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Fla Dem

(23,645 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:28 PM Apr 2020

Joe Biden has committed to selecting a woman to be his Vice Presidential running mate. (POLL)

At this point in time, who would you advise Joe Biden to select?
If you select Other please post who you would like to see selected.

Listed in alphabetical order.
Thank you


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Stacey Abrams 2018 Georgia Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate
2 (4%)
Val Demings Representative Florida
2 (4%)
Tammy Duckworth Senator, Illinois
3 (6%)
Kamala Harris Senator California
17 (35%)
Amy Klobuchar Senator Minnesota
6 (13%)
Katie Porter Representative California
0 (0%)
Susan Rice Former Ambassador to the UN, President Obama's US National Security Advisor
2 (4%)
Elizabeth Warren Senator Massachsetts
11 (23%)
Gretchen Whitmer, Governor Michigan
1 (2%)
Other
4 (8%)
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Joe Biden has committed to selecting a woman to be his Vice Presidential running mate. (POLL) (Original Post) Fla Dem Apr 2020 OP
Elizabeth Warren Matthew28 Apr 2020 #1
I like them all. He will make the right choice for his Presidency. hlthe2b Apr 2020 #2
Yes elleng Apr 2020 #3
I like several candidates on this list and as others said, spooky3 Apr 2020 #4
The only reason I didn't select Senator Warren is I want her to be Senate Majority Leader Siwsan Apr 2020 #5
Will Schumer give up the post? Bettie Apr 2020 #7
Just my fantasy. She'd be a great as his VP. She'd have been great as our candidate, too! Siwsan Apr 2020 #11
Honestly, the thing that would make me most happy Bettie Apr 2020 #21
Not going to happen Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #27
There's really nothing to "get over" Siwsan Apr 2020 #29
Good Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #32
I know. Siwsan Apr 2020 #33
Other: whomever he chooses. nt crickets Apr 2020 #6
Can anyone explain exactly why Kamala is a better choice than others, please? Alex4Martinez Apr 2020 #8
Alex4Martinez..... Upthevibe May 2020 #43
As District Attorney... Alex4Martinez May 2020 #45
Alex4Martinez....Thank you! Upthevibe May 2020 #47
Michelle Obama. beachbumbob Apr 2020 #9
Right now I am leaning toward Sally Yates. StevieM Apr 2020 #10
I had not thought about Susan Rice as a candidate ... GeorgeGist Apr 2020 #12
Warren! nt Quixote1818 Apr 2020 #13
I would prefer Warren, but marked Harris. Warren has a Republican Gov and he would replace her. LizBeth Apr 2020 #14
Yes that is a consideration. But add Klobuchar as Atty General. Fla Dem Apr 2020 #19
Ok. Works for me. I do like our women candidates. LizBeth Apr 2020 #20
No. That is a demotion. DURHAM D Apr 2020 #22
We need someone aggressive as AG to prosecute the Trump Mafia. Fla Dem Apr 2020 #23
Preet Bharrara !!! OnDoutside May 2020 #46
Andrew Cuomo lynintenn Apr 2020 #15
He like his father before him has declined whistler162 Apr 2020 #41
I predicted Warren months ago. Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #16
For some reason, I'm beginning to think it could be Warren... CTyankee Apr 2020 #24
I love this video from Senator Harris Gothmog Apr 2020 #17
Any one of them would be great musclecar6 Apr 2020 #18
My favs are Warren or Katie Porter...but Biden owes a huge debt to Clyburn and our black Karadeniz Apr 2020 #25
Susan Rice would be a really good pick folks.. she has been in that realm.. Peacetrain Apr 2020 #26
She's never run for political office, Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #35
You left out Senator Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #28
Only had space for 9 and the "Other". Which is why I asked to submit "other" names. Fla Dem Apr 2020 #30
I think Warren is very useful where she is Victor_c3 Apr 2020 #31
Who helps deliver a marginal state we need in the EC? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2020 #34
Correct answer. nt DURHAM D Apr 2020 #36
If either Biden or Warren were ten years younger, I'd say Warren... Drunken Irishman Apr 2020 #37
Offense, Defense and Governing will be Klobuchar judeling Apr 2020 #38
Kick For Sunday Crowd Fla Dem Apr 2020 #39
Kicked for Upthevibe! Fla Dem Apr 2020 #40
Kick....n/t Upthevibe May 2020 #42
Hillary Fucking Clinton. Because fuck their sadz, and I'm tired of their bullshit. Volaris May 2020 #44

hlthe2b

(102,218 posts)
2. I like them all. He will make the right choice for his Presidency.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:33 PM
Apr 2020

and the talents of the others will undoubtedly be directly or indirectly incorporated in ways that will best aid the enormous task before us.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
5. The only reason I didn't select Senator Warren is I want her to be Senate Majority Leader
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:49 PM
Apr 2020

I think that would make heads explode and maybe even trigger some early 'retirements'.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. Will Schumer give up the post?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:54 PM
Apr 2020

I don't think so and the Senate is a boy's club, if he wants the post, they'll all vote for him.

