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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumstRump has now spilled more red ink than first 41 POTUS combined
July 4, 1776 - January 20, 1993 total accumulated public debt: $4,188,092,107,183.60
Under conservative republican DJT, as of April 23, 2020: $4,757,850,779,650.40
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
Beakybird
(3,332 posts)ffr
(22,668 posts)That would be great.
Patterson
(1,529 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)True or False?
Is $4,188,092,107,183.60 < $4,757,850,779,650.40
True or False?
Is $4,188,092,107,183.60 the combined debt of the first 41 Presidents
True or False
Is $4,757,850,779,650.40 the debt run up by the OrangeShitstain?
If all three are true then it seems the OP has a valid point.
Now I am sure you know that, but in an effort to show intelligence you want to dismiss what is true because the numbers aren't adjusted for inflation.
So we have a pResident who throws out lies as easily as he breathes, a guy who never admits to provable lies, a guy who gets elected by people who don't give a shit about his lies, rather they embrace them. A guy who is creating chaos in the world and is close to bringing the United States to it's knees, still supported by his fucking asshole enabling shitheads.
Yet you want to make sure the OP is being fair and adjusts the numbers. That is really not a good path to take, unless you want to provide aid the those who voted for this ShitStain. If you can't tell, I am fucking done with taking that path. The Shithead MOTHERFUCKER, elected by these anti democracy, ignorant, racist, pieces of shit ran up more debt that the first 41 Presidents combined.
Let them fucking deal with that. If you haven't learned yet, here is exactly what is going to happen at the end of the year for every Democrat that wins elections, including the President. Suddenly these same ignorant, racist, pieces of shit are going to be FUCKING SCREAMING that we have too much debt and the Democrats CAN'T enact the programs to clean the piles of shit left by the ignorant Mother Fuckers, that these people elected!!!!
FFS, adjust it for inflation for them, seriously? Maybe then we can fucking negotiate with them about austerity while doing the clean up, maybe we can even reach out across the aisle and work with these ignorant fucks.
Patterson
(1,529 posts)However, in this specific case, with these specific "$&@#%*s, I guess I must pragmatically go with the OP.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)It is the fucking low road, and it is the path to crush these assholes. To be blunt again, don't care if some don't approve, have at it, but don't try to come in and police it. The nuanced, try to educate them approach is a fools errand, they understand one thing and there is no valid excuse for supporting tRump. Will some come along through education? Look at how few have peeled off.
All of those reformed Repuke hires on MSNBC, you watch how fast Ruhle, Schmidt, Mitchell, Wallace, Todd, et al, spin on a dime in the Fall and focus on the Debt problem, then turn it up after the election, (assuming Biden win) then turn it up to 11 in January. The same playbook works because some decide to negotiate, explore the numbers, look for common ground, then lather, rinse, repeat.
Edit: There were three original questions asked of you, all True or False, all can be answered TRUE OR FALSE.
Are any numbers in the OP false rendering the statement false?
Patterson
(1,529 posts)ffr
(22,668 posts)FFS, adjust it for inflation for them, seriously? Maybe then we can fucking negotiate with them about austerity while doing the clean up, maybe we can even reach out across the aisle and work with these ignorant fucks.
So much truth.
We are deducting debate points for not adjusting numbers while the opponents are out and out lying. Then the repukes laugh at these same people for being over educated and nuanced.
It is like we didn't just live through this with Obama. Anyone over thirty has seen it happen once in their adult life. For each additional 10 years add one or more two times. FFS, the same asshole Repukes will say deficits don't matter and then do a 180 degree turn as soon as they are evicted from office.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,315 posts)The repugnant, repuking Russiapublicans are already beginning their transition to screaming about the deficit -- see Moscow Mitch's comments about free public money to bail out blue states. They know they will take a beating in the next elections if we turn out enough to overwhelm their cheats. They haven't changed their "2 Santas scheme" in 40 years.
Somehow we have to get people to remember from one election to the next. I'm really tired of riding this deadly pendulum.