Psychologist says Herr Orange is a sexual sadist

[47of74]

Truth

Psychologist and psychotherapist John Gartner, contributor to the bestselling book "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump" and co-founder of the Duty to WARN PAC, has an answer: Donald Trump is a malignant narcissist. Our president's mental pathologies inexorably compel him to hurt and kill large numbers of people — including his own supporters.

Dr. Gartner taught for many years at the Johns Hopkins University Medical School, and has private therapeutic practices in Baltimore and New York, specializing in the treatment of borderline personality disorders. In our most recent conversation, he explains that sadism and violence are central to Trump's malignant narcissism and his decision-making about the coronavirus pandemic. Gartner also warns that Donald Trump is an abuser locked into a deeply dysfunctional relationship with the American people and that, like other sadists, Trump enjoys causing harm and suffering.

Ultimately, Gartner concludes that Donald Trump is engaging in "democidal behavior" and cautions that the tens of thousands of dead (so far) from the coronavirus pandemic are not simply collateral damage from Trump's policies, but rather the logical outcome of Trump's apparent mental pathologies and the poor decisions that flow from them.

[Botany]

1. "the logical outcome of Trump's apparent mental pathologies"

[empedocles]

2. 'If trump believes he will lose the Election' - he is capable of doing even worse harms than he has

done already.

[Chainfire]

4. So you think

that he will want to go out with a bang?

There is a long time between November and January. The transition could be interesting.

[Texin]

24. Chainfire, he doesn't plan to "go out with a bang" at all.

He, like other demented tyrants will kill everyone before he lets anyone take the reins he *controls* from him. So long as McConnell and others in the once-Senate let him keep doing what he does without check, no one (including them, by the way), are safe.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

43. He has to be forcibly removed

And neutralized.

There may be no other way.

[42bambi]

3. Trump's brain is similar to a kink in a hose, just enough comes through to partially

complete the job.

[jaxexpat]

8. The "kinked hose presidency".

Has a certain poetry to it.
My usual instincts are to pity such but in this case the pitiless resolution seems most satisfying.

[mercuryblues]

5. If you have ever seen trump

talk, you would know this.

Look at the way he acts when talking about death. He can not hide his glee. I call it his death porn. He knows he is responsible for many deaths yet he is very animated when talking about it.

He can not understand why people aren't as happy with his response to any tragedy as he is. His narcissism prevents him from understanding why something that makes him happy, pisses others off. Nothing makes him happier than mass graves, ordering assassinations, and genocide.

He loves taboo sex. young girls, grabbing women, lusting after his daughter, and porn stars. This is what we know about him. What don't we know? Has he raped and murdered a female? Brutally beaten one? Forget the pee tapes, did Epstein have this on video? He raped and beat his now ex-wife.

I have said is response to C-19 is his planned response. Even a complete idiot would get something right even if by accident. Like the author says: "Trump has made the wrong decision every single time in terms of how crises like this are supposed to be dealt with"

Quite simply, trump needs to feed his blood lust. Death Porn. Kurds, Puerto Rico, Now Covid.

What we know about people like him, they escalate as they decompensate. They also do not stop until they are forced to. We have a republican party who not only turns a blind eye, they encourage his behavior. He is enthralled with nuclear weapons, will he try to use them on his way out the door?

[oldsoftie]

18. Trump cannot use nukes all by himself.

Thats not how the system works. Even if he'd LIKE it to be that way

[SoonerPride]

32. Well, yes, he can. The only thing stopping his would be generals disobeying his order

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/11/17/16656856/trump-congress-nuclear-weapons-war

[oldsoftie]

36. And thats exactly what would happen.

Nobody is going to obey a trump launch order. He'd never do it anyway because it would guarantee HIS demise. And he can never accept that

[mercuryblues]

48. And that's why I said

try to use them.

[Grasswire2]

44. and he has Stephen Miller..

..to carry out the blood lust.

[CurtEastPoint]

6. "Calm down. Nice and easy. Keep your voice down. Just relax. Just relax.'

I cannot think of anything creepier that those exchanges w/female reporters.

[area51]

14. +1 n/t

[Jamastiene]

23. The way he touches his daughter and the way he crept up behind Hillary Clinton

are creepier, but yes, the way he talks to female reporters is VERY creepy too. Everything about him creeps me out.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. Speaks volumes

that Dr. Gartner taught at Johns Hopkins. No nonsense going on there.

Based on people I've known, I'd bet narcissist/borderline/anti-social/sadism often develop and intertwine. It would be negligent not to draw a tangent line to full blown Nazism. Compromises with convention and morality and empathy are made only to further the goals of the pathologies. Their personalities are governed from the dark side. I guarantee this with every fiber of my being.

[dalton99a]

9. He is loving it:

[SummerSnow]

10. Now that is some scary stuff

[COLGATE4]

11. Well, what the hell does HE know?

Who ever heard of John Hopkins? Sounds like a Kentucky Bourbon. Bunch of edumacated fools, IMO.*


*(In case actually necessary)

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Coincidental you posted this, because I've been reading up

on narcisissm this morning.

It is truly eye-opening how trump fits most if not all of the variations of grandiose and malignant narcissism and sociopathic behaviors.

That said, even though it's not our job, or the job of government colleagues & the press to treat him as the diseased person he is, we may have had much better outcomes if we had.

