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denem

(11,045 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:13 AM Apr 2020

GOP pollster: 'It's a total shift from where we were a few months ago'

Nervous Republicans See Trump Sinking, and Taking Senate With Him

... Glen Bolger, a longtime Republican pollster, said the landscape for his party had become far grimmer compared with the pre-virus plan to run almost singularly around the country’s prosperity.

“With the economy in free-fall, Republicans face a very challenging environment and it’s a total shift from where we were a few months ago,” Mr. Bolger said. “Democrats are angry, and now we have the foundation of the campaign yanked out from underneath us.”

... Representative Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma, said the president had to change his tone and offer more than a campaign of grievance.

“You got to have some hope to sell people,” Mr. Cole said. “But Trump usually sells anger, division and ‘we’re the victim.’”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/politics/trump-election-briefings.html

Here the deal Rep. Cole -
Plan A: '"anger, division and 'we're the victim'"
There Is No Plan B.
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GOP pollster: 'It's a total shift from where we were a few months ago' (Original Post) denem Apr 2020 OP
This can be another 2008 RandySF Apr 2020 #1
I remember the result coming in from Indiana denem Apr 2020 #2
Yeah, it was crazy that Obama won Indiana! Wanderlust988 Apr 2020 #5
Being a Hoosier D_Master81 Apr 2020 #21
"Our noble plan to destroy the country seems to be endangered! For some reason, the more we destroy, struggle4progress Apr 2020 #3
Make America Grimly Awful? Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #4
Yikes! Mike Nelson Apr 2020 #6
"Democrats are angry"? What about Republicans? Beartracks Apr 2020 #7
So naturally not fooled Apr 2020 #8
Sure, everything changed Scarsdale Apr 2020 #9
this is the analogous to the ocean drawing back at the beach in prepping for that blue tidal wave beachbumbob Apr 2020 #10
Representative Tom Cole (R-Ok): "Trump usually sells anger, division and 'we're the victim.'" sop Apr 2020 #11
The frenzy here over 'nothingburgers' sometimes amazes me ... good grief NotHardly Apr 2020 #12
It's on the record. denem Apr 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Apr 2020 #13
Should never have been close! augyboston Apr 2020 #14
Plus a little help from Fox & Limpballs, and Putin n/t Pluvious Apr 2020 #19
"One prominent G.O.P. senator said the nightly sessions were so painful he could not bear watching a Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #16
It's really not that different Downtown Hound Apr 2020 #17
I think the "shit show" is going to get worse before its gets any better. honest.abe Apr 2020 #18
Shocked, that their little experiment in anarchy went so badly. lindysalsagal Apr 2020 #20
And this is BEFORE even Democrats face the stunning reality that Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
Boo. Hoo. crickets Apr 2020 #22
This is all on REPUBLICANS!! NOT on trump. He's THEIR baby. Lock, stock and barrel. BComplex Apr 2020 #23
"Total shift"? I don't think so. But if they want that excuse, let them have it. n/t blitzen Apr 2020 #25
That has always been the republican model nakocal Apr 2020 #26
GOOD Skittles Apr 2020 #27
Good. I hope it sinks them forever. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #28
And they always see themselves as the victims MagickMuffin Apr 2020 #29

RandySF

(58,387 posts)
1. This can be another 2008
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:17 AM
Apr 2020

where they lose up and down the ballot in places we're not even thinking about at the moment.

Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
5. Yeah, it was crazy that Obama won Indiana!
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:42 AM
Apr 2020

I remember that too. Although I think Indiana will be out reach, but I could see a surprise state like Texas and South Carolina going blue if there's a 2008 type landslide.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
21. Being a Hoosier
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:04 PM
Apr 2020

It was a beautiful thing to see Indiana in blue on that map. Unfortunately I think that really pissed off the GOP in the state and it’s gone hard right ever since. Republicans all across the state in power anymore.

struggle4progress

(118,201 posts)
3. "Our noble plan to destroy the country seems to be endangered! For some reason, the more we destroy,
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:27 AM
Apr 2020

the more the country turns against us! It's so unfair! Who should we blame? Democrats? Media? China? "

Mike Nelson

(9,941 posts)
6. Yikes!
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:10 AM
Apr 2020

... at first, I thought things had changed for Crooked Donald and the Republicans. They said it was different than a "few months ago." Happily, elections prospects are the same as before the Coronavirus... Republicans have lost big everywhere, including a record-breaking midterm. They are pretending to have a short memory... but as long as they keep losing, who cares?

Beartracks

(12,787 posts)
7. "Democrats are angry"? What about Republicans?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:55 AM
Apr 2020

They should be angry for being sold a bill of goods. Granted, it was a very obvious bill of goods, and the should have wised up long before now, but still...

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Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
9. Sure, everything changed
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:05 AM
Apr 2020

for the worse. However if the vote on impeaching the Giant Peach was held today, the results would be exactly the same. The gop would NEVER admit HE was a yuuuge mistake. They cheered him on, through every disgusting thing he did. Even now, name one who willingly speaks out about what a disaster he has caused. The man is an idiot, and always has been.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
10. this is the analogous to the ocean drawing back at the beach in prepping for that blue tidal wave
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:49 AM
Apr 2020

the excuses building before the election, nice. They hear the footsteps of massive stampede to the democratic party

sop

(10,080 posts)
11. Representative Tom Cole (R-Ok): "Trump usually sells anger, division and 'we're the victim.'"
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:51 AM
Apr 2020

Finally Republicans admit Trump (and the entire Republican party) has been selling "anger" and "division" all along to get elected. For decades they've been denying their cynical strategy, claiming they were just patriotic "real" Americans who only wanted to "make America great again."

