I got an email from Bernie's PAC

[eilen]

Telling people to vote for him in the remaining primaries.

Seriously?


"The Fight for Our Future Continues!
Bernie has suspended his presidential campaign, but the movement he inspired will keep going. Many of the issues we are fighting for — like Medicare for All and paid sick leave — are now being viewed as essential in the midst of the pandemic and the economic crisis.

That’s why Our Revolution is mobilizing voters in the remaining primary states to ensure Bernie earns enough delegates so we can continue to transform the Democratic party, elect progressive champions, and fight for progressive policies at every level of government.

You can read MORE about the FIGHT AHEAD in this edition of The Revolution Report!"

★ ★ ★
This is the shit that makes me give him the side-eye.

[Pambert]

1. They're not Democrats

They are both-siders who don't care about anyone but themselves.

[SunSeeker]

2. That is fucked up.

Bernie endorsed Biden. His PAC should be telling his supporters to vote for Biden.

[murielm99]

3. Then Bernie has to tell his PAC

to cut the crap. I doubt that he will. He did not ask his supporters to stop harassing people on social media. He had the power to do that, and he kept quiet. Someone needs to tell him to get these people to stop it right now. If he does not, then we know he supports their efforts.

[ehrnst]

13. He is not known for correcting or even addressing errors or rumors that work to his benefit

for a long, long time now.

[ramen]

19. In what way does this benefit him? nt

[ehrnst]

29. Voting for him in the primary when he isn't in the race anymore?

Read the OP.

Also, his endorsement of HRC usually started with a recitation of his delegate count, as if he was keeping his hat in the ring should something happen to the nominee who was selected by the voters.

[betsuni]

4. "transform the Democratic Party" "inspired" blah blah blah progressive "fighting for" "revolution"

[JI7]

5. How did Sanders do on Super Tuesday ?

[BlueMTexpat]

6. Sadly, this does not

surprise me at all!

[padah513]

7. Did they ask for a donation?

[eilen]

39. Yes. It is a very long email

That also ask for support for all these other candidates on state ballots that his PAC supports. If you PM me with your email, I'll forward it to you.

[empedocles]

8. BS, et al, are not about policy. They are about trump-like agitating their base individual

benefit.

[Tom Rinaldo]

9. It's no longer about any fight over who will be the nominee

There can only be one nominee, and Bernie Sanders along with all of the others who ran in the primaries agrees that will be Joe Biden. Pressing different alternative candidates now would be divisive. Pressing for differing priorities for the Democratic Party is not.That is still an open process and electing representatives who support your own views is how democracy functions. If Bernie agrees that his delegates will not work to take the nomination away from Biden but instead just work to make the case for some policy priorities, I am fine with that.

[robbedvoter]

11. He has no delegates. He suspended his campaign.

The primary is over. You can't Schroedinger it.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. I heard, maybe falsely, that there is a rule open to interpretation about retaining delegates

If in fact the applied rules do not allow for Sanders to retain delegates, so be it and this is all moot. My point is I don't find it upsetting that anyone with a significant following inside the Democratic Party would want to have their voice heard during deliberations regarding Democratic Party policy.

[GeorgiaPeanut]

17. He cannot get any more delegates since he is technically not on the ballot

[jaxexpat]

28. Totally agree.

And further I feel it must be said, the only way this separates or otherwise hurts the party is if a minority of Democrats insist on denying the logical and ethical value of progressive policies. Franklin Roosevelt's policies, Eleanor Roosevelt's values. In other words, to wallow in justification while resting smugly on current glimmers of promised victory.
I mean, does anybody here want the interests of private insurance to block the most evident justice for universal healthcare in perpetuity? Or sit idly and allow the USSC to continue it's rampage against hard won/long fought social corrections? Or let the electoral college remain an untouchable and putrid carcass, a dead subject for political discourse, much less action?
That's the same complacent spirit which whispered "it's OK, let's all heal together" into people's ears when Nixon avoided justice. When Reagan cheated, slinking his way onto the stage. When Gingrich soiled the legislature without so much as a whimpering protest from a "liberal media', all the while wheedling the 3 strikes madness and incarceration guidelines which make the USA number 1 in prison population. As Gore threw up his hands (clearing the way for the judicial coupe that gave us 9/11, Iraq war II, Afghanistan forever) even as we, the Majority of voters supported him and sat in helpless shock and sadness and bewilderment. And Kerry's elitist refusal to employ or support liberal talk radio in his campaign effort. And all this madness pitifully countered by the pathetic hope of that same majority that somehow we might squeak out at least a voice in some branch or the other to meet the onslaught from the malevolent force of "conservatism" which never rests.

[DFW]

31. About the only thing the Republicans have left to hope for is an angry, divisive convention

Been there, did that in 2016. I am not fine with that. Too much is at stake this time.

[ucrdem]

33. Exacto.

We are very good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory and even though November looks like a sure thing, it never is.

