’s the chosen one. They’re gonna take his musings at face value. stfu about injecting or ingesting disinfectants, asshole. No matter why you said it. We know you don’t care about people dying, but think about the bad press when someone listens to you and dies. Or kills someone else because of your verbal diarrhea.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
11. Correction. This is his SECOND official response.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

His first, issued by his press secretary earlier today, was that his remarks were taken out of context.

Either way, his defenses are lame. We all know what we heard. Trump was clear, unambiguous, and serious (not sarcastic in any way).

THIS is what the President said we were testing, YESTERDAY, to cure COVID-19:



-Laelth

malaise

(268,845 posts)
12. Ignorance is bliss for Don the Criminally Negligent Con
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

He made it worst by demonstrating that he has no clue about the meaning of sarcasm

UTUSN

(70,671 posts)
13. Note to SHITLER: Dr BIRX reacted in shock without any detecting of sarcasm on her part!
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

She was. like, "DON'T call on me, please!1 I'm doing all I can to work within the system by walking a fine line with you!1 I'm putting my integrity and reputation on the line!1"







lunatica

(53,410 posts)
19. Yeah, her thought bubble in that instant was
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020

“OMG! OMG! OHMYGOD! Don’t look at him! He’s looking at me! WTF do I do?! Shit! Shit! He’s looking at me! He wants me to agree with him! What do I do?! GODPLEASEHELPME! FUCK! OHSHIT OHSHIT!”

Docreed2003

(16,855 posts)
14. Oh yeah total sarcasm
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

Unlike when that commie Michelle Obama tried to force vegetables on our children...smdh. That's how those fuckers think.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
15. Expert: Don't ingest poison. Trump: Ingest poison.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

Calls himself intelligent for intuitively grasping the facts. Well, OK - points to head and implies he has a good brain.

Gets mocked.

Now claims his suggestion - spoken with an inquisitive tone and inflection - was sarcasm. He even looked to the experts for validation and confirmation.

Yeah, right. (don't even have to hear me say that to hear the sarcasm...and we heard Trump make his idiotic remarks)

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
16. Deadly dumbass Donnie is just as bad at covering his stupid ass as he is at everything.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

Donald Trump is a loser and a fool. He's so stupid he gets on national tv to show everybody how much of a loser and fool that he is!

Does he even have enough sense to realize everybody's disgusted with him?

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
17. This is when McConnell and other Republicans have a "you need to resign" meeting with him....
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:33 PM
Apr 2020

Of course, they won't.

I mean, what does it take for them to ask him to resign ? Strip naked, run around the WH press room, act like
a crazed ape and scream for a naked boy or girl ? Of course, then the excuse would be " performance art ".

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
18. Yes Mr. President, because a man with your intelligence knows how to lead us through this mess.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:40 PM
Apr 2020

Now THAT’S SARCASM.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
21. he did not say what you say he said
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:50 PM
Apr 2020

and if he did say it, he didn't mean it the way you make it sound when you say it. He never said that. Round and round and round we go.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. So, if the reporters in the room had busted out laughing yesterday at Trump's "sarcasm"
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

He would have joined them in a hearty laugh, right?

kentuck

(111,069 posts)
26. You could tell the Doctor thought it was sarcastic.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Apr 2020

Not.

It was just a stream of insane consciousness.

JDC

(10,121 posts)
27. "I was kidding!" Nothing says funny like a pandemic joke
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:53 PM
Apr 2020

Just absolutely, ridiculously insane. 50000+ Americans dead, more dying everyday and he has nothing other than his fragile, constantly bruised ego to massage and try to make excuses for. His self absorption is mind boggling.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
28. There came a point when Joe McCarthy went from viscious and antagonistic to purely toxic.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:56 PM
Apr 2020

That's when people said "That's it! Enough!"

When are we going to hear that on camera?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
43. It feels, to me, like we're getting close.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:43 AM
Apr 2020

I look forward to seeing the rats on the R side jumping ship and “distancing themselves” from Agent Orange.



-Laelth

Takket

(21,550 posts)
29. When you are being sarcastic...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:57 PM
Apr 2020

You grin, you snicker, maybe you wink. At the end you laugh it off and say “I’m just kidding”.

Sarcasm has a body language to it.

He was dead serious.

plimsoll

(1,668 posts)
30. Scott Adams (Dilbert) was my favorite.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:16 PM
Apr 2020

Basically saying that Trump was talking about super duper technologies.

OK, Trump says it was sarcasm Scott. So either you were wrong or he's lying. Scott could still be wrong even if Trump is lying, but the contortions you get from this stuff is just hilarious.

(Get the popcorn.)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
33. It's a simple talking point for the
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:25 PM
Apr 2020

Deplorables. That's all they need. Further looking into the point to find it is hollow is never needed. Deplorables don't even know what sarcasm is. They do not recognize it when it is done. So Twitler gave them a mysterious word to use in the argument, and they will use it and be done!

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
36. In a stunning reversal, Genghis Khan walks back controversial comments
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:41 PM
Apr 2020

In stunning reversal, Genghis Khan walks back controversial comments: "When I said we must disembowel our enemies and feast on their entrails, I was being sarcastic."

Mr. Khan was reportedly distressed that much of his bloodthirsty horde took his words literally. "I assumed everyone knew that when I said to display our mortal enemies' severed heads as trophies, my hordes understood I was just trying to get a reaction from the Fake News media."


Cha

(297,029 posts)
40. trump is a ******* Lying Clusterfuck. I barely
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:19 PM
Apr 2020

listen to any clips but I heard him say that until I couldn't stand it anymore. He was NOT being ******* "sarcastic.

trump was being STUPIDrumph as USUAL.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
46. The ol' "I was just joking" excuse.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:24 AM
Apr 2020

It's what right-wingers use when they get called out on their stupidity, ignorance, racism and general hatefulness. Along with "I'm just trying to piss off you damn liberals." It's getting old, and anyone with any intelligence and decency ain't buying it.

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