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underpants

(182,733 posts)
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:50 PM Apr 2020

Now we're talking! "Operation Warp Speed"

Project targets enough doses for most Americans by January
Fauci has said vaccine will take 12 to 18 months to develop

The Trump administration is organizing a Manhattan Project-style effort to drastically cut the time needed to develop a coronavirus vaccine, with a goal of making enough doses for most Americans by year’s end.

Called “Operation Warp Speed,” the program will pull together private pharmaceutical companies, government agencies and the military to try to cut the development time for a vaccine by as much as eight months, according to two people familiar with the matter.

As part of the arrangement, taxpayers will shoulder much of the financial risk that vaccine candidates may fail, instead of drug companies.

The project will cost billions of dollars, one of the people said. And it will almost certainly result in significant waste by making inoculations at scale before knowing if they’ll be safe and effective -- meaning that vaccines that fail will be useless. But it could mean having doses of vaccine available for the American public by the end of this year, instead of by next summer.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-29/trump-s-operation-warp-speed-aims-to-rush-coronavirus-vaccine

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Now we're talking! "Operation Warp Speed" (Original Post) underpants Apr 2020 OP
This vaccine, produced by the administration of Donnie Bodybags, will either be ineffective Squinch Apr 2020 #1
12 to 18 months... agingdem Apr 2020 #4
The purpose of a vaccine is not to suppress symptoms. There are treatments being Squinch Apr 2020 #6
if it's an anti viral which I think it is agingdem Apr 2020 #10
And THAT'S why we have a Space Force. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #2
Pew pew underpants Apr 2020 #25
Life imitates art: "The Man in the High Castle." NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2020 #31
wtf does this mean dweller Apr 2020 #3
We're asking companies to build a product that there is no verified business case for yet. SharonAnn Apr 2020 #11
Companies who make vaccines have long been indemnified by the govt. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #28
As I read it, the commercial-scale manufacturing may begin before efficacy is known. GopherGal Apr 2020 #29
'Warp Speed'??? Trump promises, goals, claims, effectiveness don't make any speed, empedocles Apr 2020 #5
He's a warped speed freak. Tanuki Apr 2020 #32
Is bleach an ingredient in this vaccine? guillaumeb Apr 2020 #7
Only In The Failed Vaccines ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #20
Yeah but you can't tell it. underpants Apr 2020 #27
Words cannot express how impressed I am. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #30
Another of Donnie Bodybags's investment companies is about to get real rich, I warrant. Squinch Apr 2020 #8
Privatize the profits but socialize the risks? SoonerPride Apr 2020 #9
Just another scam for Trump & his brat children to steal a bunch of these...... Elwood P Dowd Apr 2020 #12
this will only work qazplm135 Apr 2020 #13
It's clearly a gimmick, a cynical ploy gratuitous Apr 2020 #14
well we have to go to plaid qazplm135 Apr 2020 #17
But is that effective if they've gone to plaid? csziggy Apr 2020 #19
Dr. Fauci says... DrToast Apr 2020 #21
the nerd in me is offended qazplm135 Apr 2020 #22
OK, so we will use this scene to demonstrate how the vaccine will work on coronavirus csziggy Apr 2020 #24
Yes! Maximum! underpants Apr 2020 #26
Republicans really cut red tape ha? pwb Apr 2020 #15
I don't mind these proposals. HOWEVER... Caliman73 Apr 2020 #16
I believe the CARES act already provided funding for vaccines DrToast Apr 2020 #18
I'm confident it will be executed just as competently and responsibly tanyev Apr 2020 #23

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
1. This vaccine, produced by the administration of Donnie Bodybags, will either be ineffective
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 03:56 PM
Apr 2020

or cause serious and lasting health issues.

I won't be in the first wave to take it.

agingdem

(7,834 posts)
4. 12 to 18 months...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:02 PM
Apr 2020

not tomorrow or next week or next month..a year to a year and a half away and there's no guarantee the virus will not mutate...this is about suppressing the symptoms once you get it...like tamiflu...it will not eradicate it...that science takes years

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
6. The purpose of a vaccine is not to suppress symptoms. There are treatments being
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:05 PM
Apr 2020

studied for their ability to suppress symptoms. A vaccine is to eradicate the disease.

That DOES take years. That's why I am certain that this administration will screw it up and kill people in the process.

agingdem

(7,834 posts)
10. if it's an anti viral which I think it is
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:11 PM
Apr 2020

it will tamp down symptoms much like HIV anti viral meds...and you're right...they will screw it up big time...they will deny those they deem unworthy the so-called vaccine..and in the process harm/kill the first wave of guinea pigs

underpants

(182,733 posts)
25. Pew pew
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 06:09 PM
Apr 2020

Space Force can get the vaccine from one part of the earth to a whole other part of the earth by going AROUND....in space!!

Huh? Pretty impressive amiright?

dweller

(23,621 posts)
3. wtf does this mean
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:01 PM
Apr 2020

As part of the arrangement, taxpayers will shoulder much of the financial risk that vaccine candidates may fail, instead of drug companies.



✌🏼

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
11. We're asking companies to build a product that there is no verified business case for yet.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:16 PM
Apr 2020

They won't take the risk of a huge expense if there's no verified business case for it.

I wouldn't either. If you want my company to do something like that, pay me to do it. Otherwise, I'll invest where there is a verified business case for it.

GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
29. As I read it, the commercial-scale manufacturing may begin before efficacy is known.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 08:32 PM
Apr 2020

Basically, I think the full-scale manufacturing is to be done in parallel with the testing. If the result of the trials is that it's good, there will be doses available for the public right away. If it's not efficacious, the material already manufactured will be trash and the money spent manufacturing it wasted.

Literally buying time, paying for the manufacture of commercial scale quantities of the candidate vaccine "at risk" before completion of the efficacy trial.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. 'Warp Speed'??? Trump promises, goals, claims, effectiveness don't make any speed,
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:03 PM
Apr 2020

or any forward progress!!!

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
14. It's clearly a gimmick, a cynical ploy
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:59 PM
Apr 2020

If the administration was serious, this would be Operation Ludicrous Speed!

Caliman73

(11,727 posts)
16. I don't mind these proposals. HOWEVER...
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:01 PM
Apr 2020

We need to develop a vaccine and effective treatment. I don't mind clearing obstacles or high costs, even if taxpayers are involved. The problem I have with the proposals are that Trump and his administration do not have a plan and their goal is rarely the benefit of the American people. If we do this "warp speed" thing, there have to be CLEAR rules that the product is for the benefit of the people and the property of the people. There should not be any profit for private companies and the vaccine should be "paid for" meaning that the tax dollars we invested should make the vaccine completely free to all of us.

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
23. I'm confident it will be executed just as competently and responsibly
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:45 PM
Apr 2020

as everything else they’ve done.

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