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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 01:57 PM Apr 2020

Anderson Cooper: 'You just saw the president lying'

Last edited Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Anderson Cooper stunned after Trump claims he was being ‘sarcastic’ about injecting disinfectant: ‘You just saw the president lying’

“What you just heard is the president of the United States just lying,” Cooper said. “It’s fascinating because he’s lying about something that we all witnessed just yesterday of him talking to his own coronavirus task force about research on injecting bleach, disinfectants into people, somehow cleaning them from the inside… there was no sarcasm, we have the tape.”


https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/anderson-cooper-stunned-after-trump-claims-he-was-being-sarcastic-about-injecting-disinfectant-you-just-saw-the-president-lying/


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Anderson Cooper: 'You just saw the president lying' (Original Post) kpete Apr 2020 OP
It was speculation. "Spitballing". Why call it "Sarcasm"? maxsolomon Apr 2020 #1
because even naming it "spitballing" stopdiggin Apr 2020 #10
It's just so weird. "Sarcasm" has been his (and his enabler's) defense for years. maxsolomon Apr 2020 #12
It's the go-to walk back technique when you're called out on a Big Lie localroger Apr 2020 #67
Not sarcasm, not spitballing. Homicide. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #14
Here's the quote: maxsolomon Apr 2020 #15
you're right. there is kind of a "maybe you could?" stopdiggin Apr 2020 #24
Yup. Goes hand in hand with his "Many people are saying....." LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #32
Plausible deniability. maxsolomon Apr 2020 #45
Anyone who has watched Sheldon Cooper understands "sarcasm" if they didn't already. nt Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #64
The task force has a new member at the briefings: LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #70
haha! Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #71
Yes. Nearly all the satirical images in my posts have been mine. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #72
"Maybe you could...." is standard phrasing wnylib Apr 2020 #54
A powerful ultraviolet light? Isn't that a taning bed? If so... RussellCattle Apr 2020 #31
Trump's is the spray-on variety. SergeStorms Apr 2020 #62
I know where he can stick his light... jcgoldie Apr 2020 #42
As he's done before, he likes to come across as knowledgeable about science. LuckyLib Apr 2020 #65
The only word he could come up with n/t busterbrown Apr 2020 #39
There was no sarcasm. Laelth Apr 2020 #2
No sarcasm whatsoever. Paladin Apr 2020 #3
Just kidding, next, move along...stop berating me about a joke, I can be a funny guy. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #4
Trump has NO sense of humor and he does not joke. Marie Marie Apr 2020 #38
I know that and you know that, but his base thinks he is hilarious. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #43
What About The Post Office BS? jayfish Apr 2020 #5
Yes, they were literally demanding funding for pensions Mr.Bill Apr 2020 #6
Passed in the middle of the night The Wizard Apr 2020 #19
No they can't. The dump effect is in full force. He hits you with so much stupid, cayugafalls Apr 2020 #44
There are bi-partisan bills from both the House and Senate Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #59
PressSec McEnemy contradicts tRump. Says he was quoted out of context Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #7
Lying & then trump lies about his lying. He depends on others to excuse it with AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2020 #8
BAck when DT was peddling the "All will be fine" line I told my neighbor DT wasn't telling the napi21 Apr 2020 #58
Plus Trump has done the exact same thing, multiple times. nt localroger Apr 2020 #68
That's all he does dalton99a Apr 2020 #9
We see it everyday, Anderson. spanone Apr 2020 #11
I get it now. It was in Anderson's quote. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #13
Bravo Anderson for calling it exactly what it is - a baldface lie onetexan Apr 2020 #16
Always keep the receipts. gibraltar72 Apr 2020 #17
Been watching him lie for 4 years. Only thing new is how totally insane he sounded. MoonRiver Apr 2020 #18
Sounded? The Wizard Apr 2020 #20
There's Another Thing Diiferent ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #51
Yes, and that is awesome! Finally! MoonRiver Apr 2020 #55
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #60
People look at a president as someone who has integrity rurallib Apr 2020 #21
No disrespect, Anderson, but we've seen that motherfucker lying since the 2016 campaign and before. LudwigPastorius Apr 2020 #22
Sure, Anderson, but the President ONLY lies on days that end in "y" FailureToCommunicate Apr 2020 #23
A Science expert said," We have no economy True Blue American Apr 2020 #26
Whether Trump claims he was just "being sarcastic"... ClusterFreak Apr 2020 #25
Can you just imagine him up before a judge? Wednesdays Apr 2020 #49
Orange was quoted word for word zentrum Apr 2020 #27
"You just saw the president lying." Reader Rabbit Apr 2020 #28
He's a liar and a murderer. warmfeet Apr 2020 #29
The media has been equivocating for far too long about the dUmpsters lies. Are they finally c-rational Apr 2020 #30
I remember the first two long years of Trump when the word "lie" was verbotten on TV news LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #33
K and R....Thank You for posting... Stuart G Apr 2020 #34
Um, announcing that Trump is lying is like announcing that James Buchanan is dead... NNadir Apr 2020 #35
Yeah, and how many pundits lay it out like this? Cha Apr 2020 #37
THANK YOU ANDERSON COOPER!! Cha Apr 2020 #36
CNN has given its last fuck. nolabear Apr 2020 #40
Loser Donald can't even figure out how to lie convincingly. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #41
Love it!!! Beacool Apr 2020 #46
People who are paid to observe and report reality actually observed and reported reality and... Yavin4 Apr 2020 #47
The Secret Service takes "jokes" about presidential assassination seriously DBoon Apr 2020 #48
He forgot the Borat rule of sarcasm. JohnnyRingo Apr 2020 #50
Not only a pathalogical liar Dukkha Apr 2020 #52
Fine. Why the hell would one be sarcastic TexasBushwhacker Apr 2020 #53
The King's speech is due to the fact that English is his second language. Lying is his first. Marcuse Apr 2020 #56
Actual original article linked below, with credit to original reporter Daniel Dale. MFGsunny Apr 2020 #57
We were all LIED TO??? BobTheSubgenius Apr 2020 #61
It's easy to tell when tRump is lying. Wolf Frankula Apr 2020 #63
Yeah he lies rockfordfile Apr 2020 #66
The Lying King colsohlibgal Apr 2020 #69

