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LeftInTX

(25,287 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 02:36 AM Apr 2020

How does India, a country of 1.3 billion people, have around 1,000 coronavirus deaths?

Very interesting article. It sounds like things are really working in India. Well, you know how they always say negative things about India? Take this all the way to the bank Trump!

(In India only 4% of tests are positive. There is no general increase in deaths from nonspecific causes. The United States is average 17% positive.)

As of Tuesday, India had reported 31,360 coronavirus cases and 1,008 deaths, or about 0.76 deaths per million. Compare that to the United States, where the number of deaths per million is more than 175.

Some experts say that India's relatively positive numbers suggest the country's nationwide lockdown to halt the spread of Covid-19 could be working -- for now."India didn't wait for the problem to escalate," India's Prime Minister Narendra Modi said on April 14, as he extended the country's 21-day nationwide lockdown until May 3. "Instead, as soon as the problem appeared, we tried to stop it by making swift decisions. I can't imagine what the situation would have been had such quick decisions not been taken."

But the reality behind India's numbers is more complicated -- and experts caution that it is too early for India to congratulate itself.
"At least in this round, it appears that the virus has not been able to damage as much as been feared," Srinath Reddy, the president of the Public Health Foundation of India, a non-profit that works on training, research and policy development. "I don't think we can say that we have completely closed the book on this."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/28/india/india-coronavirus-outbreak-explained-intl-hnk/index.html
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How does India, a country of 1.3 billion people, have around 1,000 coronavirus deaths? (Original Post) LeftInTX Apr 2020 OP
It's a mystery. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #1
It arrived there later than here. Bucky Apr 2020 #2
No real signs of any of that at the moment. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #16
India and China either can't count or won't count correctly. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #3
You think U.S. numbers are correct? dpibel Apr 2020 #9
No, the US numbers are not correct. Neither are India's or China's Caliman73 Apr 2020 #14
No. But China and India are ridiculously off. Funtatlaguy Apr 2020 #15
In poor areas when older people die or those who have been ill they are unlikely to be seen JI7 Apr 2020 #4
Reported is the keyword. patricia92243 Apr 2020 #5
Simple: because they have much more than 1,000 obamanut2012 Apr 2020 #6
I don't think India gets many Chinese tourists, the hot virus spreaders never landed there early Baclava Apr 2020 #7
Amazing!! Maxheader Apr 2020 #8
BCG Vaccine and younger population JCMach1 Apr 2020 #10
Glad I have the BCG vaccine. roamer65 Apr 2020 #12
There was an article in Newsweek this week talking about BCG JCMach1 Apr 2020 #13
A big part of this is simple Geography: blitzen Apr 2020 #11
India is in the Northern Hemisphere. former9thward Apr 2020 #18
I know that. Look at the Map though. You'll see... blitzen Apr 2020 #19
They dont. Next question. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #17

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
2. It arrived there later than here.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:10 AM
Apr 2020

I think India may be in for a difficult ride in the couple of months ahead. I do know that their population is on average less mobile than ours is. That's an important factor working in their favor

However another possibility is that they don't have adequate numbers of testing kits. Recent studies show that 1 out of 8 New York staters have had the virus, one out of 5 people in NYC have had it,and as many as 80% people in the Bronx have gotten the virus. But only a fraction of them have gotten sick or even been tested.

So before we share a sigh of relief that India is dodging this bullet, we might need to wait to see what the summer holds for them.

dpibel

(2,831 posts)
9. You think U.S. numbers are correct?
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 10:34 AM
Apr 2020

Check out Florida and Texas, just for starters.

Check out excess deaths.

Check out the bit of antibody testing that's happened so far.

Caliman73

(11,736 posts)
14. No, the US numbers are not correct. Neither are India's or China's
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:00 PM
Apr 2020

Each country has a strongman or wannabe strongman at the helm of the country, therefore in each of the countries that actual count is not accurate.

There is no way that a country as densely populated as India can have 1000 deaths related to COVID-19.

In the US, the deaths are being counted by state, county, and local municipalities and being reported nationally. Trump is likely pressuring and making decisions to keep those numbers down. You can bet that Modi and Xi are also pressing authorities to keep the numbers down.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
4. In poor areas when older people die or those who have been ill they are unlikely to be seen
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:41 AM
Apr 2020

by any medical personnel. The person dies and the family cremates/bury them . And they most likely die at home.

They aren't testing enough people. So an older person that died of covid or a person who was dealing with serious illness that died from getting covid will not be counted in the poor areas.

The population is younger compared to the countries that have been hit badly and if they are less affected this is probably the biggest reason.





 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. I don't think India gets many Chinese tourists, the hot virus spreaders never landed there early
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 06:54 AM
Apr 2020

Thats my take, they never got infected early during Chinese New Year

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
8. Amazing!!
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 07:07 AM
Apr 2020

Every success story I've read is about strict soc. distance and enforcement..

Either by the people or the authorities..

And they're talking here about going back to work...Tough decisions for

our leaders..trying to balance between another, worse wave of corona. And

people screaming to get back to work..In an election year...

JCMach1

(27,556 posts)
13. There was an article in Newsweek this week talking about BCG
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:41 PM
Apr 2020

Some pretty serious looks at this coming out soon...

My wife and son have BCG... I don't

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
11. A big part of this is simple Geography:
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 11:32 AM
Apr 2020

Latitude and Climate.

Humidity is a major deterrent to the spread of viruses.

And this has for the most part been a Northern Hemisphere event so far, since we were in winter when it started.

See the Johns Hopkins map. There is a reason why India's region is called South Asia.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

former9thward

(31,996 posts)
18. India is in the Northern Hemisphere.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

But it is hot and humid most of the year and I agree this is what is keeping the virus from making a show. That and a young population which is not affected by it.

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
19. I know that. Look at the Map though. You'll see...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 07:41 PM
Apr 2020

a very clear difference between North and South, and you'll see that the southern parts of the Northern Hemisphere have been hit much less hard. Draw a latitude line through the middle of India and you'll see what I mean. And yes, the humidity for sure.

I'm referring to the Johns Hopkins map, where the larger circles indicate more cases. It's a very top heavy map--the farther north (until you get well north of the 45th parallel), the larger the circles.

Of course, this imbalance is also in part due to variations in population density.

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