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Pass.It.On. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 OP
Remember, Billy......... MyOwnPeace Apr 2020 #1
Wrong. Kristol has always been a Never-Trumper. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #4
He was for Jeb. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 #6
Jeb was not, is not, and never will be tRump. No confusion. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #7
Jeb was normal. DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 #14
Kristol is the one Scarsdale Apr 2020 #21
Converts are welcome DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 #22
Kristol was "Dan Quayle's brain" and the guy who thought Sara Palin... JHB Apr 2020 #15
Yes, Trump finally showed him he'd gone too far localroger Apr 2020 #18
Joseph Stalin was a despot and mass murderer Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #20
Google General James Longstreet DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2020 #23
Kristol also worked on DAniel Patrick Moynihan's campaign so he has a history JI7 Apr 2020 #26
That will all depend on how he acts afterward, doesn't it? JHB Apr 2020 #29
Bear in mind also there will be Republicans who claim to be Dems now dixiegrrrrl Apr 2020 #32
Yes. So you agree with me? JHB Apr 2020 #27
Yes Dem4Life1102 Apr 2020 #31
Great ad Gothmog Apr 2020 #2
They showed Dr. Brix with the perfect amount of time and the perfect reaction. Patterson Apr 2020 #3
Can you just imagine what was going through her mind at the time ? Haggis for Breakfast Apr 2020 #5
Probably a fervent prayer hoping Trump wasn't going to expect a response lunatica Apr 2020 #28
That's all well and good but Kristol is still an asshole. n/t totodeinhere Apr 2020 #8
So does anyone realize that tRump is talking about a cure from Star Trek the orginal series? infullview Apr 2020 #9
Is that the one where Spock went blind? tclambert Apr 2020 #10
Yup! infullview Apr 2020 #11
From pon farr self abuse. nt R. P. McMurphy Apr 2020 #13
My question Susan Calvin Apr 2020 #12
It makes me sick to think that Trump could still win a second term LiberalLovinLug Apr 2020 #16
Straight from Machiavelli: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." brush Apr 2020 #17
Exactly, there are more than two sides. localroger Apr 2020 #19
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Apr 2020 #24
Perhaps ReformedGOPer Apr 2020 #25
Kristol's still a Republican and all that being one stands for. live love laugh Apr 2020 #30

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
1. Remember, Billy.........
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 08:15 PM
Apr 2020

YOU are the ones that brought this guy to us....................

YOU OWN HIM!!!!!!!!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
22. Converts are welcome
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:20 PM
Apr 2020
I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.


Kristol also changed parties.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
15. Kristol was "Dan Quayle's brain" and the guy who thought Sara Palin...
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:32 PM
Apr 2020

...was just the right person to bring in votes for John McCain.

Yeah, fine, he was against Trump. Yipee. If his group makes anti-Trump ads, great. But don't say "Wrong" when someone brings up that he helped turn the Republican party into the Trump-cult mess that it is today.

All of the NeverTrumpers who were part of Republican messaging and conservative media were part of the road crew that paved the way for Trump. Kristol, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, Charlie Sykes, all the ones who get much too much media time trying to tell Democrats how to run our party.

They stoked division, they leaned on hot buttons, they lied their asses off, they fostered a Republican base that would argle-bargle on command and foam over every horseshit claim about Democratic pols to give them the electoral numbers to pass their tax cuts and stuff the federal courts with ideological conservative operatives. It was just "playing hardball", no matter what kind of hellbeast they were creating. After all, they were in charge of it... until they weren't.

I'm fine with making smileyfaces at them until November 4, but never, ever forget what they really are. If you do, you'll find you've been stabbed in the kidneys by a blade with their fingerprints all over it.

localroger

(3,622 posts)
18. Yes, Trump finally showed him he'd gone too far
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:57 PM
Apr 2020

Not that he's really learned from it, but the enemy of our enemy is our friend for the moment, and so let's wave nicely at the never trumpers and not get in their way until it's just us versus them and like in the aftermath of WWII, the US and Russia suddenly weren't friends any more to the surprise of only a few people.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
20. Joseph Stalin was a despot and mass murderer
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:03 PM
Apr 2020

Yet Churchill and FDR embraced him because they had a common enemy.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
23. Google General James Longstreet
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

If a former Confederate general could champion the cause of the freedman Bill Kristol can become a Democrat.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
29. That will all depend on how he acts afterward, doesn't it?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:16 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Just about everything the NeverTrupers have written or said points to their wanting to restore the staus quo ante Trumpum, ideally the pre-Katrina (and pre-Great Recession, pre-ISIS Iraq) Bush years.

There are very, very few of them who've looked back and said "My God, I thought the foaming bigoted loons were just a fringe. It turns out I was the fringe and they're the heart of the Republican Party" and recoil from that.

Most of the rest are still doing what they did in 2016: Positioning themselves to be Republican kingmakers after Trump flames out. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't think I am.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
32. Bear in mind also there will be Republicans who claim to be Dems now
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:06 PM
Apr 2020

so they can get elected.
Just as Collins has called herself that, and openly sides with Republicans...she who also said she would only run for 2 terms,,,decades ago.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
27. Yes. So you agree with me?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:04 PM
Apr 2020

Smileyfaces until the current enemy is defeated, but don't pretend your temporary ally is anything other than that.

infullview

(978 posts)
9. So does anyone realize that tRump is talking about a cure from Star Trek the orginal series?
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:13 PM
Apr 2020

Check out Season one, episode 29 "Operation -- Annihilate"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
16. It makes me sick to think that Trump could still win a second term
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:35 PM
Apr 2020

Its that close. Considering the cheating that is coming.

When Republicans themselves are making ads against him. Has that ever happened to a sitting President by its own moderate base?
When he was impeached for clearly removable offences.
Someone who has provably lied over 10,000 times.
Someone so ignorant and susceptible to whacky conspiracy theories and magic cures.

Seriously, the guy should be at 10% or less by now.

brush

(53,758 posts)
17. Straight from Machiavelli: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 09:47 PM
Apr 2020

Common cause until trump is out then all bets are off. We know who they were before trump and will know who they are after trump. Their values are not our values.

live love laugh

(13,091 posts)
30. Kristol's still a Republican and all that being one stands for.
Sun Apr 26, 2020, 11:51 PM
Apr 2020

He supported Gingrich and Ken Starr and the incessant witch hunt of the Clinton presidency that led to Trump today.

His anti-Trump campaign is bull. Republicans know and knew Trump was a loose cannon. He’s basically ruined the country while enriching himself and his inner circle. He’s stacked the courts and he’s now a liability to the party. They want to boot Trump and act as if they’ve been appalled by him when all they have been is silent until now at election time.

Fuck Kristol.

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