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Would you be willing to stop eating meat to force the issue of workplace safety? (Original Post) milestogo Apr 2020 OP
I don't eat much meat as it is and use to be a Vegetarian. TruckFump Apr 2020 #1
Same here. old guy Apr 2020 #4
Same here! NYFlip Apr 2020 #20
I'm in the same boat. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #64
yes JI7 Apr 2020 #2
Yes I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #3
I think exceptions can be made in cases like this JI7 Apr 2020 #7
I agree with you I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #11
Yes, but I need protein LeftInTX Apr 2020 #5
Yes! nt delisen Apr 2020 #6
What is going to replace it? Rae Apr 2020 #8
beans , mushrooms beyond meat , impossible burgers etc . And this is not meant to be permanent JI7 Apr 2020 #12
Beyond Meat burgers are delicious! StarryNite Apr 2020 #31
And super processed SlogginThroughIt Apr 2020 #63
Yes mcar Apr 2020 #9
I am a meat eater Chainfire Apr 2020 #10
If I thought it would work - but it won't Runningdawg Apr 2020 #13
Bring on the mac & cheese. ooky Apr 2020 #14
No, but I am willing to go with local producers and buy direct from the famer Champion Jack Apr 2020 #15
Lol nt USALiberal Apr 2020 #51
I love meat but yes I would quit. Doreen Apr 2020 #16
yes, of course. Goodheart Apr 2020 #17
Yes! Delmette2.0 Apr 2020 #18
I just bought 1/4 a beef from a local farmer, grass fed uppityperson Apr 2020 #19
exactly Champion Jack Apr 2020 #67
I could easily cut back to almost nothing. But would need cheese, beans/legumes and occasionally smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #21
POSALUTELY! cornball 24 Apr 2020 #22
Yes, yes, yes. Marie Marie Apr 2020 #23
yes gopiscrap Apr 2020 #24
Already decided to do so. Yeehah Apr 2020 #25
I could if necessary, phylny Apr 2020 #26
Already a vegetarian, but would welcome more!!! Coventina Apr 2020 #27
Only if every single meat and poultry packer/processer got infected. Igel Apr 2020 #28
17 of them have died MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #45
Ethical sourcing. meadowlander Apr 2020 #29
Absolutely. spanone Apr 2020 #30
I try to avoid factory farmed meat. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #32
I need meat in my diet... ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2020 #33
I only eat local grass fed beef from ranchers I know womanofthehills Apr 2020 #34
I'm disgusted with my factory farm meat eating habits. nilesobek Apr 2020 #35
LOL, that question here in GD. flvegan Apr 2020 #36
I'm appealing to the humanitarian impulse, not caring for animals. milestogo Apr 2020 #40
I'm already a vegetarian nt Raine Apr 2020 #37
Yes. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #38
do we feel the same about all production facilities? stopdiggin Apr 2020 #39
Already a vegetarian for @ three decades. n/t demmiblue Apr 2020 #41
you should make this a poll Demonaut Apr 2020 #42
Yes. MoonlitKnight Apr 2020 #43
People didn't before this. Why would they now? WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2020 #44
I have enough meat frozen to last me quite a while Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #46
Shutting down the meat factories wouldn't have a big impact on my diet. hunter Apr 2020 #47
Finding Vegan can help you with that. Chellee Apr 2020 #58
That link is wonderful. hunter Apr 2020 #59
You're welcome! Chellee Apr 2020 #61
Yes TNLib Apr 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author totodeinhere Apr 2020 #49
Once people stop eating meat, they rarely (no pun) go back to previous meat consumption levels greenjar_01 Apr 2020 #50
I stopped a couple of years ago. My health has dramatically improved as a result. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #52
You need protein for your immune system to work properly, so I wouldn't want to see a large part of highplainsdem Apr 2020 #53
"complementary incomplete proteins" is a myth that has been debunked a long time ago milestogo Apr 2020 #55
What hasn't been debunked is that the body doesn't store amino acids. The myth is that a typical highplainsdem Apr 2020 #57
Sure. sinkingfeeling Apr 2020 #54
Haven't eaten meat for 25 years. MoonRiver Apr 2020 #56
Honestly, no. tritsofme Apr 2020 #60
I'm Doing Keto AnnieBW Apr 2020 #62
We bought a small deep freeze EllieBC Apr 2020 #66
I could but not my kids. EllieBC Apr 2020 #65