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
1. It was speculation. "Spitballing". Why call it "Sarcasm"?
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:00 PM
Apr 2020

It was NOT sarcasm.

It was wildly inappropriate speculation, but at heart, he is a Mountebank.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
10. because even naming it "spitballing"
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:37 PM
Apr 2020

reveals a monumental (dumbfounding) level of ignorance on the part of the person throwing "spit."
So they resort to the tried and true .. just bluster and lie.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
12. It's just so weird. "Sarcasm" has been his (and his enabler's) defense for years.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:47 PM
Apr 2020

But it's like they don't know what Sarcasm is.

Or that it's a great catch-all excuse for pathological Sociopathy.

Or they think the shut-ins watching Fox don't know...

localroger

(3,626 posts)
67. It's the go-to walk back technique when you're called out on a Big Lie
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:18 AM
Apr 2020

This is another one of those PR things Trump has been doing for years. When something you've said blows up in your face it was just a joke, I was kidding, sorry you can't tell sarcasm when you hear it. It doesn't matter that this is itself another Big Lie on which you might get called out; it distances you from the first one, and eventually if you do it enough people get tired of even challenging them. Goebbels FTW.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
15. Here's the quote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Apr 2020

“Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, if it's ultraviolet or very powerful light. And I think he said that hasn't been checked but he was going to test it. Then I said what it if you brought the light inside of the body which you could do either through the skin or some other way and I think you said you were going to test that, too. Sounds interesting. Then I see the disinfectant, knocks it out in one minute. Is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside, or almost a cleaning because you see it gets on the lungs. That you're gonna have to use medical doctors. Because it sounds interesting. The way the light killed that in one minute is pretty powerful.”

See the "supposing", the "is there a way"? He's very good at including these "outs" in his rambling gaslighting.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
24. you're right. there is kind of a "maybe you could?"
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:59 PM
Apr 2020

in there. And people are making this out that he said we "should" do this. Not entirely accurate.
But just incredibly and stunningly ignorant .. practically brain dead in any case. He's not going to get much relief from this quarter!

wnylib

(21,457 posts)
54. "Maybe you could...." is standard phrasing
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 07:58 PM
Apr 2020

for Trump. It's how he plants ideas in people's minds. The implication is clear, even though it is not clearly expressed. He's a master at this.

