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Kablooie

(18,628 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 01:45 AM Apr 2020

Japanese TV broadcast that Kim Jong Un is dead.

This is from the International Business Times Singapore.
The picture chyron is in Japanese and says the Kim Jong Un is dead.
I don't know where they got it from.

Unconfirmed reports about North Korea leader Kim Jong Un's death appeared online after China sent doctors to North Korea to help determine his current health status


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https://www.ibtimes.sg/korean-peninsula-expert-believes-north-koreas-kim-jong-un-dead-pictures-reports-flood-social-43729?utm_source=Internal&utm_medium=Homepage&utm_campaign=block1-2
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Japanese TV broadcast that Kim Jong Un is dead. (Original Post) Kablooie Apr 2020 OP
Covid? SheltieLover Apr 2020 #1
They say heart surgery but who knows? Kablooie Apr 2020 #2
I'd read he has/had heart problems SheltieLover Apr 2020 #5
Exploratory to find how if he even had one? I mean you do have to be pretty heartless to cstanleytech Apr 2020 #27
Maybe... 2naSalit Apr 2020 #32
Both? Heart disease increases risk big time. Obesity, Hortensis Apr 2020 #33
OK I read that as bleach resort mercuryblues Apr 2020 #38
Lol. New rumor: Trump got the idea of drinking bleach from Kim. Hortensis Apr 2020 #39
LOL mercuryblues Apr 2020 #40
Interesting, trump jumped on the MSM saying they were propagating this still_one Apr 2020 #3
And I think he also demanded SheltieLover Apr 2020 #11
I also do not watch him, and feel the same as you still_one Apr 2020 #13
Remember, everything he says, the opposite is true. n/t Lock him up. Apr 2020 #17
+++ still_one Apr 2020 #18
Not everything............just everything after the first syllable. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #29
The delay in reporting his death is about right. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #4
Still, somebody's gonna get the anti-aircraft gun treatment. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2020 #9
may Satan drag that monster straight to hell Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #6
And take his orange lover with him. Kablooie Apr 2020 #10
If there is a Hell they'll have their reunion. ooky Apr 2020 #44
I just read this from Reuters... BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #7
Interesting SheltieLover Apr 2020 #12
Sending in the Chinese bigwig embalmers? They gonna display him for 10 years like Stalin? Baclava Apr 2020 #24
If true, so what. rusty quoin Apr 2020 #8
Power vacuum with attendant struggles in a rogue state with nuke weapons Cirque du So-What Apr 2020 #16
Or right. Depends on who replaces him really but yes its a gamble. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #30
AND millions of refugees potentially pouring over the Hortensis Apr 2020 #34
Anybody know how to send flowers to the White House? ZZenith Apr 2020 #14
Which, if true, might well lead to several executions Harker Apr 2020 #15
Only several? Squidly Apr 2020 #19
Well... could also be a bloodbath, of course. Harker Apr 2020 #25
That isn't him: I think that's his father's corpse.. Princess Turandot Apr 2020 #20
Think you're right. Looks more like the dad. nt Quixote1818 Apr 2020 #45
That's a relief canetoad Apr 2020 #21
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Apr 2020 #43
That image is all over twitter blogslut Apr 2020 #22
Remember...Everything Trump Touches Dies sop Apr 2020 #23
Nearly everything. His ex wives and his current one are still alive after all. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2020 #26
4:40 a.m. EDT: There's nothing at the Associated Press. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #28
The threat of NKans fleeing COVID and perhaps starvation Hortensis Apr 2020 #35
Katie Tur tweeted this and then deleted a couple octoberlib Apr 2020 #36
If that's true EndlessWire Apr 2020 #46
If this is true then maybe we could have a more peaceful North Korea? dustyscamp Apr 2020 #37
North Korea denies that Kim sent Trump 'a nice note' mercuryblues Apr 2020 #41
Trump says whatever comes into his mind. Iggo Apr 2020 #42
It's a cut and paste job from Kim Jong-il's glass cased cadaver soryang Apr 2020 #47

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
27. Exploratory to find how if he even had one? I mean you do have to be pretty heartless to
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:41 AM
Apr 2020

have your own brother assassinated with nerve toxin.

2naSalit

(86,567 posts)
32. Maybe...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:52 AM
Apr 2020

He got the virus and took -45's stupid drug and it killed him? Maybe that's why the brief briefing yesterday?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Both? Heart disease increases risk big time. Obesity,
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:01 AM
Apr 2020

who knows what else?

One rumor is that Kim is in a "beach resort lockdown" after some around him came down with COVID.

If that picture's real, someone put his or her life, or lives, on the line to get it out, or perhaps it's from a stream of intelligence from a deep agent which was leaked.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
38. OK I read that as bleach resort
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:28 AM
Apr 2020

And I was thinking trump accidently did something good. Boy he is going to be pissed. LOL

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. And I think he also demanded
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 01:52 AM
Apr 2020

reporters not pursue this story, didn't he? I do not watch him. No stomach or patience for bs.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
4. The delay in reporting his death is about right.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 01:49 AM
Apr 2020

It hardly matters the cause of death. At least not in my meaningless opinion.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
7. I just read this from Reuters...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 01:51 AM
Apr 2020

"Exclusive: China sent team including medical experts to advise on North Korea’s Kim, sources say".