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
1. I don't eat much meat as it is and use to be a Vegetarian.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:29 PM
Apr 2020

No big deal to sacrifice for the safety of the workers and wish I could do more.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
64. I'm in the same boat.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

The things I would have to give up are canned tuna, sardines and oysters. I'd be happy to do so.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
3. Yes
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:32 PM
Apr 2020

But it'll be hard since I am diabetic.
But there has to be diabetic vegetarians I could learn from somewhere.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
7. I think exceptions can be made in cases like this
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:36 PM
Apr 2020

but if most who don't need to eat meat stop doing it then that would be enough to affect their business and they would made some serious changes to keep employees safe.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
11. I agree with you
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:40 PM
Apr 2020

I don't eat a lot of meat just enough to balance out the carbs and keep my sugar low.A pack of chicken lasts me a good while.

LeftInTX

(25,205 posts)
5. Yes, but I need protein
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:35 PM
Apr 2020

As long as I can do dairy, eggs and/or fish (tuna??)

Beans won't cut it for me. (Too starchy)

 

Rae

(84 posts)
8. What is going to replace it?
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:37 PM
Apr 2020

Meat accounts for a large portion of the American diet. How will that gap be filled? Can producers of those replacements ramp up and meet demand? Other food suppliers and industries are facing their own challenges right now.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
12. beans , mushrooms beyond meat , impossible burgers etc . And this is not meant to be permanent
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:44 PM
Apr 2020

but more as a boycott because they are putting workers at risk.

 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
63. And super processed
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Apr 2020

I could be wrong but I don't believe they are very healthy.


People could just start buying meat from local ethically and morally superior farms.

Chainfire

(17,519 posts)
10. I am a meat eater
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:40 PM
Apr 2020

But I don't think I would have a taste for meat that workers die to produce.

I can do without.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
16. I love meat but yes I would quit.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

If other meat eaters did also it would be easier. I would have people to complain to who felt my pain.

Wouldn't eating nuts help?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. I just bought 1/4 a beef from a local farmer, grass fed
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:15 PM
Apr 2020

I rarely buy commercial meat, local is the way to go.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. I could easily cut back to almost nothing. But would need cheese, beans/legumes and occasionally
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 10:21 PM
Apr 2020

some seafood. In addition to a lot of vegetables, fruits and grains.

Igel

(35,293 posts)
28. Only if every single meat and poultry packer/processer got infected.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

And the workers included a fair number of people over 65.

If they're almost all under 50, even if every one was infected it wouldn't get anywhere near 1000.

But not every one will catch it. We've pretty much heard of the plants that have had it spread. Of the > 100 that's a small number.

Plus in 3 weeks the spate of infections will have passed. It's not a permanent shut down, however much some preachers of righteousness may want it to be.

Stop eating meat, you put a lot of immigrants out of a job. Compel people to stop eating meat, and you're engaging in prohibition and imposing lifestyle choices on others, which amounts to imposing morality.

meadowlander

(4,393 posts)
29. Ethical sourcing.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

I've gotten to 30-50% of my meals vegetarian but I get anemia really easily and don't digest iron tablets well so find it really hard to go full veggie. I made it for about 3-4 months once but got really ill. And my whole world revolves around cheese so can't even imagine going vegan.

I can see boycotting individual plants/producers that don't give a shit about the welfare of either their workers or the animals though.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
32. I try to avoid factory farmed meat.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:18 PM
Apr 2020

It’s expensive so I end up eating less. But there is a farm store in Ocoee Florida that sells local and small producer meat. We but lots of our meat from them.

We get our eggs from a family that has a glasses front fridge in their front yard in a semi rural area and sell on the honor system. Money in a lock box and help yourself. All different colors and delicious. They only ask 3$ a dozen. I usually leave 5.

Of course I have a freezer full of Fish we caught and venison I killed. The healthiest and, in my opinion, best tasting available.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,782 posts)
33. I need meat in my diet...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:37 PM
Apr 2020

I am Gluten and Lactose intolerant.

I have to avoid all Legumes (beans) , corn and soy based foods. Potatoes ferment in my gut.

