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(16,923 posts)YOU are the ones that brought this guy to us....................
YOU OWN HIM!!!!!!!!
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,984 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,984 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)who brought Sarah Palin onto the national stage!! Nothing to brag about there.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Kristol also changed parties.
JHB
(37,157 posts)...was just the right person to bring in votes for John McCain.
Yeah, fine, he was against Trump. Yipee. If his group makes anti-Trump ads, great. But don't say "Wrong" when someone brings up that he helped turn the Republican party into the Trump-cult mess that it is today.
All of the NeverTrumpers who were part of Republican messaging and conservative media were part of the road crew that paved the way for Trump. Kristol, Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, Charlie Sykes, all the ones who get much too much media time trying to tell Democrats how to run our party.
They stoked division, they leaned on hot buttons, they lied their asses off, they fostered a Republican base that would argle-bargle on command and foam over every horseshit claim about Democratic pols to give them the electoral numbers to pass their tax cuts and stuff the federal courts with ideological conservative operatives. It was just "playing hardball", no matter what kind of hellbeast they were creating. After all, they were in charge of it... until they weren't.
I'm fine with making smileyfaces at them until November 4, but never, ever forget what they really are. If you do, you'll find you've been stabbed in the kidneys by a blade with their fingerprints all over it.
localroger
(3,622 posts)Not that he's really learned from it, but the enemy of our enemy is our friend for the moment, and so let's wave nicely at the never trumpers and not get in their way until it's just us versus them and like in the aftermath of WWII, the US and Russia suddenly weren't friends any more to the surprise of only a few people.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Yet Churchill and FDR embraced him because they had a common enemy.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)If a former Confederate general could champion the cause of the freedman Bill Kristol can become a Democrat.
JI7
(89,244 posts)with democrats.
JHB
(37,157 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)
Just about everything the NeverTrupers have written or said points to their wanting to restore the staus quo ante Trumpum, ideally the pre-Katrina (and pre-Great Recession, pre-ISIS Iraq) Bush years.
There are very, very few of them who've looked back and said "My God, I thought the foaming bigoted loons were just a fringe. It turns out I was the fringe and they're the heart of the Republican Party" and recoil from that.
Most of the rest are still doing what they did in 2016: Positioning themselves to be Republican kingmakers after Trump flames out. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I don't think I am.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)so they can get elected.
Just as Collins has called herself that, and openly sides with Republicans...she who also said she would only run for 2 terms,,,decades ago.
JHB
(37,157 posts)Smileyfaces until the current enemy is defeated, but don't pretend your temporary ally is anything other than that.
Temporary until November. Then we can go back to hating Him again. Lol
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)Patterson
(1,529 posts)Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)to his insane question.
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)infullview
(978 posts)Check out Season one, episode 29 "Operation -- Annihilate"
tclambert
(11,085 posts)R. P. McMurphy
(833 posts)Susan Calvin
(1,646 posts)What the fuck took them so long. Did they have to have their noses rubbed in it? Apparently.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,168 posts)Its that close. Considering the cheating that is coming.
When Republicans themselves are making ads against him. Has that ever happened to a sitting President by its own moderate base?
When he was impeached for clearly removable offences.
Someone who has provably lied over 10,000 times.
Someone so ignorant and susceptible to whacky conspiracy theories and magic cures.
Seriously, the guy should be at 10% or less by now.
brush
(53,758 posts)Common cause until trump is out then all bets are off. We know who they were before trump and will know who they are after trump. Their values are not our values.
localroger
(3,622 posts)Alliances are important. And they shift as necessary.
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)ReformedGOPer
(478 posts)the Magas will be horrified to see this...
live love laugh
(13,091 posts)He supported Gingrich and Ken Starr and the incessant witch hunt of the Clinton presidency that led to Trump today.
His anti-Trump campaign is bull. Republicans know and knew Trump was a loose cannon. Hes basically ruined the country while enriching himself and his inner circle. Hes stacked the courts and hes now a liability to the party. They want to boot Trump and act as if theyve been appalled by him when all they have been is silent until now at election time.
Fuck Kristol.