But she'd be great at it.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
11. Just my fantasy. She'd be a great as his VP. She'd have been great as our candidate, too!
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:09 PM
Apr 2020

If Mitch should somehow hang on to his seat, but the Democrats take the Senate - ok, that would be sweet, as well. However, I hope he loses, and loses by a LOT.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
21. Honestly, the thing that would make me most happy
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

would be for Moscow Mitch and Leningrad Lindsay to go down with that horrible orange thing.

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
8. Can anyone explain exactly why Kamala is a better choice than others, please?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 03:55 PM
Apr 2020

She's from my state, I have my opinions about her and don't find her to be bold and progressive enough to face the challenges of tomorrow.

If it's about a more electable ticket, fine, but what are her progressive democratic credentials?

How would she transform our culture and our nation?

Upthevibe

(8,035 posts)
43. Alex4Martinez.....
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:01 PM
May 2020

I'm trying to get feedback on the various possible candidates. I'm (obviously - LOL) a Californian too and I think I heard there was some kind of controversy regarding something that happened when she was Attorney General here. I didn't do any kind of real checking. Do you know of a particular incident? Thank you!

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
45. As District Attorney...
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:44 PM
May 2020

She was heavy-handed in the way many career-advancement oriented folks are.

I was upset by this at the time and watched as she rose in the ranks to her current status.

Not so much a champion of the people as, say, Liz Warren and others who are unequivocal in their compassion for the unfortunate.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/12/kamala-harris-made-history-then-her-history-caught-up-with-her/

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
14. I would prefer Warren, but marked Harris. Warren has a Republican Gov and he would replace her.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:14 PM
Apr 2020

So I think we have to leave her there. Biden said she would be great at Schumer's job and I agree. I want Schumer out and Warren in. Give us Pelosi, Warren and Harris as VP and I like how that looks.

Fla Dem

(23,645 posts)
23. We need someone aggressive as AG to prosecute the Trump Mafia.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:22 PM
Apr 2020

No wishy-washy stuff. Your suggestion?

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
41. He like his father before him has declined
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 06:33 PM
Apr 2020
https://sites.middlebury.edu/presidentialpower/2015/01/02/why-didnt-mario-run-that-was-always-the-question/

"So why didn’t Cuomo run? When, in December 1991, on the cusp of the filing deadline for the 1992 New Hampshire primary, Cuomo announced his decision not to seek the presidency, he cited his obligations as Governor of New York, noting in particular the need to negotiate a solution with statehouse Republicans to a burgeoning budget deficit. "

Now Letitia James as US Attorney General is another story.

CTyankee

(63,901 posts)
24. For some reason, I'm beginning to think it could be Warren...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020

something a Biden supporter said (I don't remember who) made me think that it was her and it fit a strategy that the Biden campaign was formulating.

this is fascinating. It could occupy lots of my time, something I need right now...

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
18. Any one of them would be great
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:39 PM
Apr 2020

I voted in the poll for Amy, but it really is a toss up between Kamala, Elizabeth and Amy for different reasons in my opinion. I think Joe could work well with any of these 3 ( and all the rest in contention) and he’ll have to weigh the plus and minus points.

Gretchen Witmer is a new entry on the scene who is interesting and along with Amy, either one of those might be good to bring in Michigan along with the neighboring states like Wisconsin and Minn.

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
26. Susan Rice would be a really good pick folks.. she has been in that realm..
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:39 PM
Apr 2020

She has the knowledge, the ability, drive the right out of their minds..

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
35. She's never run for political office,
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:25 PM
Apr 2020

doesn’t help flip a swing state and gives the GOP an excuse to bring up Benghazi again.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
31. I think Warren is very useful where she is
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:00 PM
Apr 2020

I’d be afraid that giving her the VP slot would limit her ability to impact future policy. She’s very influential where she is. That being said, I love her opinions on policy. She’s 100% correct in my book.