"The trip by the Chinese doctors and officials comes amid conflicting reports about the health of the North Korean leader. Reuters was unable to immediately determine what the trip by the Chinese team signaled in terms of Kim’s health.

A delegation led by a senior member of the Chinese Communist Party’s International Liaison Department left Beijing for North Korea on Thursday, two of the people said. The department is the main Chinese body dealing with neighbouring North Korea."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-politics-exclusive-idUSKCN2263DW

And Newsweek...
https://www.newsweek.com/china-sends-doctors-north-korea-tv-report-fuels-speculation-kim-jong-un-dead-1500181

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. AND millions of refugees potentially pouring over the
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:14 AM
Apr 2020

border into China. It's been a long-time concern.

China keeps military along that border for that reason, in addition to the usual ones, who are supposed to be prepared to halt and feed and shelter potentially millions.

And now COVID.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
20. That isn't him: I think that's his father's corpse..
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 02:22 AM
Apr 2020

This photo is from early April. He looks a step away from congestive heart failure, bloated as well as overweight. He apparently had some kind of a cardiac intervention recently, described in one of the unsubstantiated rumors as 'an emergency stent implantation'. If that's true, he likely had a heart attack, or was on the verge of one, and then did not regain consciousness after the procedure.



blogslut

(37,999 posts)
22. That image is all over twitter
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 02:53 AM
Apr 2020

Some people say it's been shopped from an image of his dad(?)

I don't know. For every tweet from a bluecheck account, there's a bunch of replies denying or confirming. Just saw an article from an Australian site that says he's "been seen" on one of their beaches.

He's dead and he's alive and has been twitter-compared to Schroedinger's Cat.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
31. Nearly everything. His ex wives and his current one are still alive after all.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:46 AM
Apr 2020

Unless of course any of them have dirt on Putin in which case their days are numbered as he does so like to have people assassinated.

Response to Kablooie (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. The threat of NKans fleeing COVID and perhaps starvation
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:21 AM
Apr 2020

is very real. The prospect of potentially millions of NK refugees pouring over their borders has long been a big concern to China and South Korea. There's speculation, for instance, that in such an event NK's large military would be fighting for supplies and survival, leading to chaos and civil war.

NK's been denying COVID there. Last week there was reported panic buying among the relatively privileged residents of Pyoangyang. Of course, we know how routinely that word's misused. Worried people stocking up seems more likely from the description, but still an indicator of something.

From NYT 3 days ago:

Three generations of totalitarian misrule have left North Korea woefully incapable of containg, or even suppressing, a coronavirus epidemic. The same intelligent (and malevolent) design that has turned the country into the world’s most exquisitely oppressive police state has also inadvertently converted it into a prospective infection deathtrap.

North Korea’s notorious gulag camps and prisons, as well as its military barracks, are petri-dishes-in-waiting for communicable disease. The government’s worst-in-class transparency practices ensure that it will automatically censor information (bad news in particular) that might help identify the coronavirus and limit its spread. Longstanding economic failure means that much of the population is poorly nourished and vulnerable to infection.

North Korea ranked 193rd out of 195 countries in Johns Hopkins University’s 2019 survey of global health security. Decades of ruthless control on foreign travel and contact with outsiders mean that many of its people may also be unusually “immunologically naïve” (yes: this is an actual epidemiological term of art).

EndlessWire

(6,513 posts)
46. If that's true
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:32 AM
Apr 2020

I think it means that he is brain dead, and they want to pull the plug after showing the Chinese, to make absolutely sure he isn't going to wake up. The Chinese would have a vested interest in this matter.

And, other parts of their government and military might need the unbiased opinion of an outsider (Yup, he's really most sincerely dead) in order to mitigate reactions.

Since I remember Otto Warmbier, I really don't care about Lil Kim's fate, except that I wish NK would get a chance to be free now.

If Trump goes to the funeral, I will vomit.

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
37. If this is true then maybe we could have a more peaceful North Korea?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:36 AM
Apr 2020

Trump could possibly try for another peace talk with the new leader

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
41. North Korea denies that Kim sent Trump 'a nice note'
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 07:34 AM
Apr 2020

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-19/north-korea-denies-that-kim-sent-trump-a-nice-note

SEOUL — North Korea on Sunday dismissed as “ungrounded” President Trump’s comment that he recently received “a nice note” from the North’s leader, Kim Jong Un.
Trump said during a press briefing on the coronavirus pandemic Saturday that “I received a nice note from him recently. It was a nice note. I think we’re doing fine.” Trump also defended now-stalled nuclear diplomacy with Kim, saying the U.S. would have been at war with North Korea if he had not been elected.

North Korea’s Foreign Ministry said in a statement that there was no letter addressed to Trump recently by “the supreme leadership,” a reference to Kim.

It said it would examine why the U.S. leadership released “the ungrounded story” to the media.


“The relations between the top leaders of [North Korea] and the U.S. are not an issue to be taken up just for diversion nor it should be misused for meeting selfish purposes,” the statement said.

Kim and Trump have met three times and exchanged letters and envoys on many occasions since 2018, when they began talks on North Korea’s nuclear weapons program. The two leaders have built some personal relationships, and Trump once said that he and Kim “fell in love.”




At the time it seemed odd to me that NK would take the time to address this. I thought maybe they wanted to embarrass trump. It didn't quite fit that narrative. This makes more sense. Kim couldn't have sent the letter...Dead men tell no tales.
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