RussellCattle

(1,535 posts)
31. A powerful ultraviolet light? Isn't that a taning bed? If so...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:23 PM
Apr 2020

...no wonder Donald minimizes the risks of the virus. He personally burns the virus off with UV regularly.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
62. Trump's is the spray-on variety.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 01:29 AM
Apr 2020

He stands in a little booth......well, for him a BIG booth, then the spray jets cover him from head to toe with orange spray-tan. It's like an Earl Scheib paint job for human idiots, and it washes off just as quickly.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
65. As he's done before, he likes to come across as knowledgeable about science.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:29 AM
Apr 2020

So he’s “hypothesizing” (in this case riffing) to make it seem like he’s in the loop of what’s happening. Master bullshitter has to be front and center at all times, performing display behavior.

What an asshole!

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. There was no sarcasm.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:02 PM
Apr 2020

“Just kidding” is a classic, first-line defense for low-level people who suffer from Cluster B personality disorders when they are called out for saying something that’s obviously antisocial.

That’s what we just witnessed, and Trump’s response is tragically predictable.

-Laelth

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
3. No sarcasm whatsoever.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

trump lacks anything approaching a genuine ability for sarcasm. He can be hateful, spiteful, bullying, insulting and cruel---but sarcastic? Nope. He was serious as a covid-19 ventilator yesterday.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
4. Just kidding, next, move along...stop berating me about a joke, I can be a funny guy.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:09 PM
Apr 2020

During a pandemic? You were joking? It was sarcastic? Just kidding?

YOUR THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, ACT LIKE IT!

I don't want a joke. I want answers. I don't need your sarcasm, I need your leadership.

You want respect you piece of human filth?

Earn it.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
43. I know that and you know that, but his base thinks he is hilarious.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

To them, dump is a regular guy, joking around and making fun of people, like reporters with disabilities, you know funny stuff...

We should all just lighten up and praise his wonderful sense of humor...

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
5. What About The Post Office BS?
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:13 PM
Apr 2020

All the horseshit he said went unchallenged. (sorry bulls and horses)

This is why the post office is constantly struggling.

https://ips-dc.org/how-congress-manufactured-a-postal-crisis-and-how-to-fix-it/

In 2006, Congress passed a law that imposed extraordinary costs on the U.S. Postal Service. The Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) required the USPS to create a $72 billion fund to pay for the cost of its post-retirement health care costs, 75 years into the future. This burden applies to no other federal agency or private corporation.

If the costs of this retiree health care mandate were removed from the USPS financial statements, the Post Office would have reported operating profits in each of the last six years. This extraordinary mandate created a financial “crisis” that has been used to justify harmful service cuts and even calls for postal privatization. Additional cuts in service and privatization would be devastating for millions of postal workers and customers.


Can the media not hold two thoughts at the same time?

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
19. Passed in the middle of the night
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:04 PM
Apr 2020

to deliberately bankrupt the Post Office for the benefit of lawmakers who invested in private carriers like UPS, FedX, DHL. It's a form of insider trading.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
44. No they can't. The dump effect is in full force. He hits you with so much stupid,
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:14 PM
Apr 2020

you are basically paralyzed and stunned and then he dismisses you and moves on before you can recover your brain function.

I liken the effect to that of the Electric Eel when they stun their prey.

His word jumbles are the equivalent of the electric shock by the eel, except it is the brain that is paralyzed, rather than the entire body.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
59. There are bi-partisan bills from both the House and Senate
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 11:04 PM
Apr 2020

sitting on McConnell's desk that would correct that.

McConnell, as usual, is not doing his job.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,243 posts)
8. Lying & then trump lies about his lying. He depends on others to excuse it with
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:32 PM
Apr 2020

"that's just trump being trump", "he's just kidding", "it was taken out of context", "owning a lib" AND then there's metaphors for his lying: gas lighting, spit-balling, sarcasm, bending the truth, false, not telling the truth. It's really pathological lying

napi21

(45,806 posts)
58. BAck when DT was peddling the "All will be fine" line I told my neighbor DT wasn't telling the
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 09:27 PM
Apr 2020

truth about the seriousness of the virus. She responded "Awe, he's just trying to make the people feel better." That's what his supporters all do, find a reason for anything he says & does.

Then after explaining away all of DT's stupidity, she said "I just hope we don't gets stuck with Joe Biden! His mind is gone. He doesn't even know where he's doing his campaign speech. Names the wrong location all the time." When I asked what she meant by ALL THE TIME, she said well I saw a video of one of them. ONE??? She doesn't admit that when a candidate goes from town to town making speeches, it's real easy to mistake which one you're in this stop.

CaptYossarian

(6,448 posts)
13. I get it now. It was in Anderson's quote.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Apr 2020

Cleansing.