In other words, I am a dietary mess.

womanofthehills

(8,687 posts)
34. I only eat local grass fed beef from ranchers I know
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:57 PM
Apr 2020

I will not eat supermarket beef. I eat lots of vegetables but could not be a vegetarian.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
35. I'm disgusted with my factory farm meat eating habits.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 11:57 PM
Apr 2020

I've moved on to wild game, plentiful here, and dairy. I'm hoping not to eat a tortured animal ever again. So the answer is an enthusiastic "yes!"

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
40. I'm appealing to the humanitarian impulse, not caring for animals.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:05 AM
Apr 2020

If people refuse to buy tshirts made by slave labor, why not refuse to buy meat processed by workers who are risking their lives?

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
39. do we feel the same about all production facilities?
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 01:00 AM
Apr 2020

meat processing is fairly labor intensive .. but they are hardly alone. Amazon warehouses? Almost any type of assembly line? Big box stores. Schools, airlines, public transit ... All huge sources for potential transmission. Why would meat processing stand alone as something that we should boycott?

Walmart, Amazon, Target and FedEx employees are planning on some type of collective strike action .. what should our response be there?

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
46. I have enough meat frozen to last me quite a while
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:21 AM
Apr 2020

So no, I won't stop eating it. But I probably won't need to buy any for a long time. When I do, if the pandemic is still a problem I will buy it at farmers markets if possible.

hunter

(38,309 posts)
47. Shutting down the meat factories wouldn't have a big impact on my diet.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:25 AM
Apr 2020

I'd have to find waffle and cake recipes that don't use eggs or milk. (Chickens and dairy cows get sold as meat when they stop producing.)

My wife is vegetarian, I'm mostly vegetarian.

It wouldn't be so easy for our dogs. I don't expect them to be vegetarians. They currently eat Kirkland brand dry food from Costco.

Chellee

(2,092 posts)
61. You're welcome!
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:49 AM
Apr 2020

I use the site a lot when I have an ingredient that needs to be used up and I don't know what to make with it. But sometimes it's fun to just browse all the things.

Response to milestogo (Original post)

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
50. Once people stop eating meat, they rarely (no pun) go back to previous meat consumption levels
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:36 AM
Apr 2020

Lots will go back, but not at the same rate. They know you feel physically and mentally better with lower meat consumption.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
52. I stopped a couple of years ago. My health has dramatically improved as a result.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:41 AM
Apr 2020

Lost my headaches, sleep apnea, joint pain, allergies, etc.

highplainsdem

(48,957 posts)
53. You need protein for your immune system to work properly, so I wouldn't want to see a large part of
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 09:46 AM
Apr 2020

the population suddenly deprived of their main source of complete protein in a pandemic.

Vegetarians can eat a healthy diet, but I've known some who thought that just eliminating meat and leaving everything else the same in their typical American diet would be healthy, and it wasn't, for them.

Most people suddenly deprived of meat would have no idea how to combine complementary incomplete proteins, to make up for the loss of complete proteins.

The meat packing plants do need to change how they work, to protect their workers much more.

highplainsdem

(48,957 posts)
57. What hasn't been debunked is that the body doesn't store amino acids. The myth is that a typical
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:15 AM
Apr 2020

vegetarian diet can always be expected to provide enough of the right incomplete proteins, before they're eliminated, for complete proteins to be formed.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
56. Haven't eaten meat for 25 years.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:14 AM
Apr 2020

People would be much healthier if they gave it up. And as a bonus they would save a lot of workers' lives.

AnnieBW

(10,421 posts)
62. I'm Doing Keto
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:51 AM
Apr 2020

I really can't stop eating meat because it's necessary for the keto diet. I do, however, have enough meat in my deep freezer to get us by for a few weeks without buying more.

EllieBC

(3,010 posts)
66. We bought a small deep freeze
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:56 AM
Apr 2020

and put it out on the covered balcony a couple of weeks ago. And filled it. Thank goodness because meat has gone way up in price here in the last couple of weeks.

As for keto a friend of mine’s husband does it for his migraines and it has helped immensely!

EllieBC

(3,010 posts)
65. I could but not my kids.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:54 AM
Apr 2020

There’s no way they will eat beans of any sort. Neither will my husband. So it would be just me.

And milk, cheese, and yogurt are a lot of their diet too.

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