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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:30 PM Apr 2020

Rick Scott says Americans would rather collect unemployment than go to work

Sen. Rick Scott wrote in a campaign fundraising email sent Thursday night that Americans thrown out of work because of the coronavirus pandemic would rather collect unemployment than go back to work.

“Businesses looking to reopen are telling us their employees don’t want to come back to work because they collect more on unemployment,” Scott‘s email said. “And who can blame them?”

In the email, Scott railed against the $600-per-week unemployment benefits Congress allotted to out-of-work Americans, and he blamed Democrats for allowing it to go through. The benefits made up a part of a $2 trillion package called the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act. It passed the U.S. Senate by a vote of 96-0 in late March.

One of those votes belonged to Scott, although at the time he had strong objections, including that some workers would receive benefits exceeding their former salaries.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/04/24/rick-scott-says-americans-would-rather-collect-unemployment-than-go-to-work/

They're all vile assholes, but Rick Scott is an especially vile asshole.

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Rick Scott says Americans would rather collect unemployment than go to work (Original Post) Zorro Apr 2020 OP
Isn't he the Florida physician who, with his wife, made a lot of money off Medicare? Frustratedlady Apr 2020 #1
Not just Medicare leftieNanner Apr 2020 #3
He rigged the Florida unemployment application software to frustrate applicants NCjack Apr 2020 #6
Yes, I should have added fraud. I thought it was him. Frustratedlady Apr 2020 #10
"Fraud" is such a harsh word to use, isn't it? Victor_c3 Apr 2020 #17
Largest Medicaid fraud in history. He pled the Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #18
He is not a physician. Caliman73 Apr 2020 #52
I guess that businesses will have to start valuing iemitsu Apr 2020 #2
many business can't afford it, UBI is the real answer Amishman Apr 2020 #57
I would rather not die than go to work Politicub Apr 2020 #4
???? What can be said about this? This equals Trump's stupidity..Thank You for posting. Stuart G Apr 2020 #5
Judging others by his own mirror image. lpbk2713 Apr 2020 #7
What a vile evil man Tom Kitten Apr 2020 #8
He may be a vile asshole... atreides1 Apr 2020 #9
Or it could be the ineffective Florida Democratic Party csziggy Apr 2020 #40
Me too... bluecollar2 Apr 2020 #59
I think that Scott is an asshole but Doreen Apr 2020 #11
I'm making more on unemployment right now Polybius Apr 2020 #43
I am also making just as much forthemiddle Apr 2020 #54
No Rick, you have us confused w politicans randr Apr 2020 #12
The Florida GOP can go fuck itself Dirty Socialist Apr 2020 #13
No, ASSHOLE-Scott.. Americans Would Rather ASSFACE WOULD Cha Apr 2020 #14
Scott made his money the old fashion way... he stole it... mitch96 Apr 2020 #15
Hey Rick Scott Hobo Apr 2020 #16
Sure thing pRick ornotna Apr 2020 #19
Why do Republicans have such a low opinion of Americans? Beartracks Apr 2020 #20
Projection of what they would do nt csziggy Apr 2020 #41
With the $600 federal kicker most on UC are making at least $1000 a week. former9thward Apr 2020 #21
Not in Florida ornotna Apr 2020 #25
$275 plus $600 is $875 a week. former9thward Apr 2020 #29
Looks good on paper ornotna Apr 2020 #33
Bullshit! MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #26
I used a 50 state average. former9thward Apr 2020 #31
You are making the assumption that all unemployed MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #42
Amazon is hiring Polybius Apr 2020 #45
Let us know when you start working there... MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #49
not in FL quaker bill Apr 2020 #38
bastard bdamomma Apr 2020 #22
My wife's job was permanently lost...go back to work where? EarthFirst Apr 2020 #23
You lost her retirement benefits? How did that happen? Company go bankrupt? GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #46
You don't suppose Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #24
This Rick Scott? Be still my laughing heart malaise Apr 2020 #27
thank you Malaise onethatcares Apr 2020 #53
Please do malaise Apr 2020 #56
"I think a zombie workforce would help the economy, because you don't have to pay the dead!" struggle4progress Apr 2020 #28
if you give someone two slices of bread a day to live off of.... Takket Apr 2020 #30
making money for doing nothing is only for rich assholes Skittles Apr 2020 #32
Well, yeah, like right now...yes. It beats dying from COVID Drahthaardogs Apr 2020 #34
I would rather collect unemployment if going back to work means that I might be exposed to a totodeinhere Apr 2020 #35
It obviously went through, so treestar Apr 2020 #36
Hey Scott Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #37
There is a simple answer quaker bill Apr 2020 #39
This jerk Matthew28 Apr 2020 #44
This is the GOPs biggest fear. $600 a week is $15 an hour. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #47
Bullshit. Americans are some of the hardest working people on earth McCamy Taylor Apr 2020 #48
Seems to me if your company reopens and you dont go back bedazzled Apr 2020 #50
You notice that only rich people ever say stuff like that? In It to Win It Apr 2020 #51
"rather collect unemployment than go back to work" Maxheader Apr 2020 #55
Scott checks all the boxes for fascistic thinking. Hortensis Apr 2020 #58
He's probably not wrong democrattotheend Apr 2020 #60

