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Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:01 PM Apr 2020

If Trump loses, how does the GOP rebuild? I don't think they can run another racist with the

changing demographics. I think Trump got in by the skin of his teeth taking that route. In the future I think that gets harder and harder. Once he loses he will be radioactive to the GOP. A lot of his supporters will say they never liked him. Seems like the GOP will have to go back to the George Bush route courting latino's and minorities and this is going to turn off their base.

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If Trump loses, how does the GOP rebuild? I don't think they can run another racist with the (Original Post) Quixote1818 Apr 2020 OP
with any luck at all...they can't... dhill926 Apr 2020 #1
K&R, It depends on how dems label the kGOP and make it stick. If we're going to rub on their backs uponit7771 Apr 2020 #2
Let's win this one first, then fuck them, they can crawl under a rock. dem4decades Apr 2020 #3
I hope you are right, but I doubt it. Jamastiene Apr 2020 #4
except AR GA TX and NC are changing because of high Latino populations coming of age gopiscrap Apr 2020 #14
Until the Trump packed courts Jake Stern Apr 2020 #17
All the rethugs that get voted out need to be prevented from getting lucrative lobbying jobs captain queeg Apr 2020 #5
I really don't care, do you? Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #6
GOP Rebuild? andym Apr 2020 #7
This right here Jake Stern Apr 2020 #10
Ugh, I wish all these Cons just croaked dustyscamp Apr 2020 #15
THIS, except for the "will be fine" part. Too soon to say. Hortensis Apr 2020 #24
I respectfully disagree Jake Stern Apr 2020 #8
As Melania says "I don't care! Do you?"! imanamerican63 Apr 2020 #9
that's a hypothetical game i want to play but not until november lol Takket Apr 2020 #11
Racism's all they know. The only diff this time was the all-out Gov George Wallace populist racism Hekate Apr 2020 #12
The GOP will eract the same way they always do ThoughtCriminal Apr 2020 #13
Since I think the good of the United States should be utmost misanthrope Apr 2020 #16
They're toast Cicada Apr 2020 #18
Here's a better question: If he loses, does he run in 2024 if he's healthy enough? Polybius Apr 2020 #19
Worked for Grover Cleveland Jake Stern Apr 2020 #21
These days I think of the GOP as the RepubliCANTs. Totally Tunsie Apr 2020 #20
Tom Cotton says hi awesomerwb1 Apr 2020 #22
Disagree ibegurpard Apr 2020 #23

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. K&R, It depends on how dems label the kGOP and make it stick. If we're going to rub on their backs
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:06 PM
Apr 2020

... and act like their will be better days expect them to come back with more racism.

If we're going to choke the shit out of them till their last breath with jail time, fines and social demeaning the kGOP will be reformed to what we saw in Eisenhower admin.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
4. I hope you are right, but I doubt it.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:19 PM
Apr 2020

Where I live, racism rules. In most of the country, most of the "flyover" states and the south, racism is still front and center. There are lots of hate groups even in the "blue" states like California and NY.

So, they could run another racist easily. I see where it might not work nationwide, if we were talking about population, but we still have the electoral college. I think they can keep right on running racists for ages, considering how the electoral college is set up and how resistant to changing it the vast majority of our politicians are.

Don't kill the messenger. I'm not saying it is right or that I agree with it at all. I wish I could get rid of racism, personally. I despise it. I am just pointing out what is our reality, when it comes to the electoral college and just how bad racism STILL really is in America. The GOP could run racists forever and still get a lot of votes in America.

We need to make it so racism becomes not "normalized." Right now, especially, there is a resurgence of it. Racism has always been part of America, but for a while was considered something we should work on. Somewhere along the way, people stopped working on it and now here we are, back to square one. Racism is normalized. We need to make sure people know that is NOT normal, to un-normalize it somehow, if that makes any sense.

gopiscrap

(23,758 posts)
14. except AR GA TX and NC are changing because of high Latino populations coming of age
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

if they lose FL or TX game over. Remember NC wentr D once in the last 3 elections and FL went D twice in the last 3 elections VA 3 out of 3

captain queeg

(10,185 posts)
5. All the rethugs that get voted out need to be prevented from getting lucrative lobbying jobs
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020

I hope we have a blue wave and shut down K street.

