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babylonsister

(171,048 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:45 AM Apr 2020

Tucker Carlson: Coronavirus 'Isn't Nearly as Deadly as We Thought'



Tucker Carlson: Coronavirus ‘Isn’t Nearly as Deadly as We Thought’
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Apparently, Carlson believes he took the coronavirus pandemic too seriously early on.
Justin Baragona
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Published Apr. 27, 2020 11:01PM ET


Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who received mainstream praise for helping push President Donald Trump to take the coronavirus pandemic seriously, confidently declared on Monday night that the virus that has killed more than 56,000 Americans in only a few weeks “just isn’t nearly as deadly as we thought it was.”

Pointing to recent antibody studies that show high rates of infection in New York and California, Carlson kicked off his primetime Fox News program by claiming these tests—which critics have warned could be flawed due to false positives and statistical errors—reveal the disease is not as dangerous as advertised.

“This new evidence means the virus is far less deadly, a full order of magnitude less deadly, that authorities first told us it was,” the Tucker Carlson Tonight host said. “At the same time, the same research suggests the virus is incredibly easy to spread between adults.”


The Fox star eventually moved on to highly scrutinized claims made by a pair of California doctors to further his case that coronavirus has already infected a large percentage of the population with very little damage.

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Tucker Carlson: Coronavirus 'Isn't Nearly as Deadly as We Thought' (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2020 OP
Tell that to the 56,000 dead Americans, tucker.... spanone Apr 2020 #1
Also, tell it to those who have died of other things Rorey Apr 2020 #4
half as deadly, but twice as contagious Blues Heron Apr 2020 #2
It is bad, but the dumb asshole doesn't realize that there was mitigation by the stay at home still_one Apr 2020 #3
+33. n/t Harker Apr 2020 #8
Yep. This was always going to be the narrative from them... Volaris Apr 2020 #27
As usual they try to distort the truth. As if 56,000 dead is not devastating enough tulipsandroses Apr 2020 #5
Just this spring another 20,000 fatalities expected Bucky Apr 2020 #6
New slogan, "Watch Fox News and Die" Botany Apr 2020 #7
+1 dalton99a Apr 2020 #14
FOX News Kills. nt crickets Apr 2020 #23
"Deadly" no_hypocrisy Apr 2020 #9
Part of the problem is that years of ridiculously high CDC estimates of flu deaths, Squinch Apr 2020 #10
The 60,000 figure was supposed to be by August of this year. Botany Apr 2020 #11
Yes, of course. We'll probably have 100k by summer. But that is beside my point. Squinch Apr 2020 #13
The # of cases and deaths both here and world wide will be in the 10s of millions and ... Botany Apr 2020 #15
I think we will come to realize that the number of both have been Squinch Apr 2020 #17
I hope I am wrong but one of the organs that C-19 attacks is the intestines and that causes .... Botany Apr 2020 #20
I hope you are wrong too, but no one can definitively say you are. Squinch Apr 2020 #21
Welp... Squinch Apr 2020 #22
Well noted. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #12
I hope he gets it malaise Apr 2020 #16
Carlson "... falling out of the airplane isn't as bad as we thought lets cut the parachute.." uponit7771 Apr 2020 #18
In simplest of examinations of data, Ilsa Apr 2020 #19
Let's make things as simple as possible, Igel Apr 2020 #24
I know, i know. But I thought it would be simple enough for Ilsa Apr 2020 #25
We don't have the data to judge this because we are not testing enough people. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #26

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
4. Also, tell it to those who have died of other things
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:55 AM
Apr 2020

We'll never know the exact number of people who died, or will die, because they didn't get timely medical treatment because they couldn't see a doctor, or get into a hospital, or were afraid to go to a hospital, etc. We'll never know how many cancers weren't detected because tests weren't done in a timely manner.