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
1. Isn't he the Florida physician who, with his wife, made a lot of money off Medicare?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:36 PM
Apr 2020

Or, was it another Florida physician? So many crooks down there, I get them mixed up.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. He rigged the Florida unemployment application software to frustrate applicants
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:48 PM
Apr 2020

to the point that they would give up trying to complete the process.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
10. Yes, I should have added fraud. I thought it was him.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:54 PM
Apr 2020

He isn't a physician? I gave him more credit than I meant to.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
17. "Fraud" is such a harsh word to use, isn't it?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:47 PM
Apr 2020

Same thing with the word “felony”

I think we should use the term “misunderstanding” instead

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
18. Largest Medicaid fraud in history. He pled the
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:50 PM
Apr 2020

77 times. He designed Florida’s unemployment system to fail and it has spectacularly.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
52. He is not a physician.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 02:01 AM
Apr 2020

He has a law degree and he is the Florida politician who engaged in an almost 2 billion dollar fraud against Medicare, the largest ever Medicare fraud in the nation's history.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
2. I guess that businesses will have to start valuing
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:40 PM
Apr 2020

Their employees more and actually pay them living wages.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
57. many business can't afford it, UBI is the real answer
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:18 PM
Apr 2020

small businesses, particularly in high labor industries, can't afford to pay a lot more than they do now.

The money needs to come from the government, and needs to be drawn from the pockets of those who have excess (the rich and big businesses)

UBI is the real answer.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
4. I would rather not die than go to work
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:47 PM
Apr 2020

It drives the GOP bananas when a working-class person isn’t suffering.

Tom Kitten

(7,347 posts)
8. What a vile evil man
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:49 PM
Apr 2020

Surely I don't have to post how this makes no sense, is just a pack of lies

“Businesses looking to reopen are telling us their employees don’t want to come back to work because they collect more on unemployment" Really. So what does he have to back such allegations. Anything?

atreides1

(16,077 posts)
9. He may be a vile asshole...
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:52 PM
Apr 2020

...but not vile enough to stop Floridians from electing him as their governor, twice...and then electing him to the US Senate!

It isn't just about Scott being a vile asshole, it's more about the vile asshole Floridians who keep voting for him...

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
40. Or it could be the ineffective Florida Democratic Party
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:36 PM
Apr 2020

That never once in any of their campaigns against Rick Scott brought up his history of Medicare fraud. It would have been the perfect issue to nail him on, but they ignored it, not once, not twice but THREE fucking times.