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
6. I really don't care, do you?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020

If Repubs never win another election, America will be a better place.

Time for the Repub party to go the way of the Whigs.

andym

(5,443 posts)
7. GOP Rebuild?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:31 PM
Apr 2020

They have the Supreme Court, and a majority of states are red. They have aces in the holes with Fox News and talk radio to bind and manipulate their voters. They will be fine--unfortunately.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
10. This right here
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:36 PM
Apr 2020

In another OP I spoke of a Trumper relative who told me, point blank, that he didn't care if Trump loses in November because he's packed the courts with so many of his appointees that "liberals won't get anything done for the next 25 years" and by then he'll be dead.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. THIS, except for the "will be fine" part. Too soon to say.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:39 AM
Apr 2020

They've committed to the destruction of representative government to survive, and most of their voters will support that. They've also doubled down on being a white power, Christian, male-dominated party with extremist views and agenda.

This is obviously only sustainable if they succeed in taking over and establishing a strong authoritarian government.

Of course you're so right about the power they currently have. But they're a minority, and the majority of the electorate are against them.

Assuming they lose in November, a great deal will depend on how badly. Lost the presidency for one term, or the next decade? Will they keep control of the senate, or are they mostly benched as a party? Regain control of states they lost in 2018, or lose more?

I don't want to think about what would happen if, due to massive election subversion, they were to win in November and resume consolidating power.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
8. I respectfully disagree
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:31 PM
Apr 2020

I believe it will be quite the opposite: he'll settle into role of GOP kingmaker. He rouses their base in a way that no other Republican since Reagan has and aspiring Republican candidates will be jetting to Florida to kiss his ring and secure his blessing.

Hekate

(90,671 posts)
12. Racism's all they know. The only diff this time was the all-out Gov George Wallace populist racism
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:47 PM
Apr 2020

...not the "soft" racism they've been peddling since Nixon. They'll probably go back to dog-whistles for the knuckle-draggers, plus a slew of candidates that can present themselves to suburban women as sort of polite conservatives.

As Michelle Obama would say: Don't Be Fooled.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
13. The GOP will eract the same way they always do
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

Move farther to the right.

It doesn't matter if they win or lose, that is how they have reacted to every win and every loss. Positive feedback loops will do that.

And yes, they will not have any trouble deciding that Trump's failures were due to him being "too close to the middle" and not being a "true" conservative. As extreme as the GOP has already become, there is still plenty more over the next hill.

They will look back to 2010 for strategies and weaponize them for 2022.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
16. Since I think the good of the United States should be utmost
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 08:17 PM
Apr 2020

I would prefer to see them moderate. Going back in the direction of Ike or Rockefeller Republicans would be preferable to their current Know-Nothing identity.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
18. They're toast
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 10:11 PM
Apr 2020

As the old die off and the young replace them the Republican Party will cease to be a national party.

Polybius

(15,395 posts)
19. Here's a better question: If he loses, does he run in 2024 if he's healthy enough?
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 10:25 PM
Apr 2020

I think he could win the nomination again.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
20. These days I think of the GOP as the RepubliCANTs.
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 10:35 PM
Apr 2020

If nothing else, it's my answer to their incorrect use of "Democrat", as in Democrat Party.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
22. Tom Cotton says hi
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:42 AM
Apr 2020

That's just one on the list.

You know one of the biggest mistakes Dems make over and over?

Underestimate 'republicans". Those f-ers are worse than cockroaches. They always find a way to gain power.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
23. Disagree
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:18 AM
Apr 2020

This is the best chance for a winning coalition they have. The racism and xenophobia doesnt bother the majority of the anti-taxers enough to abandon the party and it riles up a huge subset that otherwise might sit it out... the "deplorables". I'm seeing the supposed "moderates" using the Trump playbook in primaries now.

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