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Three weeks ago, we reported on the many contradictions in Reades account, as well as the extreme changes in her attitude toward the former vice president. She has evolved from a woman who repeatedly praised Joe Biden for work hes done to help end sexual assault in America, in 2017, to someone who now says Biden sexually assaulted her in 1993.
Now weve obtained new information concerning Tara Reades character, from a non-profit organization based in Watsonville, California, called Pregnant Mare Rescue (PMR). Lynn Hummer, Founder/President of the highly-rated horse sanctuary thats committed to rescuing pregnant mares and orphan foals from abuse, tells us that Tara Reade (McCabe) volunteered at her rescue for a couple of years (from 20142016). During this time, Hummer alleges that Reade stole from her nonprofit, lied, and created stories to obtain sympathy and money.
Weve also obtained receipts and emails that back up many of Hummers claims.
A very interesting read. More at: THE MEDIUM
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)Perhaps she's bilking Putin for $ as well?
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)When confronted, she said, "I stole for my two loves, Bernie Sanders and Vladimir Putin!".
Gothmog
(155,010 posts)brush
(57,820 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,376 posts)DURHAM D
(32,846 posts)Reade had nothing but good things to say about Biden and it appears that she only talked about working on Biden's campaign, not his senate staff.
She currently has a GoFundMe under a bogus name.
Hey Tara...your shit is blowing up.
Cha
(305,646 posts)So she needs $$$$.. why isn't brie brie & Sirota holding a fundraiser for her Lies, I wonder?
I just a saw a tweet by Ed Rollins humping this story under a trump tweet that retweeted himself.
It had all the TR Talking points that have been blown apart.
Skittles
(159,813 posts)Ms. Reade comes across as a very troubled woman
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)and may need money?
KWR65
(1,098 posts)Skittles
(159,813 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,545 posts)Her story was discredited by the NYT
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)Cha
(305,646 posts)our Democratic nominee, Joe Biden, with this false attack.
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The Rwing Liars are all over this shite from Reade.
Tara Reade's public incident report does not mention Joe Biden by name.
On Thursday, Ms. Reade filed a report with the Washington, D.C., police, saying she was the victim of a sexual assault in 1993; the public incident report, provided to The Times by Ms. Reade and the police, does not mention Mr. Biden by name, but she said the complaint was about him. Ms. Reade said she filed the report to give herself an additional degree of safety from potential threats.
Filing a false police report may be punishable by a fine and imprisonment.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=13272381
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)cause women like me not to be believed. Women can and do lie and to deny this is ridiculous.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Not a credible witness.
SunSeeker
(53,900 posts)luvtheGWN
(1,343 posts)the organization didn't report the alleged theft, it's because the last thing a non-profit needs is bad publicity. If donors feel their donations aren't secure, then they will likely stop giving.
This woman is obviously being paid off by -- probably -- the GOP, or by a Trump-supporting superpac. She's obviously in need of $$$.
points!
TomCADem
(17,772 posts)Tara Reade is this year's Larry Sinclair.
https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/11/gay-guy-claimed-sex-obama-running-mayor-florida-town/
Sinclair is running against two Democrats in the nonpartisan race and neither of his opponents have purposefully ignored Sinclairs criminal past or fantastical claim of outing the former president.
I do believe that the voters are smarter than the candidates give them credit for, one of the opposing candidates, Cocoa City Council member Clarence Whipple Jr., told Florida Today. But Im not going to send stuff out on it. Im not questioning his rehabilitation.
* * *
Sinclair became infamous after he held a press conference at the National Press Club to claim he had smoked crack with Obama and had sex with him twice in 1999. Sinclairs outrageous claims without any proof made him a national laughing stock, but spurred even more far right conspiracy theories after being picked up by outlets like Alex Jones InfoWars.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)The similarities struck me as well.
I remember when Sinclair said he had a terminal brain tumor and collected $ from the gullible. ... Those were the days. 🤡
alp227
(32,471 posts)Sinclair was peddling his fake story to exploit homophobia among Republicans.