In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the United States government $631 million, plus interest, and pay $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[42] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle; at the time, this was the largest fraud settlement in American history.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Scott#Columbia/HCA


This was a significant part of Scott's resume but was not important enough to educate the people of Florida about during our elections. FDP failed our state. This is why I will not work with them directly.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
11. I think that Scott is an asshole but
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 04:57 PM
Apr 2020

there are some people who actually believe that way. My friends niece tried to get him to quit his job the other day because he would make more on unemployment.

His niece is not a good person so her saying that does not surprise me at all.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
43. I'm making more on unemployment right now
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

If the choice was go back to work or stay on unemployment, I'm sorry but I must say the truth: stay on unemployment.

forthemiddle

(1,379 posts)
54. I am also making just as much
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:07 AM
Apr 2020

But I can’t wait to go back, I’m so bored!

My caveat though, I work from home all of the time, I am just a “victim” to the hospitals furloughing staff because they had to cancel elective and routine care.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
13. The Florida GOP can go fuck itself
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:02 PM
Apr 2020

They stole the 2000 election for Dubya, and it’s been downhill since then.

Cha

(297,196 posts)
14. No, ASSHOLE-Scott.. Americans Would Rather ASSFACE WOULD
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:06 PM
Apr 2020

HAVE TOLD THEM About the CV in January Instead of Wasting 70 Precious Days!

mitch96

(13,895 posts)
15. Scott made his money the old fashion way... he stole it...
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:07 PM
Apr 2020

His company paid MILLIONS in fines that made him MILLIONS. He bought the gov'nr ship in GOP Florida and he did the same, buying his senate seat.
Next up?? He will try to buy the presidency... uffda
m

Hobo

(757 posts)
16. Hey Rick Scott
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 05:30 PM
Apr 2020

Just shut the fuck up you sniveling douche bag, no one want to hear from you go the fuck away and be quiet.

Hobo

former9thward

(32,001 posts)
21. With the $600 federal kicker most on UC are making at least $1000 a week.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:50 PM
Apr 2020

No one is going back to work making that type money to a job that pays $15 to $20 a hour. They would be losing money. People are not stupid or insane. They will not go back to work until after the federal program ends July 31st. Anyone who believes differently is living in an alternate universe.

ornotna

(10,800 posts)
25. Not in Florida
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:12 PM
Apr 2020

The max state benefit is $275. And Florida is hardly keeping up with the people needing it. See post above.

ornotna

(10,800 posts)
33. Looks good on paper
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:05 PM
Apr 2020

So you didn't read the part where most Floridians aren't actually getting anything right now. To misquote Billy Preston - Nuthin' plus nuthin' leaves nuthin'

That's about nuthin' per hour. In Florida.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
26. Bullshit!
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:14 PM
Apr 2020

Max in Florida is $275 a week and people aren’t getting it because pRick Scott designed the system to fail. So max would be $875 a week. Even if someone got a grand a week they are now without insurance.

former9thward

(32,001 posts)
31. I used a 50 state average.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:27 PM
Apr 2020

In NY it is far higher. At $875, in Florida, a week, insurance can easily be Cobred. BS back at you. And many low wage service jobs have no insurance anyway, so nothing changes there.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
42. You are making the assumption that all unemployed
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:44 PM
Apr 2020

Are low wage service workers with no benefits. Your logic is seriously flawed.

Name a business that is hiring but is not getting applications. Better yet, name a job that is open that you would be willing to take right now.

Polybius

(15,398 posts)
45. Amazon is hiring
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:56 PM
Apr 2020

But I'll wait, because I'm not gonna get the $800+ a week there that I'm getting now on unemployment.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
38. not in FL
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:20 PM
Apr 2020

The max is $275 a week, which less than minimum wage and you had to be making many times that much to qualify, if you can, for the maximum benefit.

There is a real easy answer, pay the people you really want to hire more money. Alternately, since about 85% have not qualified at all, just hire one of them.

EarthFirst

(2,900 posts)
23. My wife's job was permanently lost...go back to work where?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 06:54 PM
Apr 2020

26-30 million are out of work.