Harris was my first choice for the presidency. I’d be very excited to see her get the VP slot. To me, she seems to have the presence and persona required of a president. Being either VP or Secretary of State would be an excellent stepping stone for her.

There are many wonderful future leaders in our party. I’m really struck by the fact that so many of them happen to be women.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
34. Who helps deliver a marginal state we need in the EC?
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:23 PM
Apr 2020

Whitmer and maybe Klobuchar are the only two names on the list that tick that box, I think. And Harris and Warren are both out for the same reason and likely more effective in the Senate anyway.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
37. If either Biden or Warren were ten years younger, I'd say Warren...
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:26 PM
Apr 2020

But as is, Warren is going to be 71 in a couple months and Biden will be turning 78 shortly before taking office.

If, somehow, Biden serves a full eight years (I suspect he won't - but for political reasons won't ever announce he'll be a one-term president because it makes him a lame duck on day one), we'd potentially have a Veep positioned to run for a term of her own who could be 79 years old.

That takes a valuable senator out of the senate with likely no prospect of her ever becoming president. It just doesn't seem logical.

judeling

(1,086 posts)
38. Offense, Defense and Governing will be Klobuchar
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:07 PM
Apr 2020

Biden's main task is to win, after that the bigger the win the better, and then securing 2022 and the future (because we need more then just 2 years).

I do not see him picking Warren. The age issue even more then ideology plays against it. So while Warren would be the most popular choice in the Midwest blue wall states Klobuchar is the second and not that far behind. Absolutely locking down the Midwest allows Biden to play on a broader field.

While Harris showed during the campaign that she could deliver a devastating attack, she was not that good o defense and it appeared that her attacks needed preparation and she did not show great ability to at least appear to ad-lib and did not seem to be able to play defense. While Debate skills are not going to play a big part in the coming election the press interplay will. Again Klobuchar showed herself quite adept at that indeed many of the most devastating attacks came from her in what appeared to be an off hand manner. "There are three women on the stage' was perhaps the best attack of the cycle as it probably robbed of any momentum af a pretty good moment.

But for a more in depth discussion of the choices we must look at the actual political landscape and dynamic not the ones we wish were true.

This election is not about policy it is about Trump. This was true even before Covid-19 and is only more true now. The thought that any VP pick will energize our base more then just Trump is marginal at best. We are more united and determined then we have been for decades. 2018 showed the limits of a base election. Plenty for the House, short for the Senate. For a huge EC win and a comfortable chance at the Senate we will need more than the base. We are actually well on the way towards that.

Biden has already more then even upped I plus 65+ that alone put Fla. more in play. Trump is much more vulnerable with other demographics then people think. For big sweeping game changing wins we have to gain in Red America not win just gain. This is a zero sum game where what Trump doesn't get we do. Trump is slowly bleeding support with Farmers. Business, The Military, and Veterans. People need to understand that almost a third of Republicans are in play. While Trump shows pretty united Republican support on the topline the strong support is only around 60%. That means that there is actually room to grow there when any support he loses that we gain almost counts as double. To actually play offense we have to play on the Red side of the field, for that Klobuchar again is the choice.

To secure any gains long term we need to effectively govern right away. For that we cannot have ay major internal fights. Biden as already indicated the way he wants to go and that is broad and immediate. In this moment it will be quantity that will have a quality all its own. We have a tremendous amount of popular legislation backlogged in the Senate that could be freed quickly. But to do that we cannot allow the Republicans to go into deep opposition. Instead we need to exploit the Post-Trump divisions that will be exposed. Again Klobuchar is in prime position, not only does she understand the dynamics of the Democratic caucus as chair of the policy committee, she understands the dynamics of the Republicans. She has been one of the designated Republican whisperers for a decade. Joe has indicated he wants an Executive Officer for VP and Amy fits the bill perfectly.

So
On Defense she takes Minnesota off the board and helps secure the Blue Wall Midwest.
On Offense she plays better in Red America then any other candidate and with a Zero Sum game help with down ballot in the Senate.
In governing she would be an effective alter-ego whose pragmatism would blunt Republican opposition and force their reckoning to happen in 2022 as the party tries to determine what they are.

Trump attacking her from the left attempting to divide our base only makes her play better on the right and middle. Attacking her from the right flies in the face of her image and only helps her on the left.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
44. Hillary Fucking Clinton. Because fuck their sadz, and I'm tired of their bullshit.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:15 PM
May 2020

Given the poll options however, I'd want Sen.Prof. Warren, thank you very much.

And Hillary can be the next AttyGen, and can get to sign her name to the papers that can put these clowns in prison.

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