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About those meat packing plants (Original Post) CatWoman Apr 2020 OP
No. The virus needs a live host. Plus cooking meat destroys viruses. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #1
The meat itself should be OK as long as it is cooked, packaging may not be. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #2
It's a ham-demic Mendocino Apr 2020 #3
I think coronavirus is considered a respiratory disease. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2020 #4
Doctor Was Right ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #6
Heat, Cat ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #5
thanks Prof CatWoman Apr 2020 #7
My Wife's Leaning That Way ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #8

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. No. The virus needs a live host. Plus cooking meat destroys viruses.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:06 PM
Apr 2020

The meat would be safe.

The workers, not so much.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
4. I think coronavirus is considered a respiratory disease.
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:38 PM
Apr 2020

I heard a doctor say that if it is ingested, the stomach acids will kill the virus becasue it has a relatively fragile outer shell, which is made primarily of fatty material.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
6. Doctor Was Right
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:49 PM
Apr 2020

Labile chlorine & viruses don't play well together. Protein denatures in a few seconds in strong HCl.
The lipid can't protect it, because the chlorine acylizes the chains on the backbone of the lipids.
It becomes more fluid and falls away. Then the protein is exposed.
There would never be a concentration limit because there's a LOT of available reactive chlorine in the stomach.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
5. Heat, Cat
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 04:44 PM
Apr 2020

The virus denatures at 135F, in 5- 10 minutes. Damage to the virus is done almost the whole time, but just a lump of molecules in 10.
More importantly, we don't cook at 135F.
The denaturation is a first order reaction. (Some decomposition reactions are zero order)
These type reactions double in rate every 10 degrees C.
135F is around 57C. We cook meat at 400, let's say. That's around 204C.
So the complete denaturation is roughly 10x faster.
Cooking completely destroys the virus in a minute or less (once the surface of the meat is at temperature), and that is way faster than it takes to cook, even if you like it medium rare.
Cooking is the solution to most biological pathogens.

CatWoman

(79,295 posts)
7. thanks Prof
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:04 PM
Apr 2020

but I'm still considering going vegetarian.

Oh wait -- not too long ago it was lettuce killing people

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
8. My Wife's Leaning That Way
Wed Apr 29, 2020, 05:10 PM
Apr 2020

And she makes a killer melanzana parmiggiana already! (Eggplant parmesan)
And I love grilling vegetables.
We might be headed that way too.
And don't worry about the lettuce.
With PINO's immigration ban, there won't be anybody to pick it!

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