I can assure you that we are not setting the world on fire with her UI benefits after losing her job of twenty years.

We lost 60% of our income; our healthcare and retirement benefits.

Right. We absolutely love our new reality.

Prick.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
46. You lost her retirement benefits? How did that happen? Company go bankrupt?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:09 PM
Apr 2020

I’ve spent 33 years with my company. Even if permanently laid off my retirement will be there for me as I’ve been vested for 23 years.

Sorry about your situation.

malaise

(268,980 posts)
27. This Rick Scott? Be still my laughing heart
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/03/florida-democratic-party/rick-scott-rick-scott-oversaw-largest-medicare-fra/
<snip>
Here, we’ll fact-check the Democratic counter-attack that Scott "oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in the nation’s history."

Scott’s tenure at Columbia/HCA

During Scott’s 2010 race for governor, PolitiFact fact-checked multiple claims related to his tenure at Columbia/HCA. Now, we’ll recap some of our earlier discussion of the investigation and fine.

Scott started what was first Columbia in 1987, purchasing two El Paso, Texas, hospitals. Over the next decade he would add hundreds of hospitals, surgery centers and home health locations. In 1994, Scott’s Columbia purchased Tennessee-headquartered HCA and its 100 hospitals, and merged the companies.

In 1997, federal agents went public with an investigation into the company, first seizing records from four El Paso-area hospitals and then expanding across the country. The investigation focused on whether Columbia/HCA had committed Medicare and Medicaid fraud.

Scott resigned as CEO in July 1997, less than four months after the inquiry became public. Company executives said had Scott remained CEO, the entire chain could have been in jeopardy.

During his 2010 race, the Miami Herald reported that Scott had said he would have immediately stopped his company from committing fraud -- if only "somebody told me something was wrong." But there were such warnings in the company’s annual public reports to stockholders -- which Scott had to sign as president and CEO.

Scott wanted to fight the accusations, but the corporate board of the publicly traded company wanted to settle.

In December 2000, the U.S. Justice Department announced that Columbia/HCA agreed to pay $840 million in criminal fines, civil damages and penalties.

Among the revelations from the 2000 settlement:

• Columbia billed Medicare, Medicaid, and other federal programs for tests that were not necessary or had not been ordered by physicians;

FEATURED FACT-CHECK


• The company attached false diagnosis codes to patient records to increase reimbursement to the hospitals;

• The company illegally claimed non-reimbursable marketing and advertising costs as community education;

• Columbia billed the government for home health care visits for patients who did not qualify to receive them.

The government settled a second series of similar claims with Columbia/HCA in 2002 for an additional $881 million. The total for the two fines was $1.7 billion.

On Scott’s 2010 campaign website, he admitted to the $1.7 billion fine, though the link is no longer on the site.


What type of record was that fine?

The fine clearly set a record, though the Justice Department (and media reports at the time) were not always consistent in their terminology, sometimes describing it as the "largest government fraud settlement in U.S. History" and other times more specifically as the "largest health care fraud case in U.S. History."

A Justice Department spokeswoman said that officials refer to Columbia/HCA as "largest health care fraud" rather than the more narrow term "Medicare fraud" because it involved defrauding other government programs such as Medicaid rather than Medicare exclusively. The Justice Department described in detail the various ways the company defrauded Medicare and other government health programs here.

The Columbia/HCA case "still is the largest fraud settlement for a hospital corporation in U.S. history," since all the others involved pharmaceutical firms, added Zack Buck, a health care law professor at Mercer. "So I guess, the quote (by the Florida Democratic Party) is a little loose."

The Scott campaign did not respond to an inquiry for this fact-check. However in 2010, Scott told the Tampa Bay Times, "There's no question that mistakes were made and as CEO, I have to accept responsibility for those mistakes. I was focused on lowering costs and making the hospitals more efficient. I could have had more internal and external controls. I learned hard lessons, and I've taken that lesson and it's helped me become a better business person and a better leader."

