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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is trying to sell the story that the pandemic is all but over.
That, however, won't wash. People will know better than that. Local media will continue to cover the COVID-19 story as it affects local communities, and the national media will continue to cover it, as well.
Only FOX News and Trump's moron base will believe him.
Trump is trying to "wash his hands" of this thing.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)That's the reason we're not doing extensive testing, really. The federal government, led by Trump, doesn't want those numbers out there. Trump doesn't want real statistics on the disease, because they would hurt him politically.
Here's the thing, though: Trump is wrong about the entire thing. The truth will destroy him, as his policies lead to a rising death toll for the disease.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Magoo48
(4,708 posts)With a few states reporting fairly honestly, its easy to calculate who is full of shit. That said, real stupid is gonna remain really stupid.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Takket
(21,563 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)RKP5637
(67,107 posts)denem
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RKP5637
(67,107 posts)denem
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lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)EarnestPutz
(2,120 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Goes down so smoothly.
But my favorite disinfectant so far is ethanol. I like the side-effects.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)Initech
(100,068 posts)Now to haul ass to Lollapalooza!
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)He thinks he can blow smoke (and light) up people's arses. He can't. The truth will out, as more and more people experience the grief of losing someone they love to the virus.
He's taking a risky gamble, and it's one with the odds heavily against him.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Maeve
(42,282 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I don't know what, though.
hatrack
(59,584 posts)Things go BOOM on the tee-vee as we blow up Teh Evul real goodlike!!
Take that, terrorist/socialist/communist/libtard/feminazi!
Mariana
(14,856 posts)https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-ordering-selected-reserve-armed-forces-active-duty/
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)You can't ignore 75,000 dead
You can't ignore 100,000 dead
You can't ignore 150,000 dead
You can't ignore 250,000 dead
The bodies will pile up by election day and there is nowhere to hide them
Pretending they don't exist won't work.
mopinko
(70,090 posts)maxrandb
(15,324 posts)That this fucking moron should even be within 1,000,000,000 miles of the oval office.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)And, if people stop doing all the things they've been doing to protect themselves and others, the death toll will increase at an accelerating rate. It slowed down, due to all of the cautionary actions. If those stop, it will rapidly increase.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)He is rearview mirroring it. Kushner more or less declared mission accomplished. And we all know how that worked out when Shrub did it.
More death. Years and years of bad. The "mission" was not completed. Nothing of value was accomplished. Just a bullshit, feel-good phrase meant to shape a narrative.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Brother Mythos
(1,442 posts)The same goes for those who won't believe it, but will say that they do.
world wide wally
(21,742 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)There are several states with Governors who will do whatever he wants. Others will never do what he wants.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)Catching the virus is not an immediate threat to anyone because you won't know you're sick for a week!!
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)COVID-19 doesn't kill most people who catch it. Just a small percentage. However, its impact is huge, since everyone will soon know someone who died from it. Trump doesn't recognize that factor, because he cares for nobody but himself. A lot of powerful people have that blind spot.
A lot of people are being very careful about following guidelines designed to protect themselves. Trump's claque, however, eschews such precautions. Because of that, they will be among the first to fall. Trump is going to learn that his arrogance and lack of concern is going to kill a higher percentage of his supporters than those who do not support him.
Trump is a stupid, stupid man.
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)...As you said..." it won't wash, .... "people know better than that"
Trump's selling days are over. No one will buy anything or any ideas from him. Trump has set a standard for #1 Liar, that will never be surpassed. Trump can try, but his career as a salesman is over. (except to some very, very stupid people, and they will buy anything from anyone)
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)his con artistry ever worked only on a certain percentage of the population--those susceptible to hucksters or who for whatever reason wanted to believe his B.S.
Now he's faced with trying to con the entire electorate after they've seen his incompetence and malfeasance. Won't work in a fair election--his only hope is that the GOPee working with putin manage to steal enough votes.
IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)Interesting to see how they spin it hitting the red states that opened earliest.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Problem is that this disease will have an impact on a large segment of the population by the time a vaccine or truly effective treatments are widely available.
On a local basis, it will be news everywhere. That will make it news nationally, as well, as more and more people keep dying.