Tucker Carlson can rot in hell.

still_one

(92,110 posts)
3. It is bad, but the dumb asshole doesn't realize that there was mitigation by the stay at home
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:52 AM
Apr 2020

directive which saved lives

We also don't have a full counting of cases or deaths that have occurred because of lack of testing, and some who died were not ever tested, and cause of death was listed as pneumonia without knowing if they were positive or not for covid

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
27. Yep. This was always going to be the narrative from them...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:51 PM
Apr 2020

Its going to kill a whole lot of people if we dont stay home.

Ok, we will all stay home.

Less people died. See? it was justa liburl conspearasy tryin to hurt our GawdEmperer n take away r Freedums.

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
5. As usual they try to distort the truth. As if 56,000 dead is not devastating enough
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:56 AM
Apr 2020

They fail to address the point that we have done a fantastic job on social distancing to slow the spread, which in turn also affected the death rate. And even with the great job that we have done - we still lost 56,000 in a relatively short period. Just imagine if had not put those stay at home policies in place.

He is a part of the death cult encouraging people to get back to work to get the economy back on track. And none of the people pushing this will be in danger. They are not the security guard at the mall, the sales clerk on the floor at the shoe store, waitresses, teachers, etc. They are not in jobs that put their lives in extreme risk due to coming in contact with lots of people that may have the virus.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
6. Just this spring another 20,000 fatalities expected
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:57 AM
Apr 2020

Possibly twice that many with life-altering debilities in their upper respiratory systems. So right, Tucker, it's "not that bad, so long as you don't care about other people.

no_hypocrisy

(46,061 posts)
9. "Deadly"
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:19 AM
Apr 2020

Hey Tucker! You mean like:

1. 58,220-plus deaths and counting?
2. Untreatable bilateral pneumonia?
3. Kidney failure?
4. The lining of your blood vessels shedding which allows for infinite clots to travel to your lungs, your brain, your heart?

And this is doable, Tucker?

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
10. Part of the problem is that years of ridiculously high CDC estimates of flu deaths,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:29 AM
Apr 2020

which were really just guesses based on total pneumonia and respiratory deaths, gave these assholes a statistic that allows them to say that CV is not much worse than flu.

These ridiculous CDC flu estimates that say things like "flu deaths last year are estimated to be between 16,000 to 60,000" have come home to roost. The media invariably reports the higher number and THIS is what allows republicans to make the absurd statement that "Covid is not worse that flu."

We are now seeing what 60,000 deaths in a single season actually looks like.

Botany

(70,479 posts)
15. The # of cases and deaths both here and world wide will be in the 10s of millions and ...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:41 AM
Apr 2020

.... probably much greater.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
17. I think we will come to realize that the number of both have been
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:44 AM
Apr 2020

magnitudes greater than we now know. But I don't think deaths will get to the tens of millions.

That is just my opinion though. We don't really have any decent information.

Botany

(70,479 posts)
20. I hope I am wrong but one of the organs that C-19 attacks is the intestines and that causes ....
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:48 AM
Apr 2020

.... diarrhea and in third world countries without sanitary sewer systems or where people
work in rice paddies "the beast" could spread like wide fire.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
21. I hope you are wrong too, but no one can definitively say you are.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:03 AM
Apr 2020

And your point about the gastric issues is valid.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
19. In simplest of examinations of data,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:47 AM
Apr 2020

It's a 5.6% death rate. It may not be as deadltpy as Marburg or Ebola, but with the rate of transmission, if almost everyone gets the disease, that's 18 million dead Americans.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
24. Let's make things as simple as possible,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:01 AM
Apr 2020

but not simpler than possible.

5.6% derives from an analysis that's quite a bit simpler than possible.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
25. I know, i know. But I thought it would be simple enough for
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 12:38 PM
Apr 2020

Trumpers and hoaxers.

Epidemiological data is far more complicated.

Midnight Writer

(21,734 posts)
26. We don't have the data to judge this because we are not testing enough people.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 01:40 PM
Apr 2020

We have no idea how many have been infected and we have unreliable numbers for deaths.

Garbage in, garbage out.

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