To me, the biggest failure was to not get him to buy in to the idea that wearing a mask was the right thing to do. Prefacing with "SO many people look up to you! They listen to you as their leader!!..." could have actually saved many lives.

So what do we want now, what's left to salvage? More testing. How do we do that, through the lens of treating him as a narcissist rather than a well-adjusted human being?





https://www.verywellmind.com/understanding-the-narcissistic-sociopath-4587611

[lagomorph777]

16. it's not our job, or the job of (officials) & the press to treat him as the diseased person he is

I strongly disagree. It IS the duty of every citizen, ESPECIALLY government officials and the press, to treat him as diseased and dangerous.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Yes, should have added "typically" or " in a normal world"..

My point is, if one recognized how maladjusted he was, we *might* have been able to achieve better outcomes? Although it's probably virtually impossible for the entire universe to have done that. Perhaps, if our leaders could have worked behind the scenes?

Trouble is, he's replaced any free thinkers that surround him. And replaced them with weak followers.

[NCjack]

30. The all of the newspapers of USA should be calling for resignations

of Trump and the GOP Senators

[Laura PourMeADrink]

31. When? Back when we realized he was crazy or now due to COVID

[NCjack]

35. The moment he lied while taking the oath of office. nt

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. He lied while taking the oath? JHC why didn't I know that?

[NCjack]

47. He promised to uphold the Constitution. When he said it, he knew it was a lie.

[Danascot]

26. Bandy X. Lee has been warning of Trump's instability and danger

for most of his presidency. Here's a recent article:

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/yale-psychiatrist-warns-trump-will-take-millions-down-with-him-as-his-mental-state-disintegrates/

[sarge43]

13. During that disinfected 'briefing', Dr Birx behaved just like an abused wife

Head down, avoiding eye contact, posture either tight or limp, hands folded, making no threatening gestures.

This weekend she was making the talking head rounds, blaming the media for "making too much" of Moron's little faux pas. I'm surprise she didn't blame herself.

Have to wonder how many times during the inhouse staff briefings, Moron verbally abused and threatened her.

Yeah, he's a sadist.

[MFGsunny]

20. + 1000 n/t

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. Truest thing I heard her say though was that trump was

brainstorming solutions (good thing) in the wrong setting ( in front of the world).

[Grasswire2]

45. yes

and some members of the press corps also exhibit behavior of the abused.

Jonathan Karl, PRESIDENT OF THE WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENTS ASSOCIATION, is being called out for his submissive behavior to Trump's dominance.

[lagomorph777]

15. "like other sadists, Trump enjoys causing harm and suffering"

This is the piece the MSM consistently refuses to acknowledge. They constantly act surprised and puzzled when his actions cause suffering. They pretend that he is motivated by wanting to improve the economy or the death toll, and can't understand why he would act contrary to those assumed goals.

Those are not his goals. His goal is to hurt and kill people. That is his biggest orgasm.

[Loki Liesmith]

17. long distance diagnosis is a bad idea

It's clear Trump has some kind of psychological damage. Narrowing it down to a particular diagnosis without having done a thorough workup on the man is bad practice. Publicly announcing it is worse.

We don't know what's exactly wrong with Trump, and we don't need to know. It's clear (indeed he practically admits it) that he's dangerously unfit for his office and the remedy is the same: remove him by whatever legal means necessary.

This kind of faux diagnosis is only meant to make us feel good about disliking Trump and to get a charge out of dumping humiliation on him. I don't need more reasons to do the former and I have no need at all to do the latter.

[hughee99]

25. If there is one thing I've learned in all my years here, it's that

Remote diagnosis is practically medical malpractice, unless they’re saying something you want to believe, and then it’s not just reliable, it’s “evidence”.

[H2O Man]

19. Recommended.

I'm currently doing a second interview with Dr. Bandy Lee, the Yale forensic psychologist and author/ editor of "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump." I posted the first one on DU in February, before the current crisis was surfacing in the US. This one will focus on life in the age of the synergy of the Trump and corona crises. I will post it on DU when it is completed.

[dalton99a]

27. +1. Please do.

[shanti]

40. Yes please!

I look forward to reading it.

[Marrah_Goodman]

28. He had Stormy spanking him with a magazine

Not generally the actions of a sexual sadist. Malignant narcissist sounds about right though.

[Ford_Prefect]

29. What does this say about McConnell and the gang of sadists who enable Trump?

[47of74]

38. It says they need to be voted out of office and never allowed to hold elective office ever again.

All of them should be voted out of office then told come January to take their comfy pensions and go away. To where I don't care, they just need to take their money and get the fuck out of our sights.

If I never seen or herd from Joni Ernst ever again, for example, it would be too fucking soon.

[leftyladyfrommo]

33. His followers have some serious problems. Too. nt

[greenjar_01]

34. "Psychologists diagnose Trump" is a dumb genre of post

Just sayin'...

[live love laugh]

37. Clue #1: only president in recent history w/out a dog.

I would bet money he was cruel to animals at some point in his life.

[Poiuyt]

39. This is kind of chilling

[Blue Owl]

41. Sickfuck von Bodybag is a creepy, loathsome sack of shit

To hell with him...

[47of74]

42. Yes indeed

And I just acquired a new term to describe that sack of shit.