TomCADem
(17,772 posts)The issue was how Larry Sinclair has made a living selling made up stories that people want to believe for political ends.
JI7
(90,716 posts)Fawning over Putin is another curious element to the story.
kairos12
(13,267 posts)Joinfortmill
(16,545 posts)And the story itself was ludicrous. NYT found no veracity to her allegations.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(12,668 posts)Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)This is unrelated to her claims; it's possible she is a scoundrel and telling the truth. I don't think she is telling the truth, but this isn't evidence.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)integrity and her claims.
I suspect her Biden claims can be kaboshed on their own merit, however.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)I just prefer a direct debunking. Her character certainly comes into play, but I hate that her character is a primary target, if that makes sense.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)issues, so studying their past issues better informs how to deal with their current claims.
Personally, I would prefer to attack her claims than her character.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)which have been addressed in several stories by the NYT, The Nation, The Medium and others.
The writers who reported on the story above, were approached by one of her victims.
DURHAM D
(32,846 posts)She is just a grifter and obviously not a skilled one. Well, maybe her fake GoFundMe account is bringing some success but probably not for much longer. I have been trying to recall how grifters used to grift before social media. I guess they just hung out in bars.
Oh, I just remembered something. My mother worked in a church office in the 60s and 70s that was open regular office hours five days a week. They had a lot of grifters stop by, particularly on Mondays because they knew the Sunday offering was being counted. It was a large church and several of the members were police and sheriff department employees. Those uniformed officers spent a lot of time just hanging out around the church and not because they needed to pray or practice the organ. Boy did they have a lot of stories abut the "stories" they heard.
jftr - If anyone had legitimate needs they were addressed. It was a very generous church group.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)Attack her claims, not her.
Alleged victims are not free game. Their claims are.
This is not up for debate.
DURHAM D
(32,846 posts)Why don't you tell me your take away from her grifting.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)We aren't Trump; at least I didn't think we were.
DURHAM D
(32,846 posts)lie, particularly when it is for money.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)It's weird that this is a controversy on a liberal site.
I refuse to attack anyone who claims to be a victim for any other reason than that the specific claim was debunked.
You mileage may vary, but I think it is important to take such claims seriously. Rather than attack the claimaint, it's best to attack the claim.
Forgive me for being consistent.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)the fact that she's changed her story and those who reportedly knew her told reporters she was attention seeking and lacked credibility. This story bolsters the notion that she's not a credible individual.
uponit7771
(91,904 posts)mzmolly
(51,685 posts)Her claim has been examined.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)I am saying we should take it seriously and not dismiss it out of hand especially because of unrelated events. We are better than that.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)Sorry, me too has to stop allowing women to use sexual assault or harassment as a political weapon or they will lose all credibility and such women make women less believable. Tara Reade is a habitual liar.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)It's the same position I take with all people making such claims. It's the standard that we should all adhere to.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)seriously when they are clearly political in nature. And not only do I not take Reade seriously, I condemn her as she causes those who are telling the truth not to be believed. Republicans have weaponized Me Too and used it against Democrats. It must end. I doubt Me Too can not survive this and that is a shame.
said. Thank you!
OnDoutside
(20,663 posts)Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)Consistency is key. I am not sure what you are afraid of. I think Biden is innocent and this is made up. There is no reason to bypass the process and leave questions.
Also, Biden agrees with me: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-when-a-woman-alleges-sexual-assault-presume-she-is-telling-the-truth/2018/09/17/7718c532-badd-11e8-a8aa-860695e7f3fc_story.html
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)We will not allow those who want to make Sanders the nominee invent a process (Sanders has nothing to do with this) for an allegation from an obvious liar and grifter...the record is clear. No need to pretend there is even a chance she is telling the truth...
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)Biden agrees with me. Simmer down.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)attacking people.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)I don't know what it is about you and short-cutting processes. Fortunately, our presumptive nominee agrees with me.
He's going to be cleared in all of this. Quit playing chicken-little with Biden. He's a grown up and can handle it.
Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)She is a politically motivated liar. You can't make it so anytime there is an accusation particularly a political one and assume it to be true with no investigation or vetting...that is madness. Since Kavanagh was being confirmed and the stature of limitation had not expired, an FBI investigation was reasonable...of course it was a bullshit investigation. Biden is running for president...not the same thing.
Gore1FL
(21,944 posts)It's divisive.
What part of "Biden agrees with me" eludes you?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Demsrule86
(71,030 posts)The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)When the credibility and truth of a charge is at issue, the character of the person laying the charge must be assessed. In taking stock of a person's character, that person's whole past is relevant. A record of thieving and lying is quite proper to bring forward, and is ample reason to disregard any charge a person makes.
You are correct this is not up for debate, it is just that you are on the wrong side of the settled issue.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
Gothmog
(155,010 posts)DenverJared
(457 posts)and this story proves it
misanthrope
(8,275 posts)how quickly the right learned to weaponize MeToo. It sucks because women should be believed when they make these claims yet these type operations only serve to undercut legitimate allegations.
has absolutely been weaponized. We've seen multiple attempts to use it against prominent men on the left, or just perceived enemies of Trump.
I think that Reade was likely fired, or just not retained from her internship with Bidens office. It was in August, so wouldn't that be about the time an internship would be ending? I think she was upset that she wasn't offered an acutal job and started back the making up stories of why it happened. Initially it was that there were "problems' in his office and she was being treated unfairly by the staff. That's what she told her mother who then called into a Larry King show that about about Senate staff issues. Then over time it morphed. When other women started saying Biden made them uncomfortable she jumped in and said that's why she was fired. Then when that didn't hurt him she dialed it up some to the current story. Her story keeps changing because she keeps changing it.
Why does she have multiple twitter accounts? Why is she deleting articles from Medium? What's up with all of the information on lawsuits and legal problems that are coming up about her? Why are there multiple stories about why she moved from Washington?
The only people who buy this story are the people who REALLY want it to be true. That's the Rose Twitter crowd and the far right.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)good public servant.
Good questions!
crickets
(26,148 posts)Gothmog
(155,010 posts)I tried to be fair to Reade. I read her accusations and the information she claims support her accusations. I don't find her credible.
Gothmog
(155,010 posts)mzmolly
(51,685 posts)info. Thanks!
Gothmog
(155,010 posts)mzmolly
(51,685 posts)with his answer, under the circumstances.
Thanks for sharing.
meow2u3
(24,930 posts)iwannaknow
(213 posts)Admirable Traits
- Donated 2 years of her valuable time to help out a charity she believed in
- Told the truth about her ex-husband's abusive behavior
- Wanted to save her horse's life
- Money was clearly NOT her primary focus
- Told the truth about having worked for Biden. (The notion that she would have said something about the abuse if it had happened is completely unfounded.)
- Her resume seems accurate
Inadmirable Traits
- Was unwilling to pay the price for being so focused on ideals and not enough on financial stability
- Was willing to place unauthorized charges to get her horse taken care of. This could never have worked out well
- Possibly did something shady to get a prize she wanted (although we haven't heard her side of this story).
- Behaved as if PMR owed her something, even though she had willingly volunteered to help them
By all accounts, Tara's character is far from perfect. But is she the one who is 'on trial' here? Is she the one who is interviewing for the job of President of the United States? The focus on this article (although the author appears to have a legitimate gripe) is consistent with the character assassination a woman faces when she dares speak out about sexual assault or rape. It does not prove a thing, except perhaps that she is someone with imperfect behavior.
mzmolly
(51,685 posts)Please add
- lied about experiences with a politician, without regard for the impact on the nation, the politician, or his family
to the In-admirable traits category.
And, read the story about her 'valuable time' donation as linked above.
I don't care if she filed for bankruptcy, didn't have much money, was or was not assaulted by her X husband.
I do care about her integrity as it relates to the ever changing story she's telling regarding Joe Biden.
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