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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 04:56 PM Apr 2020

Trump is not even a good liar.

He is too stupid to be a competent liar, much les a good liar.

His appeal is to racism, and to greed. The greedy rich get more money, and the racist 90% of his voters see Trump being an open racist.

Trump can openly say what many really wish to say openly.

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Trump is not even a good liar. (Original Post) guillaumeb Apr 2020 OP
he's a walking, talking exploit unblock Apr 2020 #1
"..media gives him far more chances than they'd ever give anyone else"+1, Right now they should be uponit7771 Apr 2020 #2
even then it would be 4 years too late unblock Apr 2020 #3
And fundamental to your analysis is giving the other person the benefit of the doubt. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #5
this is what steams me mnmoderatedem Apr 2020 #4
He was terrible at business, he is terrible at playing the President, guillaumeb Apr 2020 #6
being the boss most of his life he has never had the need to lie effectively nt msongs Apr 2020 #7
He never learned to work either. eom guillaumeb Apr 2020 #8
...proving that sometimes practice DOESN'T make perfect. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2020 #9
True. At this point in his pathetic life, who nkows how many lies he has told in total? eom guillaumeb Apr 2020 #10
Example of a good liar: Putin Walleye Apr 2020 #11
Putin is also smart. Trump thinks that he is smart. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #12
Dunning meet Kruger Walleye Apr 2020 #15
Indeed. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #17
He may be a bad liar. HOWEVER, Dirty Socialist Apr 2020 #13
Proving that one can fool some of the people all of the time. eom guillaumeb Apr 2020 #21
I bet he could pass a lie detector test. nt doc03 Apr 2020 #14
trump is a sociopathic psychopath.. he doesn't care. Cha Apr 2020 #16
And his bad lies force his followers to twist into knots guillaumeb Apr 2020 #18
To the point of drinking the bleach.. you Cha Apr 2020 #22
True. In a local media message board, Trumpers are denying he ever said guillaumeb Apr 2020 #23
His supporters WANT him to lie. Goodheart Apr 2020 #19
That too, is insane. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #20
His followers know he lies. They don't care. In fact, they like that he lies. stopbush Apr 2020 #24
And the most insane part is that they seem to feel that Trump's lies will not affect them. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #25

unblock

(52,123 posts)
1. he's a walking, talking exploit
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:05 PM
Apr 2020

his personality "works" because it exploits some basic bugs in many peoples' algorithms for understanding other people.

most notably, people know someone's lying when they act sheepish or admit it or look like they're trying to weasel out of an awkward situation. if someone reacts angrily and seemingly confidently when challenged, and doubles down on the lie, people think they must be telling the truth because that's how they think a truth-teller might react, and certainly not how a liar would react when caught.

donnie learned to exploit this by simply never showing any signs of acknowledging he's lying, or of acknowledging he's wrong, or of acknowledging anything adverse to him.

so many people fall for this again and again, because that heuristic works pretty darn well on the vast majority of people. but it fails miserably with donnie because he will *never* admit anything adverse.


and it's not just the republican core that falls for it. the media gives him far more chances than they'd ever give anyone else who lied anything close to this level. certainly not any democrat.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
2. "..media gives him far more chances than they'd ever give anyone else"+1, Right now they should be
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

... treating Trump like he's a lunatic

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. And fundamental to your analysis is giving the other person the benefit of the doubt.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

But many people learn that certain people simply cannot be trusted. Not all people, or scam artists would have no target for their scams. But yes, many do fall for lies if the liar sounds authoritative. And part of the problem with Trump is that the media never exposed him for what he really is. His main exposure happened when he was the star of The Apprentice.Many obviously saw the staged show as reality.

The US corporate media knew that Trump was a fraud, but he was great for their ratings, and the advertising revenue associated with high ratings, so they deliberately covered up for his lies, or presented them as simply another opinion. The same treatment was given to Reagan, who lied nearly as much as Trump, and was equally as racist as Trump, but the media created the myth of Reagan that many now accept as reality.

mnmoderatedem

(3,722 posts)
4. this is what steams me
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:12 PM
Apr 2020

he is such a BAD liar, completely unconvincing every time he rips of yet another absurd statement. Yet the trump leg humpers will believe anything he says no matter the lack of credibility.

With as much practice as he gets regarding lying, you'd think he would be better at it by now.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
6. He was terrible at business, he is terrible at playing the President,
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

and terrible at pretending to be normal.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
13. He may be a bad liar. HOWEVER,
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 06:16 PM
Apr 2020

He knows how to pick out suckers and rubes. And the biggest suckers of all are evangelical christians.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. And his bad lies force his followers to twist into knots
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 07:14 PM
Apr 2020

defending what he said, or denying that he said it.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
23. True. In a local media message board, Trumpers are denying he ever said
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 07:19 PM
Apr 2020

bleach might be a cure. Even linking to video of the rally does not penetrate the armor of stupidity.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
25. And the most insane part is that they seem to feel that Trump's lies will not affect them.
Sat Apr 25, 2020, 08:40 PM
Apr 2020

Like the "liberate the state" people who assume that they personally are in no danger.

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