Our ruling

The Florida Democratic Party said Scott "oversaw the largest Medicare fraud in the nation’s history."

The Columbia/HCA settlement has since been surpassed in dollar value, though the bigger cases involved Medicare somewhat less directly. Because the Democratic Party could have been a bit more specific in its wording -- by saying that Scott oversaw the largest Medicare fraud at the time -- we rate the claim Mostly True.
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OK then

onethatcares

(16,168 posts)
53. thank you Malaise
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:43 AM
Apr 2020

I'm going to c & p that in my next email to him. rubio and him are my senators and I get spam from them all the time.

Takket

(21,564 posts)
30. if you give someone two slices of bread a day to live off of....
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 07:27 PM
Apr 2020

and then one day a crisis hits and the person ends up with 3 slices of bread, and wants to keep getting 3 slices of bread......... the problem isn't the 3 slices of bread. its the two slices.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
35. I would rather collect unemployment if going back to work means that I might be exposed to a
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:10 PM
Apr 2020

virus that might kill me. I have some underlying conditions.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
36. It obviously went through, so
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:13 PM
Apr 2020

some of them voted for it and Dotard signed it! Stupid.

And they know unemployment is not going to last forever. So his claim is probably suspect.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
39. There is a simple answer
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:29 PM
Apr 2020

offer more money.

Of course the maximum absurdity of the Scott comments lie in the fact that no non-essential business is even allowed to open in FL. Essential businesses never closed or laid anyone off. There is no issue at present, except for the fact that the Scott designed UI system is denying earned benefits from about a million people and all the food banks are over run with people who had jobs and the money to purchase food 6 weeks ago.

Matthew28

(1,798 posts)
44. This jerk
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:54 PM
Apr 2020

thinks anyone that isn't rich is property of the rich and believes that we should all slave for them.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
47. This is the GOPs biggest fear. $600 a week is $15 an hour.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:12 PM
Apr 2020

People are going to raise hell at going back to work at half that amount. Whoever got that amount in the bill was brilliantly devious. Nancy perhaps?!?

It will change the playing field when this is over.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
48. Bullshit. Americans are some of the hardest working people on earth
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

Except for MAGATs. Their idea of a quality life is to "supervise" people of color working.

bedazzled

(1,761 posts)
50. Seems to me if your company reopens and you dont go back
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:54 AM
Apr 2020

You are off unemployment. No? Filed in.FL.on 3/25 and not a word

In It to Win It

(8,248 posts)
51. You notice that only rich people ever say stuff like that?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 01:52 AM
Apr 2020

So that working class people feel “incentivized” to go work for shit wages to build wealth for some wealthy person that also feels working class people should be grateful to the wealthy for giving them a job.

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
55. "rather collect unemployment than go back to work"
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:16 AM
Apr 2020

Absolutely dick, I mean rick...

when the alternative might be getting heavily sedated, having a tube stuck down my throat and still...

maybe dying...dick head, I mean rick...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
58. Scott checks all the boxes for fascistic thinking.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 12:20 PM
Apr 2020

He can't help being despicably unable to value individuals who aren't powerful. This is just him being him.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
60. He's probably not wrong
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

For many low wage workers, unemployment with the $600 enhancements pays more than their regular hourly wage or salary. Plus, they get to stay home and don't have to put themselves at risk of getting the coronavirus. Who wouldn't want to stay safe at home for more money than they make on the job?

I feel for some small businesses put in a bad position by this, given that the PPP loan requires them to spend 75% on payroll to get forgiveness, but I also think workers whose employers have been good to them, especially union workers with health benefits, won't want to give up their jobs for a short term windfall. But if all a company is paying is minimum wage with no benefits and no union, I can't really blame its workers for preferring to make more money not working. The job has to be good enough to compete with unemployment. I recognize that some legit small businesses can't afford to do that and I feel for them, but for large companies I have no sympathy whatsoever. If they gave their workers jobs that were good enough that were worth making less temporarily to hold onto, they wouldn't have this problem.

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