But, now that Trump's criminal negligence has destroyed the strong economy he inherited from Obama, and 53,000 people are dead, Cole complains the GOP has fallen "victim" to Trump's angry and divisive tone, and his "campaign of grievance." It's time to “have some hope to sell people," Cole says, after years of ridiculing Obama's message of hope and change.

Go fuck yourself, Mr. Cole. You, Trump and the rest of your Republican party.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
12. The frenzy here over 'nothingburgers' sometimes amazes me ... good grief
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:56 AM
Apr 2020

it is just hype and nothing means nothing while spinning or weaving tales amongst the 'believers'. Facts, real data, analysis, and hyping would be a nice change every now and again.

Response to denem (Original post)

augyboston

(193 posts)
14. Should never have been close!
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:18 AM
Apr 2020

Okay, it took all this for tRump and the despicable GOP to get to the brink! Even now, I read polls where this lunatic hate filled idiot is still competitive. Un-freaking believable.

2016 coming after eight years of peace and prosperity should never have been close. Yes, the people did not vote for Don the Con; but it was still close enough to deliver him an electoral victory.

Even in Nazi Germany the fascists came to power because of a devastating economic depression. What's America's excuse for 2016?!? The only thing I can come up with is HRC was a woman and President Obama was a black man. Shame on you America for your sexism and racism! One can only hope that this country will put away it's hatred and prejudice and learn what happens when all reason is thrown out the window for one's ignorant bias!

Demovictory9

(32,413 posts)
16. "One prominent G.O.P. senator said the nightly sessions were so painful he could not bear watching a
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 08:06 AM
Apr 2020

One prominent G.O.P. senator said the nightly sessions were so painful he could not bear watching any longer.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
17. It's really not that different
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:34 AM
Apr 2020

I know this is a common GOP talking point, but he's polling right about where he's been all along. The GOP just wants to pretend like he's way more popular than he is, so now it's all, "The Virus! The Virus ruined it for him!" But he was always a loser who had little chance of reelection.

honest.abe

(8,607 posts)
18. I think the "shit show" is going to get worse before its gets any better.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:35 AM
Apr 2020

The economy is going to tank this summer and doubt it will recover enough to matter by election day. The "good" economy was the only significant thing Trump and the GOP had going for them. Take that away and they are toast.

Furthermore Trump's handling of the COVID crisis has been a disaster and that will be additional reason for people to not vote for him. Could be a massive landslide for Biden in Nov.

lindysalsagal

(20,557 posts)
20. Shocked, that their little experiment in anarchy went so badly.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:03 PM
Apr 2020

I guess they now feel that things are "skaken up" enough?


YA THINK?????????

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. And this is BEFORE even Democrats face the stunning reality that
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:49 PM
Apr 2020

McConnell and other Republican senators BLOCKED, REFUSED and DELAYED all action Democrats tried to pass to contain the virus at entry points and then to mitigate deaths.

Even pushing the idea that people at high risk (most collecting Social Security and benefits they paid into) have a duty to die to protect the economy from what they unleashed.

BComplex

(8,015 posts)
23. This is all on REPUBLICANS!! NOT on trump. He's THEIR baby. Lock, stock and barrel.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 03:35 PM
Apr 2020

We impeached him; gave the republicans a chance to save their slimy selves. But NOOOO! They were so proud of themselves giving him a pass, so they could get a pat on the ass.

We need to totally get rid of every republican lawmaker, at every level of government for the next 20 years, and try to straighten out the mess they've left us with. The last depression they left Obama with was just a practice run for them. It's friggin' over.

No More Republicans Ever. Just say NO.

nakocal

(544 posts)
26. That has always been the republican model
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:31 PM
Apr 2020

... anger, division and ‘we’re the victim.’ Republicans have NEVER run on their actual policies because their policies are basically, fuck the poor and middle class, shift all wealth to the already wealthy.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
28. Good. I hope it sinks them forever.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:41 PM
Apr 2020

Maybe this will wake people up to just how Republicans don't plan then tell you to pull yourself up by your own bootstraps. That philosophy doesn't work in a pandemic that seems to be leading to apocalyptic proportions. The last thing a truly hungry person needs to hear is some smart ass telling them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps. Some of us see no cannibalism taboo worth following when it comes to using smart-mouthed Republicans. Just make sure it's well done for me. Gotta make use of the heartless, selfish, spoiled, temper tantrum pitching fuckers somehow. They are useless otherwise and I am sick of their Trump worshiping smart-mouthed idiotisms.

MagickMuffin

(15,918 posts)
29. And they always see themselves as the victims
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:51 AM
Apr 2020

Without fail. However, it is their party that is constantly victimizing others.

Blue states go ahead and go bankrupt, etc etc.

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