This is his idea of "ethnic cleansing". I would love to see Trump write his own variation of Webster's Dictionary and his interpretation of what words mean to his feeble brain.

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
16. Bravo Anderson for calling it exactly what it is - a baldface lie
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 02:58 PM
Apr 2020

And a dangerous one at that. God forbid, some of his most ignorant rabid followers should try it, though i wouldnt be surprised.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
18. Been watching him lie for 4 years. Only thing new is how totally insane he sounded.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

Dementia getting worse?

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
51. There's Another Thing Diiferent
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 06:01 PM
Apr 2020

Some in mass media are using "lie", " lying" instead of some weak euphemism.
High time.

rurallib

(62,415 posts)
21. People look at a president as someone who has integrity
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

so you can bet somebody will try what he suggested and die

LudwigPastorius

(9,140 posts)
22. No disrespect, Anderson, but we've seen that motherfucker lying since the 2016 campaign and before.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 03:06 PM
Apr 2020

Trump cannot NOT lie. It's in his DNA. His very nature is to spout endless streams of molten bullshit.

Any media outlet that disseminates what Trump says must refute those lies in real time as he is covered, or simply not cover him at all.

Doing anything less is an affront to the principles that journalists aspire to or espouse.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
26. A Science expert said," We have no economy
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:10 PM
Apr 2020

I see no way out, it is like the last days of mad King George”

Pretty blunt there!

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
25. Whether Trump claims he was just "being sarcastic"...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:07 PM
Apr 2020

...or him claiming he likes to grab women "by the pussy" was just "locker room talk", or pick your favorite outlandish comment-turned-about-faced-denial, it's all the same. He says it. It's on tape. The context is clear as day. There is nothing not to understand.

One more time, all together now: He says it, he swears up and down he never said it and blames everyone else, he gets away with it.

It truly is the story of his life.

The question is when this current chapter ends on November 3rd, will he simply get away with it again? Cuz we can't afford the epilogue of four more years.

Wednesdays

(17,373 posts)
49. Can you just imagine him up before a judge?
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:41 PM
Apr 2020

A judge with a modicum of integrity, anyway.

Contempt of court charges would descend on the orange blob like a snowstorm.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
27. Orange was quoted word for word
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:20 PM
Apr 2020

....on the BBC, and in most of Europe. His words went 'round the world. They are appalled and laughing. Words cannot describe the vapid stupidity of this Orange thing.

Reader Rabbit

(2,624 posts)
28. "You just saw the president lying."
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:21 PM
Apr 2020

Journalists should be saying this every time they report on one of his fallacious remarks.

c-rational

(2,593 posts)
30. The media has been equivocating for far too long about the dUmpsters lies. Are they finally
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:22 PM
Apr 2020

waking up?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
33. I remember the first two long years of Trump when the word "lie" was verbotten on TV news
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:27 PM
Apr 2020

Its nice to at least see the MSM identify Trumps blatant lies and call them what they are. Why did it take this long though?

NNadir

(33,518 posts)
35. Um, announcing that Trump is lying is like announcing that James Buchanan is dead...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 04:32 PM
Apr 2020

...that the Earth moves around the sun - although perhaps not to Republicans - that the ocean contains water, and that air contains oxygen.

Why should this be astounding?

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
47. People who are paid to observe and report reality actually observed and reported reality and...
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

without equivocation or whataboutism! Amazing.

DBoon

(22,366 posts)
48. The Secret Service takes "jokes" about presidential assassination seriously
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:27 PM
Apr 2020

We take presidential "jokes" about killing citizens seriously as well

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
50. He forgot the Borat rule of sarcasm.
Fri Apr 24, 2020, 05:52 PM
Apr 2020

After the sarcastic barb, one must delay briefly, then declare: not!!!

Not sarcasm. He was serious, and now it behooves the press to constantly ask "are you shitting us?" To every outlandish statement he makes.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
69. The Lying King
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 09:08 AM
Apr 2020

Who on earth would believe he was sarcastic.....well he is snotty sarcastic a lot but he was being serious in that ridiculous and amazing moment.

I mean when Lysol had to rebut what he said, come on. His knuckle dragging base might buy it, their gullibility when it comes to this Creep knows no bounds.

But anyone with a functioning not brainwashed brain know he was being serious.

Sorry Trumpsters your idiot idol is finally being exposed full throttle to be a dangerous clown.

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