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applegrove

(118,462 posts)
Mon Apr 27, 2020, 11:41 PM Apr 2020

Trump's wall of solid Republican support shows cracks, as mass death shakes faith of his faithful

Trump's wall of solid Republican support shows cracks, as mass death shakes faith of his faithful

Apr 27, 2020 2:37pm by kos, Daily Kos Staff

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1940799

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Once upon a time, impeached president Donald Trump claimed that “only” 60,000 dead people would mean he was doing a “good job,” rating himself “10 out of 10.” We’re going to blow by 60,000 this week and keep going, likely into six figures. And suddenly, both the Republican rank and file as well as Republican strategists are realizing that maybe, just maybe, this isn’t all going as well as Trump pretends. 

In our daily tracking poll on satisfaction with the federal response to the novel coronavirus outbreak, overall sentiment has been gradually running away from Trump. Currently, among all registered voters, 40% are satisfied versus 58% who are not. Among Independents, it’s 39-59, down from 42-54 when the national emergency was first declared. 

But even among Republicans, satisfaction with the federal government’s response is at an all-time low: 

The numbers are still 82-16 “satisfied,” but that’s down from 86-10 at Trump’s highest point. And remember, this is an election of inches. We don’t need mass defections. 

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SCantiGOP

(13,862 posts)
2. Losing supporters is of course important
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:17 AM
Apr 2020

But what we need are a few well known Congressmen with R’s after their names to publicly break with him, like Romney did with his impeachment vote.
Once a few did it, it would be much easier for the others.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
3. Don't expect the GOP to break, that ship is sinking. It's the republican
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:25 AM
Apr 2020

voter at the margin, and the Independents who normally vote Republican. That's where there will be another blue wave, bigger than 2018.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
4. When it was 20,000 I was saying here, wait until there are 70,000
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:32 AM
Apr 2020

people in body bags. At 60,000 you can see support shifting, wait until 120,000...and it will get to at least 120,000.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
6. When it was at 20K, I tried to look at it logically, and I think that logic has been borne out. The
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:01 AM
Apr 2020

US was one of the latest to bring in stay at home measures, with many states only paying lip service to it, and it was reflected in the numbers of dead. New York and a few other blue states are coming down the other side, but many Red States are opening back up or did nothing at all. I really don't see how the virus doesn't continue to kill, especially in Red states. You need a combined national effort and that just hasn't happened. It's only taken 60 days to get 60,000 deaths. Exactly a month ago, it was just under 3,000 deaths. That's the scale of this thing, and for me, the only way you don't see 120,000 Corona related deaths is if they stop testing for CV.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
9. I hope so too, but i fear i am not. Even watching Rachel's show tonight doesn't give any hope for
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:34 AM
Apr 2020

the next few weeks.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
8. I agree with this
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:09 AM
Apr 2020

I think people in more sparsely populated rural states are feeling as if this is a big city thing, because the numbers are so underreported. The county I'm currently in (which isn't where I live most of the year but I got stranded by this) has been holding steady at 100+ some confirmed cases and 5 deaths for a week now. That is ridiculously, impossibly low considering it's a small city of a quarter million and the slow-down is very lax. There aren't enough tests, and deaths are not being correctly registered.

I remember the heat wave disaster in Chicago in 1995 that killed more than 700 people. The final toll took months to assess, because so many of the victims were isolated elderly people in poor areas. The heat wave happened in July. They were STILL finding bodies into September. Now imagine that on a massive nationwide scale.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
10. Yes, and we've been told repeatedly that those rural states don't have the hospital bed space to
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:37 AM
Apr 2020

cater for anything like their spike. So any Republican in control can just stop testing and then they haven't died from CV. But funeral homes will show the truth, when they can't bury people fast enough.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
11. They absolutely do NOT have the hospital space
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 04:16 AM
Apr 2020

I'm from Appalachia, where rural hospitals have been consistently closing. Many people are more than an hour's drive away from a hospital even at ambulance speeds. Currently I'm in a small city in NC that is kind of a health-care hub but it still does NOT have the capacity, and I have it from many local sources I know that people showing up at ERs with classic C19 symptoms are told to go away and shelter at home IF they don't have insurance.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
13. And they could die without ever being tested, allowing Republicans to claim it's not an issue in
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:15 AM
Apr 2020

their area. If i was an enterprising journalist, i would be contacting all the funeral directors in the area for the numbers they are dealing with currently versus previous years.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,236 posts)
12. Another gruesome point to consider: Red local gov'ts will conceal numbers.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 04:54 AM
Apr 2020

Under-testing yields under-reporting. If one is deliberate, so is the other.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
14. Oh, absolutely.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 05:17 AM
Apr 2020

We'll never know the real truth.

I hate to say this. I do not wish for the kind of tragic, horrible, painful, lonely deaths that C19 victims are having. I don't wish that on anyone. But to be honest, I do wish that the blinders are forcibly peeled from the eyes of all the deniers and minimizers.

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