Why aren't the flags at half staff?

[rzemanfl]

They were flown at half staff when Sonny Bono died. Why, with over 60,000 dead, are they at full staff now FFS? Congress should take this step, Drumpf never will. Repukes could not vote against such a measure IMHO.

[brokephibroke]

1. Until the carrot colored clown is gone

The flags should be flown upside down.

[SheltieLover]

4. Absolutely!

[Alacritous Crier]

11. +1

[ProfessorGAC]

2. Because It's Just People Dying

The people making that decision don't care about 60k people dead.
That's pretty obvious and I think we've concluded that long ago!

[rzemanfl]

7. I am suggesting Congress take action.

Drumpf cares not a wit about anyone but himself. The only way Republicans could vote against such a bill would be to wrap themselves in the flag, that is getting really old and is no longer credible. Soon everyone will know somebody who died from this plague and a vote against some form of recognition will be a horrible stain on the record of anyone who votes against it.

[jimfields33]

17. Congress is at home and just extended stay at home

They can’t vote from home so how do you figure they can do this????

[rzemanfl]

18. I thought they were coming back per Morning Joke today. n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

20. You've Got 50% That Are From The Same Pod, Though

You've got senators who want old people to suck it up & die. What action do you think those drones would take?

[rzemanfl]

21. I thiink it's a bill that can't lose. It doesn't cost anything and will give the

Repukes the appearance of a semblance of compassion. Or, they can get all ballsy and flag-waving, which will only sell to the Trumpist minority.

[ProfessorGAC]

23. I'm Good With It

I just don't have confidence they'll do it.
BTW: went to big box store in the town 18 miles west today.
The outdoors & garden store across the highway has one of those huge flags in front.
It was at half-mast! The store decided for themselves, I guess.

[rzemanfl]

24. Good for them. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Because His Lardship doesn't want to draw attention to the fact

that people are dying and will continue to do so. It makes him look bad.

[IcyPeas]

31. exactly

everything is just swept under the rug like it never happened. like children in cages.

63,000+ human beings have died in a matter of months and to listen to trump and kushner everything gonna be coming up roses any day now.

[dhol82]

5. They are in New York.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/amid-ongoing-covid-19-pandemic-governor-cuomo-directs-flags-be-flown-half-mast-honor-those-we

[rzemanfl]

8. I did not know that. Thank you. n/t

[Mariana]

6. How long do you think they should be at half staff?

Just curious what you would decide, if it was up to you.

[rzemanfl]

12. One day a month on the anniversary of the first U.S. death. n/t

[Steelrolled]

13. That was my thought as well.

I think there will be a half-staff period, when this thing comes to a close, such that we can END the half staff period.

[LTG]

9. According to the US flag code

The President can order the flag to fly at half staff by Proclamation, as may state and territorial governors, as well as the mayor of Washington DC. Congress is not mentioned. They could pass a resolution conveying the sense of Congress that the president do so.

The Democrat governors should get together and all do it at the same time. Draw a contrast on valuing the lives of Americans.

[rzemanfl]

14. I think there can be a law as well.

I'm quite sure there is a law regarding deaths of sitting members of Congress, hence Sonny Bono.

[LTG]

16. The Code does specify or suggest some individuals

“ . . . By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, or the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia and members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia.

The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress . . .”

There are also specific days:

“May 15 — Peace Officers Memorial Day: half-staff from sunrise to sunset

Last Monday in May — Memorial Day: the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon

September 11 — Patriot Day: half-staff from sunrise to sunset

Sunday, usually of week in which October 9th falls — Fire Prevention Week: half-staff from sunrise to sunset.

December 7 — National Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day:
half-staff from sunrise to sunset“

[rzemanfl]

19. In the United States Code "shall" means shall. At least it did until these

dumbfucks took office. I say pass it and let Barr and Drumpf try to fight it.

[dalton99a]

10. Republicans don't care. None of them.

[rzemanfl]

25. Well, we could get a receipt for that. n/t

[procon]

15. Good question.

Trump had to be shamed into lowering the flag for John McCain.

Twenty people died at a Wal-Mart in El Paso, Texas, but Trump went golfing. Finally, later 7in the day, someone must have cajoled Trump into lowering the flag.

If he lowers the flag to honor the victims of the corona virus, it would look like an indictment of his incompetent response.

[rzemanfl]

22. "[A]n indictment of his incompetent response." That's exactly what I had in mind. n/t

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[Hortensis]

26. Sonny Bono? Where? Palm Springs?

[rzemanfl]

28. All over, he was in Congress when he skied into that tree.

The section of the flag code is above in one of the responses. From LTG #16.

[Hortensis]

30. Oh, for heavens' sake. I'd forgotten he was in congress and

never knew flags were dropped nationally if one of them knocked off.

[rzemanfl]

32. I said that had anyone told me in 1967 they would fly the flags at half-staff

when Sonny Bono died I would have told them they were crazy.

[malaise]

27. You know what's really sad

This fucker thinks he can move on as if nothing happened - as if his response was a massive success.
There is no moving on after 61,000 plus deaths and over 1,000,000 people are suffering from this virus.

[rzemanfl]

29. Nope, not the way he screwed up the response. n/t