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riversedge

(70,176 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:30 AM Apr 2020

Sen Tom Cotton proposes restricting Chinese students from studying science & tech at US universitie

Cotton always was a racist GOP jerk!



"If Chinese students want to come here and study Shakespeare & the Federalist Papers, that's what they need to learn from America. They don't need to learn quantum computing" -- Sen. Tom Cotton proposes restricting Chinese students from studying science & tech at US universities



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Sen Tom Cotton proposes restricting Chinese students from studying science & tech at US universitie (Original Post) riversedge Apr 2020 OP
Is Arkansas a taker state? roamer65 Apr 2020 #1
A lot of folks out there saying stupid stuff today Under The Radar Apr 2020 #2
Tom Cotton is running for the most rabid racist in Congress. dalton99a Apr 2020 #3
I guess Cotton wants some of the attention tRump gets for being a stupid ass! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2020 #4
Mouth breather Cotton is solidifying his bonafides for a NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #5
repugs are truly stupid irrelevant waste of air and space samsingh Apr 2020 #6
Why the fuck would anyone come to America to "study Shakespeare" Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #7
Exactly what I thought Caliman73 Apr 2020 #17
he obviously knows little about Chinese culture, Shakespeare is huge there nt Celerity Apr 2020 #27
In Arkansas Shakespeare is fishin' tackle Botany Apr 2020 #30
Lmao...so true Docreed2003 Apr 2020 #34
To bait or not to bail? That is cat fishing. Botany Apr 2020 #37
NEXT: Sen. Cotton introduces Chinese Exclusion Act dalton99a Apr 2020 #8
I suppose he thinks US has nothing to learn about infectious diseases from China? Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #9
A racist POS sez what? n/t theaocp Apr 2020 #10
To be fair:(eyeroll) LakeArenal Apr 2020 #11
As I posted in another thread, the world will pass us by due to racist tulipsandroses Apr 2020 #12
Cotton does not even think inside the box. Sneederbunk Apr 2020 #13
This CANNOT Delphinus Apr 2020 #14
And they say it's liberals who don't understand how the world works JHB Apr 2020 #15
+1. There is also an immediate financial cost - Chinese students provide a big chunk of tuition fees dalton99a Apr 2020 #21
If Shakespeare were alive today, the Republicans and the Federalist Society Baitball Blogger Apr 2020 #16
The racist cotton mouth senator gademocrat7 Apr 2020 #18
Arkansas is home to Walmart, the world's biggest importer of Chinese products dalton99a Apr 2020 #41
The incredibly arrogant assumption here genxlib Apr 2020 #19
No surprise. Xenophobia is there main selling point to their base. clutterbox1830 Apr 2020 #20
Reviving The Old Chinese Exclusionary Act.... The Magistrate Apr 2020 #22
Following the passing of the Chinese Exclusion Act, a period known as the "Driving Out" era was born dalton99a Apr 2020 #25
Why hasn't he been tried for treason? Norbert Apr 2020 #23
+1. A servile lapdog eager to do Trump's bidding dalton99a Apr 2020 #29
Cotton apparently realizes what a great contribution Shakespeare made to American literature DFW Apr 2020 #24
or American quantum physics by Erwin Schrodinger and Werner Heisenberg dalton99a Apr 2020 #26
They have German names DFW Apr 2020 #32
Tom Cotton is the ultimate Dumbfuck. Chipper Chat Apr 2020 #28
I wonder how universities feel about losing the talent and tuition. nt crickets Apr 2020 #31
I'll say something that I suspect will be very unpopular here. MelissaB Apr 2020 #33
You are correct, and it should be unpopular killaphill Apr 2020 #36
Nope. It's national security. MelissaB Apr 2020 #39
I look for Tom Cotton to become a top Presidential contender in the future. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #35
Wow Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #38
Of course, his number one priority is still all out war with China. sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #40

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
2. A lot of folks out there saying stupid stuff today
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:34 AM
Apr 2020

...likely trying to turn attention away from Trump’s ignorance once again.