Trump is misreading this and doing so very badly. He thinks everything is business as usual, when it's really very, very unusual indeed. COVID-19 is a global game-changer, and Trump will not see the changes coming, as usual.
c-rational
(2,592 posts)demanding answers (the newscasters last night did not say they were out for blood yet). The Dumpster tried to play this penny wise and pound foolish, i.e. no testing hoping it would go away. As we learn more about how the rest of this world dealt with the virus, my hope is Americans will also demand answers as to how the greatest country on the planet got caught so flatfooted.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)We don't react as quickly as smaller nations do. There's a lag. However, we're about to come up against reality hard pretty soon. It won't be pretty for those currently in power, I suspect.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)news of additional outbreaks will be vigorously suppressed - especially in swing states like Texas, Florida, Georgia and Arizona. If an outbreak happens in a blue state and/or a state with a republican governor (Hogan in MD), Trump and the RW echo chamber will blast them for doing a lousy job.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I truly don't. I'm sure that will be tried, but it will fail.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)not be reported or investigated in Florida. Some newspapers are trying to dig into the story, but I'm not aware of a mass rebellion from hospitals and other medical centers in Florida about this.
Then, DeSantis goes on air with Trump and brags about how well Florida is doing.
Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)Could see this coming a mile away. They're ready to claim victory when tens of thousands of Americans will die in the coming weeks at minimum.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)This is bigger than he recognizes. He might be able to fool himself, but we're out here living it.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Before long, everyone will know or be related to someone who has died or been very seriously ill with COVID-19.
That can't be covered up by anyone. Trump doesn't know that, though. He has zero empathy with anyone. He feels nothing.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)MineralMan
(146,288 posts)I haven't been out on the Interstates, though, since this started.
I have to go out shortly to gas up the car and pick up a couple of things. I'll see how things look while I'm out.
People are venturing out again, I think. They're getting fatigued with the isolation. Here in Minnesota, we're sort of used to that in the winter months, but now that things are warming up, cabin fever is setting in.
I'm planning to keep right on isolating, though, and practicing maximum caution when I must venture out.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)I'm beginning to enter our third month. My student painters want to look at restarting our classes, but I don't think that even in masks and gloves it sounds like a good idea. They're mostly even older than me.
I need to see another month with no second wave to even consider it seriously. I'm not sure or little neck of the woods has even had a complete first wave, yet. We've had eight cases, no deaths in the first two months but we've had two more in the last week or so - one from the Burger King drive through window and one from the Starbucks counter.
We've been lucky and I am gambler enough to know there is no sort of luck one can count on.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Traffic is still very light here in the northeastern corner of St. Paul, MN. However going home, I saw a funeral procession traveling the opposite way. I didn't know they were having actual funerals here, but I counted about 25 cars full of mourners. Not a good thing.
marble falls
(57,080 posts)iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)That's a 12-fold/1200% increase in the number of people who were on this earth in January and are no longer here.
Let that sink in.
(For 70 days - trump did nothing to mitigation the coronovirus)
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)Many areas that were slow to become infected are now heading for their peaks. It's way to early to start relaxing precautions, I believe.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)No amount (or lack) of media coverage will be able to stop that. When more and more people see less and less of their friends, family members, etc. getting sick with COVID and/or dying from it, they'll know that this is blowing over. Not before.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)The idiot is to stupid to realize the numbers are coming down BECAUSE we are closed down. Frankly, no matter what he says, I don 't see the North East opening anytime soon.
Skittles
(153,157 posts)with more people at home there is less crime and less traffic so why are there more sirens
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)pass by my house in a residential area of St. Paul in the past two weeks. That's way more than usual.
wiggs
(7,812 posts)Ukraine, Saudis, pandemic, caging of children, emoluments, incompetence, corruption, payoffs, treachery...they think, along with a fair number of americans, that none of this matters as along as they control the headlines, history books, narrative, campaign money, who votes and who doesn't, the DOJ, SCOTUS, senate, the reins (and reigns) of government, war footing, etc etc.
I don't doubt they have a plan...not that Trump has the ability to come up with something on his own but he has the world's oligarchs at his disposal as well as the Senate and its majority leader. And they have advisors even more dastardly than Karl Rove. They know how to use Trump's only talents: fluffing himself up without regard to the truth, avoiding shame, and pissing on everyone else.
If the GOP leaders really didn't think they will survive this I'm sure they would have bailed by now, publicly.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)Georgia, Florida, and Texas are going to be in a world of hurt. They didn't test, they are not ready to test for ant-bodies or ready to contact trace. Plus, 25% of Texans have no health insurance.
McKim
(2,412 posts)The Fed ordered 100K Body Bags recently and it shows they CAN plan ahead and they recognize the scale of the coming wave......this is all to get the stock market up so the very wealth can get in to recoup losses and then get out fast!
iluvtennis
(19,852 posts)BarbD
(1,192 posts)and moving the Faux conspiracy theories forward.