[Tom Rinaldo]

34. I don't expect an angry divisive convention in 2020 because Sanders has delegates in attendence.

Those view points naturally exist inside the Democratic Party with or without Bernie having run for President. Democrats simply aren't in ideological lockstep, never have been and never will be, but we can still produce a common front when the need for that is embraced by leaders of all of our factions We'll all find out soon enough if we can pull that off this time of course, but a lot of people here were convinced that Sanders would fight against Biden in every state in the union rather than suspend his campaign early and officially (and warmly) endorsing his primary rival. And they turned out to be wrong on that one.

[DFW]

35. The everlasting search for a perfect world

As I see it, one thing the primaries proved beyond any doubt is that Sanders had a tenuous hold at best on his staff, some of whom ranted off with the most hateful (and, at times, preposterous) statements imaginable directed at other Democrats. The only other possibility is that he is more wily than Machiavelli, and oversaw the whole thing while merely pretending not to have them on a tight leash, and I just don't see that as realistic.

Ergo, either the hatemongers will be excluded from being sent as delegates, or they will find a way in to the convention, and do a repeat of 2016--if, indeed, the convention takes place at all in its usual form. I've been to one of those things. Some events and receptions are packed tighter than sardine cans.

If the virus does not subside by then, and the tech people manage to hold it in a virtual venue (nice trick if they can pull it off), then, of course, any such disruption will be cut off at the first raised decibel count.

[Tom Rinaldo]

37. The spirit of unity is very much more pronounced and deeply rooted this time aruond

No it will not permeate it's way into every one of the more extreme Sanders supporters and ex-staffers, but they will nurse their grudges and occasionally act out in an environment much less intrinsically conducive to such viewpoints, and that means that attitude will not resonate at the margins in the same way that it did in 2016. It will not be picked up and amplified by the suggestible in the same way, it will be more often greeted by frowns than cheers. The tone at the convention will predominantly reflect the tone that Biden and Sanders establish together between themselves. And they have done quite well at that so far, and I gladly give Joe Biden a great deal of credit for how he has managed that.

[DFW]

38. "more often greeted by frowns than cheers"--from your lips to God's ears

As the saying goes.

I agree as far as quantity goes. Intensity is another matter, as yet unresolved.

On the other hand, I agree that Biden has been astoundingly accommodating as far as rift-healing goes. Either he, himself, or someone very close to him has been doing a lot of "big picture" contemplation. I don't know him well at all, only a few brief chats at the 2008 Denver convention, but my brief impression was indeed that of the smart, thoughtful, laid-back guy. I guess he has endured enough personal tragedy to put verbal slights in their proper perspective.

[robbedvoter]

10. I believe until June there's time enough for states to remove the names of ex-candidates from ballot

I hope they do.

[ehrnst]

12. I guess it might make for a more compelling book after this is all over.

[samnsara]

14. they all have MAGA caps..they arent Dems nor do they intend to actually vote for bernie...

[ramen]

20. Meaning this is a false flag? That would be more believeable

than Sanders undermining Biden after conceding to him and endorsing him.

[barbtries]

15. are you able to reply all?

they need to be reminded that a vote for bernie is a vote for trump.

[UncleNoel]

18. Sorry, but I don't want to transform the Democratic Party!

I want to make it better, not different. Go find a socialist party. I like a big tent.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Either it is a fight against the Democratic Party or it is a cooperative effort from within. Choose.

[catbyte]

22. They just can't seem to help themselves, can they? Didn't Bernie endorse Biden? WTF?

[zackymilly]

24. If Bernie truly endorses Biden, he needs to come forward and tell them to stop this crap.

I think Bernie is enjoying all the attention he's getting again.

[comradebillyboy]

30. Yes he does love attention...

[marble falls]

23. Very disappointing for sure.

[Sloumeau]

25. This is a bunch of nonsense.

No matter how many votes Biden has won, will win, or would have won, these people will always be spouting the same "The fight must go on!" crap. Sometimes, never admitting defeat keeps people endlessly fighting the same battles.

[uponit7771]

26. THIS ... IS ... SO ... FUCKED ... UP !!!

[Bengus81]

27. Same ole' 2016 Bernie....Deja Vu all over again

Things I'd love to say about him but then my post would disappear like last time he pulled this crap.

[ucrdem]

32. Bernie will claim innocence of course

Can he help it if he's populah?

But he really needs to knock it off. It isn't harmless and there's absolutely zip to be gained from this except a win for Trumpolini.

[democrattotheend]

36. This is something we should welcome

Because it helps increase turnout in the remaining primaries, many of which coincide with other elections like we saw in Wisconsin. It's no accident that Bernie dropped out the day after Wisconsin, before the votes were even counted - one of his aides told the Washington Post that he stayed in through Wisconsin because of the special election for the state supreme court, which was very important for voting rights in Wisconsin.

Some of Bernie's supporters are young and less likely to bother with local elections, so by asking them to come out and vote for him, most of them will also be Democratic votes in other elections. Nobody should be upset about this.