Docreed2003

(16,855 posts)
7. Why the fuck would anyone come to America to "study Shakespeare"
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:39 AM
Apr 2020

No offense to American Shakespearean scholars. Cotton is a freaking bigoted ass.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
17. Exactly what I thought
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
Apr 2020

Does idiot Cotton think that Shakespeare was American?

Rule number 1 when being an arrogant bigot: Don't say something that is fucking stupid, like America is the place to come to study Shakespeare.

Botany

(70,476 posts)
37. To bait or not to bail? That is cat fishing.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:26 PM
Apr 2020

BTW did he really say study quantum computing? I might be wrong but I thought
all analytical computing is quantum based. And BTW China already leads the world
in A.I..

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
8. NEXT: Sen. Cotton introduces Chinese Exclusion Act
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:40 AM
Apr 2020

to require expulsion of Chinese from university programs

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
9. I suppose he thinks US has nothing to learn about infectious diseases from China?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:41 AM
Apr 2020

"Not invented here" can be the death of many companies and some countries.

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
12. As I posted in another thread, the world will pass us by due to racist
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:46 AM
Apr 2020

right wing and religious ideologies.

Just like they have vilified immigrant farmworkers and other food industries, to placate their rabid base, without telling them the truth that immigrants help to hold up our food industry.

You won't hear it from them that immigrants are a big contribution to our science and tech industry.

This rabid racism we have seen over the last several years will push those people to take their talents elsewhere and help those countries succeed. While we cling to guns, the Bible and push stupid conspiracy theories.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
15. And they say it's liberals who don't understand how the world works
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:49 AM
Apr 2020

Tom, they don't have to come here. They have their own universities, you know. They already have quantum computing research going on.

And isn't it better if they come here rather than we end up having to go there?

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
21. +1. There is also an immediate financial cost - Chinese students provide a big chunk of tuition fees
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:01 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/13/amid-coronavirus-cutting-international-students-jeopardizes-colleges.html
Stemming the flow of international students could cost US colleges $41 billion
Published Sun, Mar 15 2020 10:16 AM EDT



Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
16. If Shakespeare were alive today, the Republicans and the Federalist Society
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:49 AM
Apr 2020

would bring the Shakespearean fool characters up to a new level.

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
41. Arkansas is home to Walmart, the world's biggest importer of Chinese products
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

Cotton is the biggest hypocrite in Congress on every subject

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
19. The incredibly arrogant assumption here
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:58 AM
Apr 2020

Is that we will be the ones to develop the vaccine.

It is just as likely that it gets developed elsewhere. Including, potentially in China where they have the scientific capability and a two month head start.

I, for one, would rather not be the selfish asshole on the outside looking in when it gets developed elsewhere.

clutterbox1830

(395 posts)
20. No surprise. Xenophobia is there main selling point to their base.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

We are going to hear non-stop China bashing and xenophobia until election day.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
22. Reviving The Old Chinese Exclusionary Act....
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:01 PM
Apr 2020

If recollection serves, even while we were allied with China in the war against Japan, no Chinese could be naturalized as a citizen of the United States.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
25. Following the passing of the Chinese Exclusion Act, a period known as the "Driving Out" era was born
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:08 PM
Apr 2020
Following the passing of the Chinese Exclusion Act, a period known as the "Driving Out" era was born. In this period, anti-Chinese Americans physically forced Chinese communities to flee to other areas. Large scale violence in Western states included The Rock Springs Chinese Massacre (1885) and the Hells Canyon Massacre of 1887.[32]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

DFW

(54,325 posts)
24. Cotton apparently realizes what a great contribution Shakespeare made to American literature
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:04 PM
Apr 2020

Similar to the contributions made to American medicine by Louis Pasteur.........

DFW

(54,325 posts)
32. They have German names
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:28 PM
Apr 2020

To an old neo-Nazi like Cotton, they are allowed, sort of like Göbbels and Mengele.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
33. I'll say something that I suspect will be very unpopular here.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

Chinese students have been stealing our info (science, technology, etc) and sending it back to China. I dislike Cotton immensely, but we need to address this national security issue.

I have 2 children and a husband in STEM fields. I went through some of my text messages and pulled up a few articles I have sent her over the last few months. Here they are.


Universities are forging ties with the FBI as US cracks down on foreign influence

Public institutes are responding to allegations of interference in research by foreign governments, especially China.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00646-9

Researcher at University Arrested for Wire Fraud and Making False Statements About Affiliation with a Chinese University
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/researcher-university-arrested-wire-fraud-and-making-false-statements-about-affiliation

US says suspect in Apple case had classified Patriot missile file from Raytheon
https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2019/12/08/says-suspect-apple-case-had-classified-patriot-missile-file-from-raytheon/RbRvWMzvo0Vq30nu5a9PfL/story.html

Raytheon engineer arrested for taking US missile defense secrets to China
https://qz.com/1795127/raytheon-engineer-arrested-for-taking-us-missile-defense-secrets-to-china/

"Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged"
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china

"Unbeknownst to Harvard University, beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at
Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China"




Today's announcement by federal law enforcement is the culmination of cases where 1) A Harvard professor received thousands for China 2) A member of the PLA was at BU conducting US Military Research 3) A third arrested at Logan for smuggling vials of medical research.




The arrested Harvard prof is tip of the iceberg. When the Texas A&M system investigated how much Chinese money its faculty was getting, officials were astounded—over 100 were involved in Chinese talent recruitment plans. Only 5 disclosed.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/chinas-funding-of-u-s-researchers-raises-red-flags-11580428915

Judge mulls fate of US researcher who denies spying for China
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/judge-mulls-fate-of-us-researcher-who-denies-spying-for-china

Amid rising spy concerns, 2 more Chinese students held after shooting photos at base

Key West visitors always flock to the town’s favorite tourist spots — Mallory Square, Duval Street, Ernest Hemingway’s home, and the Southernmost Point Buoy — to snap photos and record memories.

But apparently, not students visiting from China. For some reason, they seem to like taking pictures of military facilities in Key West.

The latest — a pair of Chinese nationals attending the University of Michigan — were arrested over the weekend and appeared in federal court in Key West on Monday on a charge of entering a U.S. Naval property for the purpose of photographing defense installations.

Since the fall of 2018, a total of four Chinese nationals have been arrested on charges of shooting pictures of military facilities in Key West, drawing the sharp interest of U.S. counterintelligence investigators who have been probing suspected Beijing-led spying activities in South Florida, including visitors to President Donald Trump’s private club, Mar-a-Lago, in Palm Beach.

... snip

In a similar case, another Chinese student, Lyuyou Liao, was arrested the day after Christmas on a charge of entering the Truman Annex at the Naval Air Station for the purpose of photographing defense installations. In Liao’s case, several witnesses told police they watched Liao trespass onto the military property and warned him not to go there, according to another criminal affidavit. He was later stopped by federal agents who found photos on his cellphone of military facilities.

Read more here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article239010873.html#storylink=cpy






MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
39. Nope. It's national security.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:46 PM
Apr 2020

Tom Cotton may be a racist asshole, but broken clock and all.

Edited to say: Cherry picked stories? Come on!

Midnight Writer

(21,733 posts)
35. I look for Tom Cotton to become a top Presidential contender in the future.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:20 PM
Apr 2020

Kind of like Paul Ryan, he has inexplicably gained a reputation for being a smart policy wonk in the GOP.

In the land of the blind...

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,399 posts)
38. Wow
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 01:28 PM
Apr 2020

He's not saying a lot about the US if the only reason(s) to come here is study Shakespeare (which isn't even American literature) or history of the American government that not even he nor Trump has a grasp on.

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